Nedavno sam imao priliku nazočiti jednom muslimanskom pogrebu. Bilo mi je čudno što nitko ne tuguje. Žene posebno.



http://www.bakije.com/zzalost.htm

Pa otkud onda ono silno naricanje i bacanje pred kamerama onih baba u Srebrenici?



Nisu muslimanke ili?

Je li čine haram?

O, Korrisniče, imam jedno pitanjce, pa molim lepo za odgovor:
Da li je polumesec i zvezda verski simbol u svim islamskim mezhebima? Jer, nešto nisam primetio da ga u Iranu koriste.

Ne bih rekao neki kažu da je to zbog Osmnlija ostalo, da se sultanu učinio polumjesec i i zvijezda kad je osvojio Konstantinopolis, neki kažu da je to arapsko slovo n, inače šije su slobodnije i slikaju jer za njih ne važe hadisi Buhari i Muslim oni imaju svoje druge, pa mogu slikati živu prirodu stavljati kao simbol.

Ma vala to i nije neki dokaz dobrog "Hrvatskog foruma" što ima više svih drugih neg Hrvata iz BiH , jer to odmah navodi na pomisao da to baš i nije toliko onda portal Hrvata iz BiH nego svih ovih drugih, što, kako kažeš, vole Hrvate... a i to oko ljubavi je veoma upitno, no dobro poratl je bez sumnje dobar i valja na njemu tražiti svoje mjesto pod suncem.

Islam je de facto mentalni cancer. Kemoterapija mu je kontinuirano razotkrivanje obmana i suzbijanje.

ne

nomadi preuzeli od istocnog rimskog carstva,kao i stosta drugog na sta su naisli

Jedan kratki info za drage forumaše. Malo ljudi to zna a činjenica je. Tolika da je jedan vrhovni učenjak i klerik za islam nespretno izletio da zna da muhammada nije krasila izvanredna hrabrost.

- Muhammad naime ni u jednoj bitki nije bio na čelu kolone i vodio svoje razbojnike.
- Bio je u svim bitkama na začelju sa nekoliko tjelohranitelja i dvostrukim (viteškim, ili kako se tada zvalo) prslukom (kao da je znao da ne postoji nikakav allah koji ga štiti i čuva, zar ne ?)

No da ne bi pomislili da je nevinašce, za zločine često nije potrebna hrabrost. Poslije je uredno zapovijedao tko će se zaklati, kome će se glava odrezati i koje od djevojaka (najljepše) idu njemu kao ropkinje za seks. I naravno jedna petina opljačkanog je bila njegova, iako nije ni bio dio bitke. Allah je velik i darežljiv indeed.

Ne treba to gledati crno bijelo.Izvorni islam je odigrao veliku ulogu u odvlačenju velikog broja arapa itd. od mnogoboštva ka monoteizmu.Srž učenja islama je jasna, a zašto i kako je došlo do devijacija, lijepo je pojašnjeno u dokumentarcu unutar ove teme...

Druga stvar koju hadiths svjedoče je ova:

- Muhammad je jako smrdio. Puno, puno iznad prosjeka ostalih u to vrijeme znojavih i neopranih ljudi. Puno više se znojio jer je imao neku bolest.
Svjedoci su govorili da u životu nisu sreli nikoga sa tako neugodnim mirisom. Toliko da ima jedan hadith koji kaže da si mogao hodati ulicom i po njegovom mirisu znati da je on prošao prije tebe. Zato je koristio potoke parfema da prikrije smrad. Muslimani vole reći da su to hadiths o njegovim parfemima, ali ateisti muslimani svjedoče da to nije ono što na arapskom piše, jasno se govori o smradu. Kuran na engleskom je preveden za kafire, zato je muslimanima i zabranjen za koristiti.

- Mimo toga imao je još jednu fizičku deformaciju. Zadnjih 20-ak godina njegovog života mu se tijelo izobličilo i oteklo. Opet hadiths svjedoče da ljudi nikad u životu nisu vidjeli nikoga sa tolikim šakama, stopalima i velikom glavom kao što je on imao. I opis čitave fizionomije glave odgovara toj bolesti. Uz to ide skoro obvezna impotencija.

Postoji jedna bolest koja ljude napada pod starost, u mladosti se ne ispoljava toliko. Zove se Acromegaly. Ljudi koji boluju od te bolesti izgledaju kao osobe na ovim fotografijama. Možda je to razlog zašto je muhammad zabranio slikanje portreta i izrade kipova. Da ga ljudi nje bi kroz to slavili onako kako ga se sjećaju.





Stari glumac iz James Bond filmova je imao tu istu bolest.

To nešto kao od članstva Hells Angels u članstvo Hells Satan. Kakvu ti korist od toga imaš ?

Nisi u pravu za srž islama. Mogao bi malo i pročitati o tome.

Naravno da sam u pravu.I pročitao sam puno toga.Monoteista će puno lakše prihvatiti Živog Boga od nekog tko štuje pacove i majmune...

"The Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam once met Abu Jahl on the road.
Abu Jahl said, ‘O Muhammad! I have not seen anyone more ugly than you.’ The sahaaba were infuriated on hearing this statement. Hazrath Umar Radi Allahu anhu sought the Beloved Prophet’s Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam permission to strike Abu Jahl. The beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam forbade him saying, ‘leave him alone for he has spoken the truth.’ This statement confused the sahaaba.
The Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam walked on and he met Hazrath Abu Bakr Siddique Radi Allahu anhu. Maulana Rumi Radi Allahu anhu says in the Mathnavi:
Abu Bakr Siddique Radi Allahu anhu saw the beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam and said:
O Sun of beauty and splendour
There is no beauty like you in the east or west
The beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam replied, ‘You also have spoken the truth, O Abu Bakr Radi Allahu anhu.’
The sahaaba asked ‘O Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam! You said both have spoken truthfully, but their statements are conflicting?’ The beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam said, ‘ I am a mirror, shaped by the Hand of Allah so both of them saw themselves in me.’
In reality Abu Jahl saw himself and Abu Bakr radi Allahu anhu saw himself so both their statements were true.
Mathnawi 2365-2371"

Znači ti vjeruješ da će muslimani prihvatiti Boga iz Biblije ? Jer taj Bog i allah nisu ni blizu isto.

Neće svi.Niti će se "spasiti" svi "kršćani" i "judaisti".

DObro Markane, opila te izborna pobjeda. Kad se otrijezniš onda ćemo o islamu.
Do tad pričitaj što je sve muhammad radio, jer je to taj "allah". To muslimani danas moraju oponašati, zapovijed, nema odstupanja.

Mene pobjede ne opijaju, ja sam profi

Nije bitan Muhamed. Tehnički, nije niti ključan u toj priči.

Bojim se onda da si na krivoj temi. Bez wishful thinking.

A kao mnogoboštvo je loše jer tako kažu monoteisti??

Da je arapsko mnogoboštvo bilo loše i da je Arape trebalo od njega odvući govore oni koji su poiptuno uništili mnogoboštvo a sve njikhovim hramovima i božanstvima , i gle čuda nema nijednog spisa o mnogobožačkim religijama Arapa niti odnosa mnogoboštva i islama zapisan od strane samih mnogobožaca.

Sva sreća pa se ima nešto podataka o hrišćanstvu i hrišćanima od tzv.mnogobožačke strane , i zato se može rekonstruisati pravi njihov život i delovanje , a ne one silne laži hrišćanskih pobednika koji su kao i muslimani uništili sve mnogobožačko.

Jest joe trebali su nastaviti zakopavati svoje kćerke.

Before Islam, women experienced limited rights, except those of high status. They were treated like slaves and were incessantly at the mercy of men. They were not considered human and had almost no rights at all. Women were not considered "worthy of prayer" and played no role in the religious aspect of life before Islam.[5] It is said that women were treated no different from “pet goats or sheep”.[5] Women could not make decisions based on their own beliefs, and had little control over their marriages. They were never bound by contract for marriage or custody of children and their consent was never sought. Women were seldom allowed to divorce their husbands and their view was not regarded for either a marriage or divorce.[6] If they got divorced, women were not legally allowed to go by their maiden name again.[6] They could not own or inherit property or objects, even if they were facing poverty or harsh living conditions.[7] Women were treated less like people and more like possessions of men. They, however, could be inherited and moved from home to home depending on the wants and needs of their husband and his family. Essentially, women were slaves to men and made no decisions on anything, whether it be something that directly impacted them or not. If their husband died, his son from a previous marriage was entitled to his wife if the son wanted her. The woman had no choice in the matter unless she was able to pay him for freedom, which was impossible in most cases.[7]

One of the most extraordinary practices that took place was that if a husband died, his son could inherit his wife (his own mother) to be his own wife. If the son of a deceased husband (his deceased father) did not want his wife (own mother), the woman was forced to leave her home and live in a hut for one year. The huts were kept dark with very poor air circulation. After one year, the woman was allowed to come out of the hut, and people were permitted to heave camel excrement at her. People in Mecca would blame her for refusing to sleep with her own son.[8]

In 586 AD women were acknowledged to be human.[9] Although this appears to be a change in the status of women in Arabia, they were only acknowledged as human with the sole purpose of serving men.[9] They were considered human, but were not given the same rights as men and were not treated equally. It was common for a new father to be outraged upon learning that his baby was a female. It was believed that girls ensured a bad omen and men thought that daughters would bring disgrace to the family.[7] Because baby girls were thought to be evil, many of them were sold or buried alive.[7]

Marriage Practices[edit]
In Pre-Islamic Arabia a variety of different marriage practices existed. The most common and recognized types of marriage at this time consisted of: marriage by agreement, marriage by capture, marriage by purchase, marriage by inheritance and "Mot'a" or temporary marriage.[10]

Marriage by Agreement[edit]
Marriage by agreement consisted of an agreement between a man and his future wife's family. This marriage could be within the tribe or between two families of different tribes. In the case that involved a man and woman of two different tribes, the woman would leave her family and permanently reside within her husband. The tribe of the husband then kept the couples children, unless a different arrangement was previously made which returned the children to their mother's tribe. In other cases women were forbidden from marrying outside of the tribe and had to either marry another member or a stranger who would agree to live within her tribe. The reason for inter-tribal marriages was to ensure the protection and possession of the children the couple would produce.[11] Women in inter-tribal marriages received more freedom and retained the right to dismiss or divorce their husbands at any time. The women had precise rituals they used to inform their husbands of their dismissal, such as this: "if they lived in a tent they turned it around, so that if the door faced east, it now faced west, and when the man saw this, he knew that he was dismissed and did not enter".[12]

Marriage by Capture[edit]
Marriage by capture, or "Ba'al", was a common pre-Islamic marriage practice. Most often taking place during times of war, marriage by capture occurred when women were taken captive by men from other tribes and placed on the slave market of Mecca. From the slave market these women were sold into marriage or slavery. In captive marriages men bought their wives and therefore had complete control over them. Women in these marriages had no freedom and were subjected to following their husbands orders and bearing his children. These women became their husbands property and had no rights to divorce or dismissal of her husband and therefore completely lost any previous freedom. Her husband had absolute authority over her, including the exclusive right to divorce. The husbands of these marriages were classified as their wife's lord or owner and had complete rights to his wife and her actions.[11]

Marriage by Purchase[edit]
Marriage by purchase was a more traditional marriage practice. These marriages consisted of a woman's family paying a man "Mahr", or a dowry, to marry their daughter. The dowry usually consisted of items like camels and horses.[10] Women in purchase marriages faced the same oppression as the women who were forced into marriages by capture. This practice may have led to a decrease in female infanticide due to the profit a family could incur for selling their daughter. Women in these marriages were subject to their husbands control and had very little rights or freedom of their own.[11]

Marriage by Inheritance[edit]
Marriage by inheritance,"a widespread custom throughout Arabia, including Medina and Mecca".This practice involved the possession of a deceased man's wives (When a man died, his son inherited all his wives except his own mother) being passed down to his son. In such a case, the son has several different options. He could keep them as his wive, arrange a marriage by purchase for them to enter into from which he would receive a dowry for them, or he could simply dismiss them. In these cases, as in the majority of marriage practices at this time, the woman had little or no rights and was subjected to follow the orders or her inheritor.[11]

". I have been sent on my Prophetic Mission to obliterate polytheism and idol-worship.

2. Goodness to parents occupies the top-most place in my message.

3. According to my sacred law, killing of children due to fear of poverty is the worst possible deed.

4. I have been appointed to restrain human beings from doing bad deeds and to keep them away from every uncleanliness, whether it be open or hidden.

5. My law provides that man-slaughter and bloodshed, without just cause, are absolutely forbidden.

6. Misappropriation of property belonging to orphans is prohibited.

7. My law is based on justice. Hence, according to it, selling under-weight is unlawful.

8. I do not charge anyone with more than he can bear.

9. The tongue and speech of man, which are a resplendent mirror reflecting his mentality, should be utilised in support of truth and reality and a person should speak nothing but the truth, even though it may cause him loss.

10. Be true to the covenants which you have made with Allah. This has been ordained by your Lord and it is essential for you to follow it.4

When the birth of a girl was announced to one of them, his face grew dark and he apparently swallowed his anger. Because of the bad news he hid himself from his kinsmen and did not know whether he should keep the new-born with disgrace or bury her under dust? How ill they judge? (Surah al-Nahl, 16:60).