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U maloj i nekad mirnoj općini (18.000), kad su primili muslimane migrante, prošle godine zabilježeno 22 silovanja. Toliko ih nije bilo zabilježeno unutar 10 godina prije toga.

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Šveđani imaju ogromnih problema sakriti svoje probleme.


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Da vidimo što Bošnjaci koji žive u Švedskoj kažu kakvo je pravo stanje u toj zemlji.


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Da vidimo što Bošnjaci koji žive u Švedskoj kažu kakvo je pravo stanje u toj zemlji.



Boli nas ***. Gledamo sebe i svoja posla. A i bude li stogod, imamo se gdje vratiti.

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Baš je lepo gledati ove skandinavske majmune kako urušavaju i uništavaju vlastite države i polako ih pretvaraju u kalifate :biceovodobro

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Pure madness.

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Was Trump right about Sweden? As the President is mocked for his remarks on Swedish crime and immigration, ANDREW MALONE provides a disturbing dispatch from one of the world's most PC nations

By ANDREW MALONE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:07 GMT, 24 February 2017 | UPDATED: 13:24 GMT, 25 February 2017

The trouble began when police tried to arrest a teenage member of a notorious drug-dealing gang.

Within hours, the snowy streets of Rinkeby, a northern suburb of the Swedish capital Stockholm, had erupted into violence with his fellow gang members hurling Molotov cocktails at passing vehicles, torching parked cars, throwing rocks and looting shops.

The mob fought with police to free 17-year-old Maikal Hassan, the son of Ethiopian immigrants, and as they advanced, one officer drew his pistol and fired a shot at the gang and missed, while others shot high into the air to try to scare the masked youths.

Eventually, police withdrew for their own safety and were forced to call the imam from the local mosque to ask him to appeal to the rioters to disperse. Even then the disturbance continued until the early hours.

The riots on Monday night in Rinkeby, a migrant ghetto known locally as ‘Little Mogadishu’, are a major embarrassment for the Swedish government. They came just two days after Donald Trump, the U.S. President, was widely ridiculed for comments he made at a rally in Florida last weekend.

‘You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden,’ thundered Trump. ‘Sweden? Who’d believe this? Sweden? They took in large numbers [of asylum seekers]. They’re having problems like they never thought possible.’

Trump was reported — incorrectly — as claiming there had been a ‘terrorist incident’ in Sweden.

In fact, he had been referring to a report on Fox News, which blamed an alleged breakdown in law and order in Sweden on an influx of migrants over the past 20 years.

Trump’s comments drew immediate derision from the Swedish government and pro-migrant groups, which gleefully pointed out that the most interesting item in the Swedish news that day had been a photograph of a live elk trying to mount a wooden elk.

The Swedish royal family even joined in. King Carl Gustaf said it is ‘important to present’ good news and that Trump’s allegation was damaging the country’s reputation.

The fact that Sweden, the most liberal of European countries, openly welcomed asylum seekers, refugees and economic migrants over 20 years is not in doubt.

Some 1.7 million have arrived since the Nineties, transforming a country with a population of just ten million.

In the past two years alone — as war in Syria and Afghanistan, and conflict and poverty elsewhere in the Middle East and Africa has fuelled mass migration — Sweden has taken in 275,000 immigrants.

Now, in the wake of Trump’s claims, the riots in Rinkeby this week and reports that some 300 foreign-born Swedes have joined Islamic State, that open-door policy and its consequences are under scrutiny as never before.

Once home to working-class Swedes, Rinkeby’s population is now 90 per cent foreign incomers.

The few Swedes who remain called the place Little Mogadishu not just because of the large population of Somalis, but because — as in the Somali capital — violence and fear are endemic.

Maikal Hassan, the young man whose arrest led to the disturbances, was a member of the ‘Rinkeby Network’ gang that controls much of the local drug dealing.

Hassan — first named in a criminal police report when he was just ten years old; at 15, he was under youth detention for eight counts of assault, robbery and burglary — had been apprehended during a rare foray by officers into what is generally accepted as a no-go zone.

His brother was shot dead in a gangland feud last year.

‘These people don’t want to live a normal European life,’ a Rinkeby resident named Anton told me.

As I arrived at Rinkeby underground station this week, I was approached by a group of a dozen or so young foreign men who tried to sell me hard drugs — even though police patrols were less than 100 yards away.

When I ignored them, they turned their backs. I headed away from them towards the shops, many bearing Arabic script, and restaurants offering specialities from Africa and the Middle East.

The gangs here rule by fear — and even warn shopkeepers when they are going to be burgled, telling them they will get back a small cut of the takings as long as they do not raise the alarm. Many feel they have little choice but to comply.

‘The youths come into my shop and threaten me and my staff almost every day,’ said Nouri, 44, an Afghan granted asylum in 1998 who runs a shoe shop close to where the riots broke out.

‘They come in here and grab pairs of expensive shoes and just walk out. There is nothing I can do. If I report them to the police they will torch the store. There are usually about 40 to 50 thugs hanging out here on the square at night.’

One man who knows from bitter experience about the reality of life in Rinkeby is Hanif Azizi, the officer responsible for policing the area. On Monday, as the police faced the rioters, he says he told a colleague: ‘Perhaps Trump was right after all.’

At his office a mile from the flashpoint, dressed in plain clothes and with a pistol tucked into his belt, he admitted that, regardless of claims by the Swedish government, many areas are firmly in the control of foreign criminal gangs.

‘They are laughing at our society because they can do whatever they want,’ he told me. ‘They use fear and violence to try to stop the police from doing our job. There are so many that you can’t handle them.

‘They have tactics and they are very clever. The people here don’t think they are part of Swedish society. They listen to the imams at the mosque more than they listen to us. These criminals are in control.’

An Iranian immigrant who came to Sweden aged nine, Mr Azizi blamed social ills, lack of officers, 'passive' policing, and sentences being too soft for criminals, and that anyone helping police was more likely to be punished by their community than praised.

‘The good people leave,’ he said.

And Rinkeby is not an isolated example. Immigrant gangs are said to control several other areas of Stockholm. In a recent report, police admitted there are a staggering 53 ‘no-go zones’ in the country where it is unsafe to patrol.


Similar demographic changes due to migration have occurred in the suburbs of other Swedish cities, too, where tension is always simmering.

In Gothenburg, on the west coast, gangs of youngsters, mainly from Morocco, live on the streets having rejected life in care homes to survive on their wits.

One of the city’s biggest shopping malls, Nordstan, has been so plagued by gangs of young thieves it was declared another a ‘no-go’ zone. If caught, the youths, who have no ID documents, claim to be under 16 and escape prosecution.

It must be a wretched life for these youngsters. It has been reported that six Afghan child refugees have committed suicide in Sweden in the past six months as the government attempts to care for 25,000 unaccompanied migrant children.

The authorities stand accused of trying to cover up crimes involving migrants, including alleged sexual assaults committed at a recent music festival, and at New Year celebrations in the capital.

The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention statistics for 2016 show the number of reported rapes increased by 13 per cent year on year, to 6,560, while the number of reported sexual assaults increased by 20 per cent.

While it is not clear who is to blame for this increase, the National Council’s annual security survey found that immigrants were 2.5 times more likely to commit crimes than Swedish citizens.

Yet, despite this, the Swedish government continues to dismiss allegations that immigration is to blame in part for the rise in crime and civil unrest, saying any problems were due to ‘alienation, unemployment and problems with housing’.

Fredrik Lundh Sammeli, a spokesman for the ruling Social Democratic Party, told me that ‘the troublemakers are a very small group of individuals that has been challenged by the police and our society — but they are not related to immigration’. Whatever the truth, at the very least there has been a massive failure of integration.

And, as in other European countries with rising immigrant populations, this has promoted the rise of Far Right groups.

In Sweden, such groups have been accused of a series of fire bombings of mosques, as well as violent attacks on drug dealers and street children.

Politically, the beneficiary of growing anger about migration and its impact has been the Swedish Democrats, a Right-wing party that won 13 per cent of the vote at the general election in 2014.

A poll this week showed it is now backed by more than one in four Swedes.

Mattias Karlsson, leader of the party in the Swedish parliament, told me he was ‘very grateful to President Trump for focusing attention on this issue’, and expressed incredulity that the U.S. leader’s comments had proven so controversial.

‘Sweden is the most politically correct country in the world,’ he said.

‘For a long time, there have been no reports about the negative consequences of our open-door immigration policy because anyone who speaks out gets called a racist or a Nazi.

‘Riots like [that in Rinkeby] have become part of everyday life in Sweden.


‘We have huge problems with immigration and law and order. This is not only in Rinkeby. Now we have problems in our towns and cities that we did not dream could be possible ten years ago. People have had enough.’

So where did it all go so badly wrong for Sweden?

With a rapidly ageing population, the country began to welcome migrants from countries such as Turkey in the late Seventies, even arranging flights to bring in workers, who received the same generous welfare payments as locals.

But from 2011 onwards, the rate of immigration accelerated as those who arrived alone were allowed to send for their families once they were admitted. Many of these new arrivals are economic refugees.

Saeb Al-Saedy, a mechanical engineer originally from Baghdad, lives in Rinkeby and admits that there are ‘many really, really bad guys’ in the area.

Yet even so, he still blames the Swedish government for ‘oppressing’ immigrants. The unemployment rate among Swedes is 4 per cent, but among migrants it’s 22 per cent — partly because the job market is closely regulated.

‘When people don’t have any work, they take welfare and become criminals,’ Saeb told me. ‘Swedish people feel there are too many foreigners, and are scared of Islam. There are terrorists who are Muslims. But how many people were killed by Hitler?’

Such comments infuriate Swedes, who believe newcomers should be grateful to live in a country — funded by progressive personal taxation of up to 50 per cent for all earning more than £63,000 — with a generous welfare state offering free housing and healthcare for the unemployed.

But it is the rise in crime that causes most concern, particularly among women, some of whom told me they no longer go out at night in a country long regarded as being at the forefront of gender equality.

Anna, 27, an office worker, told me that because pepper spray is illegal in Sweden, she carries a can of ‘criminal identifier’ — an indelible spray paint that stays on the attacker. She hopes if she has to use it, it will disable an assailant long enough for her to flee.

‘I live in the area nearest to Rinkeby, where there is a shopping mall,’ she told me. ‘Gangs hang about in groups of 20 or more. They shout comments about me, and laughed when I used to go jogging.

‘I used to feel unsafe only after dark. Now, I feel scared even in daylight. I won’t even wear headphones in case I can’t hear someone creeping up to attack me.’


Such is the price that Sweden appears to be paying for its liberal and well-meaning policies, with a growing number of areas in its major cities where even the police fear to tread, let alone law-abiding citizens.

This may be an issue fraught with social and political complexities. But at its heart is the question increasingly convulsing nations across Europe: just how can they assimilate ever-growing number of migrants without creating dangerous social divisions that only serve to inflame extremism?

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Sad Šveđani misle svoje retardacije eksportirati po svijetu. Napadaju medije koji govore o problemima u Švedskoj. Nikad daleko od toga nije etiketea "rasist", "nacist". Samo slaba im korist od toga. To funkcionira samo unutar SW.

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Popizdili kulturni marxisti pravo. Da se takva ružna slika Švedske širi po svijetu.
Poznavajući njih odgovorit će sa puno više cenzure i represalija. Ali to se više ne da zaustaviti.

"Desna" stranka im prva sa rekordnih 27% u anketama. Ali ne bi mogli napraviti vladu jer se svi drugi udruže protiv njih. Još puno Šveđanki će morati biti silovano i vozila zapaljeno da Šveđani skuže da su im muslimani sveti rat jihad objavili.

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Žena u vladi, ministrica financija, najavila ministarstvo istine (Orwell, 1984). Kao eto oni će morati nešto raditi da se bore protiv fake news.
Kao primjer fake news navela da se okolo šire laži i glasine da će se Švedska morati zaduživati zbog migranata.

Pronašli da je ona 2015. rekla novinaru da će se Švedska morati zaduživati zbog migranta. I rezati, štedjeti u zdravstvu zbog njih.

Primjer slikovito govori koliko su oni opušteni da će njihovi massmediji pokriti sve njihove nelogičnosti is sranja.

Rekla je to što je rekla 2015, ali sve da i nije ne znači apsolutno ništa. Može se uzeti od armije, sudstva, policije, Šveđana, infrastrukture, obrazovanja pa se novac bacati na bezobrazne muslimane. Uopće se ne treba zaduživati u kreditima da bi se novac bacao bezveze i u rupu bez dna. A može se naravno dizati kredite u inozemstvu za armiju. Pa armiji dati malo manji proračun i prebaciti migrantima, zar ne ?

Takva vam je društvena diskusija u New USSR.

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Vjerujete li bbcu ili meni koji ovdje živi?

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Tebi ne vjeruje nitko jer si musliman na hrvatskom forumu. Nema to veze sa mjestom boravka.

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Jest se ovaj @Amidza ufurao. Eto baš ću ja povjerovati njemu takijašu a ne svojim rođacima u Geteborgu koji kažu drukčije.

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Jest se ovaj @Amidza ufurao. Eto baš ću ja povjerovati njemu takijašu a ne svojim rođacima u Geteborgu koji kažu drukčije.



Šta vele rodjaci, morel se odvaljivati na tropico bend, pa u nedjelju kao pravi hrvatski katolici uljudbenici u katoličku crkvu krista kralja na ispovijed i oprost jučerašnjih grijehova? Možda malo i u hrvatsko kulturno društvo Velebit u Bergsjön. :D

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Muslimani grupno siluju Šveđanku u nesvijesti zbog alkohola. Policija "nema resurse". Iako na videu kojeg su ovi stavili na Net dobili i lica i imena počinitelja, i policija klasificirala slučaj kao grubo silovanje.

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New cases where rapists filming themselves. They're still free and not being investigated by the police in gothenburg. I put up parts of a video where a girl gets raped while she's knocked out. Rapists are laughing and call woman " Swedish " and " fat boy " while they encourage each other to " fuck her in the butt ". the movie was nerklippt of me but in the original visible faces of offenders clearly and they mention each other by name. Facebook chose, however, to take away the movie, that's why I only post this screenshot. The movie comes from an upset mother whose daughter had to see what these guys are posted on snapchat early in the morning 7 January this year. Mom went this afternoon, 7 January, the police in gothenburg in order to make a report. Then she responded with disinterest. - they sat and ate cheetos and seemed to bother them.

First, they did not know how they would do to be able to receive the film, but then they went to get an e-mail address so that I could send it over. Given that the movie which the mother left to the police, without a doubt, show a woman who gets brutally raped, good images of the faces of offenders and also interiors from housing which should go to trace, so it may seem that the cops would have been fired up about this Materials and immediately start looking for the people in the movie. But I found nothing. It was like they were tired and just wanted to get me out of there. I even said that I knew what one of the guys name was and that it was possible to see on snapchat where he was at the moment, but the cops were more interested in watching TV, says the mother. It all ended with that she just spent a few minutes at the police station and now, a month and a half later, she has still not heard anything from the police.

When I go to the police, it is found that the case is classed as aggravated rape, but no one even has begun working with the case yet. I really can't answer when we begin working on this. We don't have the personnel to it right now, says Therese Ottosson in the department for felonies in gothenburg. The woman who left this movie to you says the police seemed completely uninterested and didn't want to take part of the information that she had on the perpetrators. What do you think about it? - it sounds of course not good, but we are all different. I don't think that's what usually happens. Why was it so this time? - unfortunately I can't answer that, but just like you, I do not think it sounds good, no, I think it sounds totally incomprehensible. Here you have all the proof you need, and every opportunity to arrest these guys? Yes, I understand that this doesn't look good in the eyes of the public.

How will you proceed with this now? I honestly don't know. We still have no staff right now to put on this matter, say Therese Ottosson. When the mother who left the film to the police are told that no one has looked at the case yet, she will be significantly affected. - in fact, it is not wise. Jesus Christ what is disgusting. I still see that this guy is putting up pictures on snapchat. I'm the one he should be in jail. I had all the information but nobody wanted to listen to me. Here, they had been able to do a quick arrest and identify the guys. I can't stop thinking about that woman in the movie. It's so terrible.

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Danas sam vidio u autobusu dvije lezbejke. Iza njih sjedio somalijanac crvene brade. Prstom nije maknuo kada su se ove dvije počele žvaljakati. Aferim momčino na uzdržanosti. I mnogo ateističniji bi tu pokleknuli pred kušnjom da im barem da do znanja da se ponašaju skladno i uljudbeno.

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Danas sam vidio u autobusu dvije lezbejke. Iza njih sjedio somalijanac crvene brade. Prstom nije maknuo kada su se ove dvije počele žvaljakati. Aferim momčino na uzdržanosti. I mnogo ateističniji bi tu pokleknuli pred kušnjom da im barem dadnu do znanja da se ponašaju skladno i uljudbeno.

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Takozvana "rs" je genocidna tvorevina.

The so-called "republic of srpska" is a genocidal ramshackle pseudo-state.

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A Komšić je bio hrvatski član predsjedništva. Znamo kako to već ide kad musliman zine.

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Swebus linija 830.

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A muhammad nije oženio dijete od 6. godina, pa jebao dijete od 9. godina. Znamo mi sve kako to ide kad musliman zine.

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American journalist Tim Pool has spent two days seeing 'dangerous' Malmö with his own eyes.
But the city did not live up to the bleak picture he had been told to expect.

"If this is the worst Malmö has to offer, then don't ever come to Chicago," Pool told news agency TT after visiting Rosengård, a neighbourhood with a high immigrant population.

Pool met municipal council member Nils Karlsson, who gave the journalist a guided tour of Malmö neighbourhoods Lindängen and Rosengård.

"I want to show the true picture of Malmö - without denying that there there are problems, poverty and challenges. But also to show that 330,000 people live in this city and most do not engage in crime or violence or kill each other," Karlsson told TT.

Pool's journalistic visit came about after Paul Joseph Watson, editor of right wing website Infowars, promised to pay for a trip to Malmö for any journalist that claimed Malmö was safe. This challenge came in the wake of President Donald Trump's false claims last week that a terror attack had taken place in Sweden.

The 18,800 SEK (USD 2,000) donation covers about 20 per cent of the costs of Pool's trip to Sweden and Europe.

"I do not work for anyone. Nobody is paying me and I am not getting anything in exchange for this. I just want to find out the truth," said Pool.

Pool told TT that he describes himself as a conflict and crisis journalist who posts his material on YouTube and Twitter.

The journalist says he is not surprised by Trump's use of Sweden as a device in his rhetoric.

"Many would say that Sweden's liberal policies are evidence that they work and would be of great benefit to the USA. Now Trump is using the issue of immigration to condemn that argument. The connection of crime in Sweden to immigration and refugees is an idea that has existed in the US for several years, even before Trump," said Pool.

While respect the concern regarding increases in violence in Malmö, Pool said that he considered warnings that he would be robbed or attacked in Rosengård as "ridiculous".

"Someone shouted at us and pointed a finger. A takeaway pizza restaurant owner did not want to let in "some fucking journalists". But if people are really afraid to come here, then I would recommend that you never come to Chicago. Chicago has about 750 murders each year," he said.

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Svi znamo da je Chicago mess. Porediti se sa njim govori da stvarno nešto nije u redu sa drugom stranom.
Kao da se Zagreb poredi sa Bagdadom.

Daj nam statistiku o ubojstvima u Copenhagen na 100.000 stanovnika i onda u Malmö.

Tu je razlika između Amerikanaca i švedske (pa i tebe) elite. Amerikanci ne lažu nikoga da je Chicago siguran i miran grad.

Možeš nam objasniti kako je već bilo 12 upucanih osoba od vatrenog oružja u Malmö u 2017 ? A Veljača još nije kraju.

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Jeste pretjerano, citao sam na flashbacku (najveci forum u Svedskoj).

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Ti tamo njima slažeš takije o Erdoganu i Turcima, protiv Kurda najveći šovinizam prosipaš. Znam čak i kako se zoveš.
U laži su kratke noge.

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BBC je napisao/la:
Svi znamo da je Chicago mess. Porediti se sa njim govori da stvarno nešto nije u redu sa drugom stranom.
Kao da se Zagreb poredi sa Bagdadom.

Daj nam statistiku o ubojstvima u Copenhagen na 100.000 stanovnika i onda u Malmö.

Tu je razlika između Amerikanaca i švedske (pa i tebe) elite. Amerikanci ne lažu nikoga da je Chicago siguran i miran grad.

Možeš nam objasniti kako je već bilo 12 upucanih osoba od vatrenog oružja u Malmö u 2017 ? A Veljača još nije kraju.



What's Wrong With Sweden?
The bizarre Twitter assault on the Scandinavian nation’s immigration policies may be based on a fiction—but that doesn’t mean all is well in Malmö.

FEARGUS O'SULLIVAN @FeargusOSull Feb 21, 2017 14 Comments
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Behold the urban hellhole that is Malmö's main square. (Routes North/Flickr)
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For anyone with the faintest acquaintance with Sweden, President Donald Trump’s recent invocation of the country this weekend as a hellhole made unstable by immigration-fueled crime is surreal in the extreme. In the aftermath of a tweet that seemed to suggest that the country had just experienced a terrorist attack (it hasn’t), Sweden’s third city of Malmö in particular fell into the crosshairs when an alt-right editor offered to pay liberal journalists’ expenses to visit what he suggested was a supposedly dangerous war zone.

Elsewhere, former UKIP leader-turned-shock jock Nigel Farage falsely claimed the city was “the rape capital of Europe.” Seeing Scandinavia’s largest country, with its reputation for high living standards, good governance, and low crime, thrust into a sort of police line-up of multicultural Europe’s failures felt a bit like seeing your neighbor’s lovable pet guinea pig being ducked as a witch.

Malmö’s violent crime rate would make the mayor of an average American big city weep with longing.
Is there any truth in the accusations? The short answer is no. Malmö is actually a likable, easy-going kind of place. Facing Denmark and Copenhagen across the Oresund Strait (a distance spanned by a bridge since 2000), it’s a historic, faintly gruff port city of 342,000 residents—think Liverpool to Copenhagen’s Paris. Or to make an American comparison, an Oakland to the Danish capital’s San Francisco. By Scandinavian standards, it’s ethnically diverse, bustling, and ever so slightly unkempt. By the standards of just about anywhere lying southwards, however, its streets come across as trim, orderly, and, peaceful.

Certainly, Malmö is a city whose urban (but not greater metropolitan) population has been substantially reshaped by immigration. A third of its population was born outside Sweden, with the largest groups coming from (in order) Iraq, Serbia, Denmark, and Poland. Rates of arrival have gone up in recent years. What hasn’t risen, however, is crime.

In fact, Malmö’s violent crime figures would make the mayor of an average American big city weep with longing. With 12 murders in 2015 among a population of 342,000, Malmö’s murder rate is two thirds that of Western Europe’s real murder capital of Glasgow, and half that of Los Angeles. By contrast, Washington, D.C., has a murder rate almost seven times higher, while the rate in St. Louis, Missouri is just under 17 times higher. In relatively safe Sweden, those 12 murders are still cause for rightful alarm, but as this piece makes clear, Malmö’s crime figures aren’t just low compared to most American cities—they’re not even the highest in Sweden.

So how did the city develop such a fearsome reputation? President Trump may be wrong, but he’s not the first to paint this corner of Sweden in lurid terms. One reason lies with the Scandinavian media itself. In this richest, calmest and—dare I say it?—dullest of states, what look like subtle shades of grey from outside can seem like stark black-and-white from within. The more sensational sections of the Scandinavian media have sometimes painted Malmö as some kind of dangerous urban trash-fire, powered more recently by its role as an arrival point for refugees coming across the Oresund Bridge.

It’s a portrayal that has had some effect on public attitudes—in one highly publicized incident, fear led parents from a provincial Danish school to cancel a school trip there in 2013.

The thing is, the Scandinavian media do this a lot. To take another example, Copenhagen’s central, project-fringed Nørrebro neighborhood, site of a small riot in 2007, is not uncommonly referred to as “Norrebronx” in the press, despite being a hip, well-heeled area with an appearance so tidy it’s almost dispiriting.

There are nonetheless other reasons for some anxiety around Malmö and other Swedish cities. The riots over the weekend in the Stockholm district of Rinkeby are hardly a sign of placid agreement. New immigrants may not have created a spike in crime, but they can find the route to assimilation and success in Sweden very difficult. Employment levels for migrants remain low, with this OECD report not just citing different education systems and job markets in migrants’ countries of birth as a cause, but also discrimination and the language barrier. With a high level of competency in Swedish (itself a complex language) required across the board, Sweden is a country where migrants can find it difficult to secure even classically low-paid jobs such as fast-food service, with significant problems faced even by migrants with a higher degree.

That doesn’t mean that immigrants’ physical living conditions are bad. Scandinavian welfare payments aren’t lavish, but they don’t equal destitution either, while housing conditions are generally good. Below for example, is a photo of the supposed dark heart of Rosengård, a Malmö neighborhood where 60 percent of residents were born outside Sweden.


The mean streets of Rosengård, Malmö. Ulf Liljankoski/Flickr
People in areas like this can still become isolated from other communities in the city, creating a sense of frustration and impotence. As one former Stockholm project resident commented in this piece, “Stockholm is the most segregated capital city in Europe, and its slums are better maintained than [the elite London neighborhood] Hampstead.”

This isn’t a uniquely Swedish issue, per se. Similar problems exist across Scandinavian cities and—albeit coupled with far worse living conditions—in Britain and France. Meanwhile, in Denmark, the situation is almost a mirror image. A Danish Palestinian friend of mine, for example, recounted that when his family arrived in the 1980s and moved into a project near Copenhagen, it was made clear to them by the authorities that no one expected them to take any significant place in Danish society until they’d established themselves in the country for three generations. This is hardly a recipe for seamless integration or fostering a sense of belonging.

You won’t see Denmark being attacked as Sweden has in the past few days, however. Why? Because Denmark’s policy towards asylum seekers—which has involved barring all but a handful and even threatening to confiscate their jewelry on arrival—has been universally harsh and inhumane. Sweden, by contrast, has accepted more refugees per capita than any other European country.

That’s why it’s being singled out now by those trying to validate their politics of cruelty: If you are in the business of stirring up hatred and fear of minorities, Sweden’s approach has to be seen as a failure. It says something about the country’s successes that its opponents can only win arguments by lying about it.

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