Ne znam u detalje, ali znam da je Hulaguovo carstvo - Ilkanat - na području nekadašnjeg Iranskog Carstva, bio u stalnom kontaktu s kršćanskim svijetom s ciljem sklapanja strateškog saveza protiv islamskog svijeta, ali bez značajnijih uspjeha.

Ali zamislite scenarij u kojem bi bio ostvaren taj savez - danas bi vjerojatno postojala i Jeruzalemska Kraljevina.

No, mongolsko osvojenje Irana, ali i dijela Bliskog Istoka i Anatolije svakako je igralo pozitivnu ulogu za Europu jer je koliko-toliko zaustavljeno islamsko širenje. Mongoli su, čak se može i reći, u tome smislu i spasili Europu.

Evo, nađoh nešto i o tome...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Mongol_alliance

Krstaši su ništa u odnosu na ono šta su im Mongoli uradili. Spalili npr Bagdad do temelja i sve pobili. A koji vek kasnije je i Timur vodao sultana Bajazita u kavezu, kao mečku, nakon što ga je zarobio u bici kod Angore. Iako je i Timur bio musliman, svejedno je i to pomoglo Evropi, s obzirom da su joj tada pretili Turci, a ne Mongoli.

Pa to i govorim. A kod Mongola je bilo dosta i nestorijanaca, to je neka prastara kršćanska sekta što su ih proglasili hereticima (i Rim i Carigrad), pa su imali i određene simpatije prema kršćanskom svijetu.

Kao iz drugog sveta. Onaj osećaj da gledaš u daljinu i ugledaš hordu ovakvih koji zgaziše sve pred sobom.

Najjača vojska svih vremena. Oni su u svoje vreme bili vojno nadmoćniji nad ostalima više nego što je Amerika to danas. Džingis je jedini vojskovođa u istoriji koji nije izgubio baš nijednu bitku.

Zato što su u Europu donijeli potpuno drugačiji način ratovanja, tragično je da nakon toliko stoljeća i Atile Europa nije bila spremna.

Zaboravljate jednu važnu činjenicu da je prodor imao tragične posljedice za Slavene, pada najmoćnija slavenska država Kijevska Rusija.
Novgorodska Rusija postaje vazal, istok Europe ima tragične posljedice.

šta je najgore oni ni nisu neka vojska,ta kultura konjanika strijelca je vjerojatno nastala kao lovacka kultura negdi u stepama jos u broncano doba tako da je đingi samo okupio hordu broncanodobnih bikera i pokorio svijet pukom taktickom prednoscu imanja mogucnosti ispaljivanja projektila za vrijeme povlacenja,pokretanja i to


sad ja zamisljam te jahace kao stepske lovce koji su presli na konjeve posto je to glomazan a slabo naseljen prostor,drugcije bice nisu mogli lovit,cak su i sokole sa sobom nosili na konjima ja mislim

bas ko amerika totalno spusili u vjetnamu

Nije baš tako uvode potpune inovacije u ratovanje, da baš, pola svijeta osvojiti s hrpom lovaca.
Imaju sofisticarne taktike, veliku mobilnost u odnosu na tadašnje vojske.
Napredan sustav komunikacije, koriste skaute, signalne zastave i glasnike.

Europska vojska toga toba se sastoji od teške oklopne konjice i lako naoružanih seljaka.

a sad taj pony taxi jesu uveli al to su i moralo posto su tako dugacak entitet uspostavili.a za tesku konjicu"sta je je" imali u mongoli i lance da i bili lukavi a to i nije tesko kad ti je vojska sastavljena od konjice same,znas i sam iz total wara

Iskreno, ne znam ni ja. jedino kada sam zadnji put čuo taj podatak bilo je u kontekstu da su našli prvog bijelca za kojeg je dokazano genetskim putem da je potomak Džingis-kana. Živi u SAD-u, no od tada je prošlo dosta vremena.

Džingis kan je za vrijeme svojeg života imao oko 100 djece koje je napravio sa robinjama. Sve je moguće.

To su priče, inače je imao hrpu djece a svaki vladar ili sitni plemić u Aziji koji drži do sebe tvrdio je da potječe od Džingis kana.

Izgubio ih je 2.
Ali je iz tih poraza naučio više nego kaj mnogi uče iz pobjeda.
I da, u obje bitke je bio malobrojniji, i u nepovoljnijem položaju (napali su ga drugi na prepad), a uspio je osigurati taktičko povlačenje.

cak je i alexa izgubio jednu,odnosno odusta od jednog branjenog prolaza

Mongol battle tactics was based on 4 main features - Control,Mobility,Massed Firepower and Surprise.A Mongol army in battle was nominally divided into 2 wings and a centre plus reserves and advance guard.

Mongol scouts operated 35 to 70 miles in advance of a mongol army making it near impossible to surprise it.Two-fifths of a mongol force were heavy cavalry,and the rest horse archers.Horse archers usually stayed out of reach of their opponents’ weapons and used hit and run tactics in waves while showering the enemy with arrows. Often they retreated before the enemy, utilizing the famous ‘Parthian shot’ as they went. At the right moment, normally when the enemy’s forces were drawn out in pursuit, the nomads would wheel around and annihilate them. These methods of war were augmented with surprise attacks, ambushes, and encirclements.The Mongols were not necessarily innovative but simply perfected the timeless tactics of the steppe. Training exercises further perfected their execution.

The Tumens would typically advance on a broad front, five lines deep. Three lines would be composed of horse archers,two of lancers. Once an enemy force was located, the Mongols would try to avoid risky or reckless frontal assaults (in sharp contrast to their European and Middle-Eastern opponents). Instead they would use diversionary attacks to fix the enemy in place, while their main forces sought to outflank or surround the foe. First the horse archers would lay down a withering barrage of arrow fire. Additional arrows were carried by camels who followed close by, ensuring a plentiful supply of ammunition.



Caracole Tactics -
The Mongols combined the basic arrow storm with hit-and-run tactics, changing horses regularly to keep them fresh. Approximately 60 or 80 men in each jaghun participated, the remaining acting as heavy cavalry. Each jaghun sent 20 men per wave. The waves fired several arrows as they charged, and then circled back to the Mongol lines after completing their charge, having loosed their final shot roughly 40–50m from the enemy line before wheeling around. This distance was close enough to pierce armor, but far enough from the enemy to evade a counter-charge. While circling back, the Mongols often used the ‘Parthian shot’. Since each man was equipped with 60 arrows the Mongols could maintain this barrage for almost an hour, perhaps longer if the number of men in each wave varied.



Whenever possible, the Mongols preferred to surround their enemies by using their nerge training.As soon as the scouting screen of a Mongol army made contact with the enemy, the main body extended in front over as great a distance as possible so as to overlap the flanks of the hostile force. On closer contact and the approach of action, skirmishers went forward, and scouts were called upon to bring in reports about local topography, lines of communication, and the strength and disposition of the opposing troops.The Mongols sometimes confused an enemy by feinting towards his front and then unleashing their main attack against his rear. By attacking from several directions, the Mongols gave their enemies the impression that they were surrounded. By leaving a gap in their encirclement the Mongols allowed the enemy an apparent means of escape, whereas in reality it served as a trap. In their panic and desire to escape through this gap, the enemy often discarded their weapons to flee faster and rarely maintained their discipline. The Mongols then attacked them from the rear, as in their defeat of the Hungarians at Mohi in 1241. Mongol writer Dalantai(during Kublai) called this the ‘Open-the-End tactic’ and noted that the Mongols used it if the enemy seemed to be very strong and might fight to the death if trapped.



Feigned Retreat -
The feigned retreat was a classic tactic of steppe warfare practised since ancient times. A token force charged the enemy and then retreated, drawing the enemy in pursuit. The retreat might extend a great distance in order to stretch the enemy’s ranks and formations. Then at a pre-arranged location, other Mongol forces would attack from the flanks while the token force wheeled around and attacked from the front.Used to full effect at Kalka river 1223 and at Liegnitz 1241 as well as numerous other mongol battles.

Fabian Tactics -
At times the Mongols avoided combat with the enemy until they found an ideal location for a battle or had regrouped far-flung forces to confront their opponent. This tactic differed from the feigned retreat in which they attacked and then withdrew with the deliberate intent of luring the enemy into an ambush. Fabian tactics involved the avoidance of all direct contact with the enemy. The Mongol army would often divide into small groups to prevent it from being surrounded when necessary, and then regroup and launch a surprise attack on the enemy at a more opportune time.Fabian tactics also had the effect of exhausting the enemy by avoiding combat,the constant stress of the anticipation of an attack wore down some units.When the Mongols were confronted by opponents who had planted spears in the ground to prevent cavalry charges, they responded by withdrawing the bulk of their forces while a few detachments remained behind to harass the enemy. Eventually, their enemies would emerge from their defenses, either because of hunger or thirst or because they believed that the Mongols had withdrawn. The main Mongol force would then return and destroy them. Again, in this way the Mongols were able to choose a more opportune time to fight if the initial encounter did not go well.

Some other basic formations and field tactics are described such as -
Moving Bush - Repeated small skimishes intermittantly at different fringes to draw opponent into a more strung out formation.
Chisel formation- Concentrate your heavy combat units into a single point of attack after you got them to spread out their forces.
Lake formation - Successive waves of attacks along enemy front. Each line, or wave, attacks and withdraws filtering through the next wave on its attack.
Falling stars - Small units attack and pin down parts of the enemy simultaneously so no part of their army can reinforce another.