Netanyahu: Hitler Didn't Want to Exterminate the Jews

Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews, but Jerusalem's Grand Mufti convinced him to exterminate them, a claim that was rejected by most accepted Holocaust scholars.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked public uproar when on Wednesday he claimed that the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the one who planted the idea of the extermination of European Jewry in Adolf Hitler's mind. The Nazi ruler, Netanyahu said, had no intention of killing the Jews, but only to expel them.

In a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, Netanyahu described a meeting between Husseini and Hitler in November, 1941: "Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them."

Netanyahu's remarks were quick to spark a social media storm, though Netanyahu made a similar claim during a Knesset speech in 2012, where he described the Husseini as "one of the leading architects" of the final solution.
The claim that Husseini was the one to initiate the extermination of European Jewry had been suggested by a number of historians at the fringes of Holocaust research, but was rejected by most accepted scholars.

The argument concerning Husseini's role was recently mentioned in a book by Barry Rubin and Wolfgang G. Schwanitz, "Nazis, Islamists, and the Making of the Modern Middle East." The authors, like Netanyahu, draw a straight line between the mufti's support of Hitler and the policy of the Palestinian Liberation Organization under Yasser Arafat.

But even these two researchers do not claim that the dialogue described by Netanyahu ever took place. They say Hitler reached the conclusion to exterminate the Jews because of his desire to nurture Husseini, who opposed the transfer of Jews to pre-state Israel.

Gluposti, iako je istina da su nacisti u početku pod konačnim rješenjem mislili na iseljavanje Židova iz Europe u Palestinu kao što su već davno prije zagovarali njemački anti semiti.

Ali da je to muftija rekao ne sumnjam ni najmanje.

U Francuskoj bi za ovu izjavu završio u zatvoru, no dobro, treba holokaust iskoristiti za dnevno-političke ciljeve. Švabe prodaju podmornice, a Palestinci ih napadaju noževima

Gluposti, iako je istina da su nacisti u početku pod konačnim rješenjem mislili na iseljavanje Židova iz Europe u Palestinu kao što su već davno prije zagovarali njemački anti semiti.

Ali da je to muftija rekao ne sumnjam ni najmanje.

Madagaskar bi zasigurno bio stabilnije rješenje od Palestine.

Europski anti-semiti su već u 19. st. s buđenjem nacionalnih osjećaja i gledanja prema Židovima kao stranom tijelu počeli iznositi ideje o povratku Židova u staru domovinu Palestinu odakle su ih protjerali Rimljani i naselili u Europi, prvo u njemačku a onda u ostatak istočne Europe

Iako je ta teza tada izgledala točna ila je daleko od logične pa je ispalo da su većina istočno europskih Židova ustvari Hazari koji nemaju veze s Palestinom.

U ljeto 1940. nacistička Njemačka imala je naizgled vrlo čudan plan: iseliti sve Židove iz Europe na afrički otok Madagaskar.

“Skora pobjeda Njemačke daje mogućnost, a prema mojem mišljenju i obvezu, rješavanja židovskog pitanja u Europi. Poželjno rješenje je: svi Židovi van iz Europe”, tako je Franz Rademacher, šef njemačkog Ministarstva vanjskih poslova započeo dopis u kojem je predlagao deportaciju Židova na Madagaskar. Taj bi potez, prema Rademacheru svijetu pokazao “velikodušnost” njemačkog naroda.

Taj je otok predstavljen kao moguća destinacija za Židove u svibnju i lipnju 1940. kada su njemačke snage počele svoj pohod u zapadnoj Europi.

Čak je i Adolf Hitler to spomenuo na jednom susretu s vođom fašističke Italije Benitom Mussolinijem. Šef SS postrojbi Heinrich Himmler jednom je prilikom izrazio želju da se “Židovi presele u Afriku ili neko drugo mjesto”.

Začudo, ideja preseljenja Židova na Madagaskar nije bila nova. Plan je prvotno predložio njemački znanstvenik Paul de Lagarde, čiji su spisi imali veliki utjecaj na Hitlera.

Godine 1937. poljska vlada poslala je misiju na Madagaskar kako bi utvrdili mogućnosti da taj otok bude novi dom Židova. Na kraju Židovi ipak nisu završili na Madagaskaru i nemoguće je znati što bi se točno dogodilo da je plan realiziran, ali povjesničari se slažu da bi bilo prilično brutalno.

In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world.

The Mufti sent Hitler 15 drafts of declarations he wanted Germany and Italy to make concerning the Middle East. One called on the two countries to declare the illegality of the Jewish home in Palestine. Furthermore, “they accord to Palestine and to other Arab countries the right to solve the problem of the Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries, in accordance with the interest of the Arabs and, by the same method, that the question is now being settled in the Axis countries.”

In November 1941, the Mufti met with Hitler, who told him the Jews were his foremost enemy. The Nazi dictator rebuffed the Mufti's requests for a declaration in support of the Arabs, however, telling him the time was not right. The Mufti offered Hitler his “thanks for the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his public speeches....The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely....the Jews....” Hitler replied:

Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in Palestine....Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the Arabs involved in the same struggle....Germany's objective [is]...solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere....In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. The Mufti thanked Hitler profusely.2

In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.

Židovi ne bi sigurno pristali na Madagaskar ali velika većina poticana cionistima sigurno bi pristala na povratak u Palestinu gdje će dobiti svoju državu.

Muftija je sasvim sigurno to dobro znao ali ipak ovo su žešće gluposti plan o ubijanju je donesen tek u tijeku rata kada su krenuli gubici i kad se vidjelo da je pobjeda gotovo nemoguća.

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Ne. Plan je konačno zaključen u siječnju 1942. na Vanzenskoj konferenciji.

Koji plan o preseljenju ili istrebljenju?

protjerali Rimljani i naselili u Europi, prvo u njemačku a onda u ostatak istočne Europe

LOL

1941, počinje se sa preseljenjem na istok Europe kasnije se taj plan naglo mijenja odlukom o konačnom rješenju.

Šta je bio glavni razlog za promijenu ideje o preseljenju prema ovoj o pogubljenjima koja je donesena u tajnosti među SS vrhuškom je teško za znati.

Židovi ne bi sigurno pristali na Madagaskar ali velika većina poticana cionistima sigurno bi pristala na povratak u Palestinu gdje će dobiti svoju državu.

Muftija je sasvim sigurno to dobro znao ali ipak ovo su žešće gluposti plan o ubijanju je donesen tek u tijeku rata kada su krenuli gubici i kad se vidjelo da je pobjeda gotovo nemoguća.