Mary, a Teenage Bride and Mother

One very remarkable thing about Mary is that she would almost certainly have been 12-14 years old when the angel Gabriel appeared to her. We know this because the common custom at that time was for girls to marry early, at that age.
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In ancient Israel, girls married in their teens, even early teens. [2] For Mary to be betrothed (engaged) but not yet formally married, yet old enough to have and nurse the Messiah, she would have been 12-14.
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It is often assumed that Joseph married late in his life, because it is almost certain that he had died by the time Jesus started his ministry.
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If we are going to paint a picture of the birth of Christ, or cast a woman for a living nativity scene, there is some room for interpretation, but if we want to show Mary as she actually was, having a girl of twelve to fourteen as an actor or model would be the most proper thing to do.

http://www.truthortradition.com/article ... and-mother

Jeste li znali da je sveta Marija imala 12-14 godina kad je rodila Isusa?

A sveti Josip je vjerovatno bio star.

Early Church Fathers Believed Joseph was 80 to 90 years old when he married 12-year-old Mary

“Thanks to the apocrypha writings, which inspired many artists over the ages, the popular belief became widespread that Joseph had first married when he was forty years old and fathered six children by his wife before she died when he was eighty-nine years old. The youngest of his child was said to be James the Less, ‘Christ’s brother.’ This tradition holds that Joseph was ninety years old when he went to Jerusalem to join other candidates seeking the hand of the twelve- to fourteen year old Mary in Marriage.” [9]
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The very advanced age of Joseph, marrying Mary, was true and accepted by most early Church Fathers. Reverend Jeremiah Jones writes about 2 to 3 pages long that Infancy Protevangelion of James was accepted by Early Church Fathers as truthful account of Mary and Joseph’s marriage. If one reads the Infancy Gospel of James (Protevangelion of James), in Chapter 8 it says that Mary was married to Joseph when she was 12 years old.

“…His eldest son was James, surnamed Oblias—that he begat him when he was about forty years old: after him he had another son named Jose, then Simeon and Judas, and then his two daughters Mary and Salome: after his wife’s death he continued many years a widower, and about fourscore years old married Mary. Besides Epiphanius, several other of the Greek fathers have given into this same opinion, viz. Hilary, Chrysostome, Cyrill, Euthyymius, Theophylact, Cecumenius, and generally, as bishop Peaterson says: ‘all Latin fathers till Ambrose, and the Greeks afterward; from which it is very evident that the account of Joseph’s age and family, which is in the Gospel of the Birth Mary, and the Protevangelion of James, met with very general credit among ancient Christians.” [10]
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As we have read, most early church fathers believed Mary was married off when she was 12 years old and Joseph the carpenter was a very old man. Here is the list of fathers who believed that Joseph was fourscore years old when he married 12-year-old Mary:

1. Epiphanius (310 – 403AD)
2. Hilary (Hilarius) of Poitiers (300 – 368AD)
3. John Chrysostom (Born between 344 and 349 – Died 407 AD)
4. Cyril of Alexandria (376 – 444 AD)
5. Saint Euthymius the Great (377 – 473 AD)
6. Theophylact of Ohrid (also known as Theophylact of Bulgaria) (1055 – 1107 AD)
7. Cecumenius
8. Eusebius (263 – 339 AD)

https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/ ... carpenter/

A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm

U apokrifima piše...

jer zaista treba biti veliki čovek da te mrze i prete ti i ustaše i četnici i baliye

A zar ne bi bilo bolje da stisneš ruku nekomu koga svi vole? Koji je svojim radom, životom i svojom ljudskošću učinio to da će se i Srbi i Hrvati i muslimani radovati ako ga vide, npr Đokoviću.




Nije, dosta ti je da budeš npr pedofil pa da to imaš.

Nije mi jasno zašto uopšte ljudi gube vreme na te proteste, nije kao da ih neko vuče u HNK da gledaju predstavu. Još su carevi dali pare za karte da prave unutra cirkus, samo da bi bili izbačeni.
Samo su ga isfinansirali.

Pa pedofile vole upravo katolička,pravoslavna i muslimanska bratija , tj.nisam video da su se skupili masovno hrvatski katolici,srpski pravoslavci i bošnjaki muslimani da linčuju i pišu tužbe protiv sveštenika i crkve koji su hrvatsku,srpsku i bošnjačku decu silovali i sve to zataškavali godinama.

Kod “belog duhovenstva” pomenutih vrsta ograničenja nema. Pop ne mora da se zavetuje na siromaštvo, kao ni na poslušnost u onom smislu, u kojem se na njega obavezuje monah. On je zapravo obavezan na manje dominantan – zavet skromnosti, a što se stupanja u bračnu zajednicu tiče, čak je i u obavezi da se oženi ukoliko želi da dobije parohiju.

Pogrešno, ne možeš svrstati pravoslavne sa ostalima zbog toga što prvoslavno sveštenstvo može stupiti u brak pa, analogno tome, donesi zaključak.

Deo iz izvora

Ovde nije problem jel neko oženjen ili nije već je problem ćutanje vernika i zataškavanje vođstva crkve u vezi pedofillije , a vamo svi skaču kad im neko "uvredi boga" i hoće da linčiju gejeve svako malo.
Ne skreći sa poente jer tako opravdavaš pedofiliju u pravoslavnoj crkvi koja definitvno postoji , doduše najviše kod celbatske bratije koji i vode crkvu.

Slažem se. Međutim, akcenat sam stavila na procentualnu zastupljenost, valjda je to jasno. Ne znam zbog čega bih zbog toga o/pravdala pedofiliju koje evidentno ima. Negde sam pisala da vernici čak imaju obavezu da se protiv toga pobune, i ne samo protiv toga već protiv mnogih stvari koje se dešavaju u crkvi a nisu ni po Bogu ni po narodu, ni po jednom crkvenom kanonu.

Ko vređa Boga neka ga vređa ako mu godi, njegova je stvar a ne stvar vernika, jer rasprava vernika sa ateistom ne vodi ama baš ničemu korisnom, naprotiv. I što je važno, više se ateista trudi da dokaže nepostojanje Boga nego vernik postojanje. Interesantno za prvu verujuću kategoriju.

Oko gej populacije smo davno raspravljali pa ne bih da rizikujem da me ponovo nazoveš homofobom.

I što je važno, više se ateista trudi da dokaže nepostojanje Boga nego vernik postojanje. Interesantno za prvu verujuću kategoriju.

Zbog ovakvih reči i laži od mene nećeš dobiti nikad poštovanje , ali ćeš ga svakako dobiti od braće ti vernika koji će bez imalo srama reći da je ateizam religija takođe kao ti sada da se vernici više trude dokazati da bog ne psotoji nego što vernici da postoji.

Zato ti moram reći kao i ranije da si tupava(tvoj izbor) , jer mene zaista boli qurac za postojanje i nepostojanje višeg bića , već samo ukazujem da pogubnost religije kao što su KC,PC i islam koje same po sebi nemaju veze sa tim nekim bićeem iz oblaka jer su najpodlija ljudska tvorevina stvorena za manipulaciju,vlast,tiraniju i činjenje zla bez posledica.

Kažeš da si napisla kako vernici moraju imati obavezu da se pobune protiv loših stvari u crkvi?! , pa nešto nisam viđao tvoje postove o tome , čak šta više uvek se nakačiš na neki moj post i ideš "braniti boga" od mene kao i ovi majmuni u Splitu.
Dokaz za to je upravo i tvoja priča o pravoslavnim popovima kako su oženjeni , i sa time si skrenula sa poente mojeg posta jer te očoito više živcirma ja i moj stav nego podefilija i loše stvari u crkvi.

Usrali sizmatici temu koja ih se ne tice.

Bog se ne može uvrediti i u tome je sva poenta , (...)

Zbog ovakvih reči i laži od mene nećeš dobiti nikad poštovanje , ali ćeš ga svakako dobiti od braće ti vernika koji će bez imalo srama reći da je ateizam religija takođe kao ti sada da se vernici više trude dokazati da bog ne psotoji nego što vernici da postoji.

Kažeš da si napisla kako vernici moraju imati obavezu da se pobune protiv loših stvari u crkvi?! , pa nešto nisam viđao tvoje postove o tome , čak šta više uvek se nakačiš na neki moj post i ideš "braniti boga" od mene kao i ovi majmuni u Splitu.

Ksenija će digunti ruku na sebe jer je izgubila Enterovo poštovanje.