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Fina knjiga koja ukazuje na nepostojanje 'američke nacije', na nemogućnost izgradnje građanske nacije.

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In his fourth book, "American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures in North America," award-winning author Colin Woodard identifies 11 distinct cultures that have historically divided the US.

"The country has been arguing about a lot of fundamental things lately including state roles and individual liberty," Woodard, a Maine native who won the 2012 George Polk Award for investigative reporting, told Business Insider.

"[But] in order to have any productive conversation on these issues," he added, "you need to know where you come from. Once you know where you are coming from it will help move the conversation forward."

Here's how Woodard describes each nation:

Yankeedom

Encompassing the entire Northeast north of New York City and spreading through Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, Yankeedom values education, intellectual achievement, communal empowerment, and citizen participation in government as a shield against tyranny. Yankees are comfortable with government regulation. Woodard notes that Yankees have a "Utopian streak." The area was settled by radical Calvinists.

New Netherland

A highly commercial culture, New Netherland is "materialistic, with a profound tolerance for ethnic and religious diversity and an unflinching commitment to the freedom of inquiry and conscience," according to Woodard. It is a natural ally with Yankeedom and encompasses New York City and northern New Jersey. The area was settled by the Dutch.

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New York City is located in Woodward's New Netherland.

The Midlands

Settled by English Quakers, The Midlands are a welcoming middle-class society that spawned the culture of the "American Heartland." Political opinion is moderate, and government regulation is frowned upon. Woodard calls the ethnically diverse Midlands "America's great swing region." Within the Midlands are parts of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, Kansas, and Nebraska.

Tidewater

Tidewater was built by the young English gentry in the area around the Chesapeake Bay and North Carolina. Starting as a feudal society that embraced slavery, the region places a high value on respect for authority and tradition. Woodard notes that Tidewater is in decline, partly because "it has been eaten away by the expanding federal halos around D.C. and Norfolk."

Greater Appalachia

Colonized by settlers from the war-ravaged borderlands of Northern Ireland, northern England, and the Scottish lowlands, Greater Appalachia is stereotyped as the land of hillbillies and rednecks. Woodard says Appalachia values personal sovereignty and individual liberty and is "intensely suspicious of lowland aristocrats and Yankee social engineers alike." It sides with the Deep South to counter the influence of federal government. Within Greater Appalachia are parts of Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Indiana, Illinois, and Texas.

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Louisville, Kentucky, is located in Woodward's Greater Appalachia.

Deep South

The Deep South was established by English slave lords from Barbados and was styled as a West Indies-style slave society, Woodard notes. It has a very rigid social structure and fights against government regulation that threatens individual liberty. Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina are all part of the Deep South.

El Norte

Composed of the borderlands of the Spanish-American empire, El Norte is "a place apart" from the rest of America, according to Woodard. Hispanic culture dominates in the area, and the region values independence, self-sufficiency, and hard work above all else. Parts of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California are in El Norte.

The Left Coast

Colonized by New Englanders and Appalachian Midwesterners, the Left Coast is a hybrid of "Yankee utopianism and Appalachian self-expression and exploration," Woodard says, adding that it is the staunchest ally of Yankeedom. Coastal California, Oregon, and Washington are in the Left Coast.

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San Francisco is a natural fit for Woodward's Left Coast.

The Far West

The conservative west. Developed through large investment in industry, yet where inhabitants continue to "resent" the Eastern interests that initially controlled that investment. Among Far West states are Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Washington, Oregon, North Dakota, South Dakota, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California.

New France

A pocket of liberalism nestled in the Deep South, its people are consensus driven, tolerant, and comfortable with government involvement in the economy. Woodard says New France is among the most liberal places in North America. New France is focused around New Orleans in Louisiana as well as the Canadian province of Quebec.

First Nation

Made up of Native Americans, the First Nation's members enjoy tribal sovereignty in the US. Woodard says the territory of the First Nations is huge, but its population is under 300,000, most of whose people live in the northern reaches of Canada.

Woodard says that among these 11 nations, Yankeedom and the Deep South exert the most influence and are constantly competing with each other for the hearts and minds of the other nations.

"We are trapped in brinkmanship because there is not a lot of wiggle room between Yankee and Southern Culture," Woodard says. "Those two nations would never see eye to eye on anything besides an external threat."

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In 2013, Ted Cruz infamously held the Senate floor for 21 hours in an attempt to filibuster Obamacare.

Woodard also believes the nation is likely to become more polarized, even though America is becoming a more diverse place every day. He says this is because people are "self-sorting."

"People choose to move to places where they identify with the values," Woodard says. "Red minorities go south and blue minorities go north to be in the majority. This is why blue states are getting bluer and red states are getting redder and the middle is getting smaller."


The Business Insider

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Glupost, New Orleans je inače pun Francuza koji glasaju za demokrate :zubati

U principu, te nacije su rase, s time da kod bijelaca i crnaca postoji podjela na sjeverne i južne crnce i bijelce s različitim kulturnim shvaćanjima.(Jug je konzervativniji, okrenutiji liberalnoj ekonomiji, vjeri, oružju, dok je sjever demokratski. Kod Crnaca jug zadržao tradicionalnu obitelj. Manje ghettoašenja i u principu uspješniji, primjer Atlanta i Detroit.) Židovi također posebna nacija, s tendencijom utapanja i asimilacije.

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A jesi mi dao link ti ko Amer gdje je gusarski pdf, izgleda zanimljiva knjiga.

Ali mislim da je ovo bezveze jedino se po meni može govoriti o 4 nacije u sj. Americi koje se onda mogu podijeliti po regiji, porijeklu, vjeri itd

Indijanci-domorodačko stanovništvo
Amerikanci-bijeli europski doseljenici
Afro-amerikanci-potomci robova
Hispanci-mestici

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Glupost, New Orleans je inače pun Francuza koji glasaju za demokrate :zubati

U principu, te nacije su rase, s time da kod bijelaca i crnaca postoji podjela na sjeverne i južne crnce i bijelce s različitim kulturnim shvaćanjima.(Jug je konzervativniji, okrenutiji liberalnoj ekonomiji, vjeri, oružju, dok je sjever demokratski. Kod Crnaca jug zadržao tradicionalnu obitelj. Manje ghettoašenja i u principu uspješniji, primjer Atlanta i Detroit.) Židovi također posebna nacija, s tendencijom utapanja i asimilacije.


Pročitaj knjigu, po mogućnosti tekst i poslušaj predavanije.


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A jesi mi dao link ti ko Amer gdje je gusarski pdf, izgleda zanimljiva knjiga.

Ali mislim da je ovo bezveze jedino se po meni može govoriti o 4 nacije u sj. Americi koje se onda mogu podijeliti po regiji, porijeklu, vjeri itd

Indijanci-domorodačko stanovništvo
Amerikanci-bijeli europski doseljenici
Afro-amerikanci-potomci robova
Hispanci-mestici

Onda se naravno tipa White Nation može podijeliti na podgrupe koje se dosta razlikuju Teksašani i ostala ekipa "Divljeg Zapada", Jenkiji, Južnjaci itd. kao i ostale grupe.


Pa dao bih gusarski, da ga ima.


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Amerikanci (domoroci), Euroamerikanci, Afroamerikanci i Azoamerikanci.


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Odakle ti Azeoamerikanci oni su više manjina dok su Hispanci autohtoni u JZ SAD-u taj je dio čak nekada i pripadao Meksiku.
Dobro bilo je Kineza na Zapadu već u 19. st. koji su radili na prugama.

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Amerikanci primaju ili dovode svjetsku elitu iz nauke, sporta, umjetnosti i td.

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Dragan Primorac imenovan prvim veleposlanikom američkog Sveučilišta Penn State

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Odlukom vodstva američkog Sveučilišta Penn State, prof.dr. Dragan Primorac imenovan je veleposlanikom ovog sveučilišta i ponio je “titulu” Global Ambassador of the Penn State University. Time je postao prvom osobom u povijesti ovog Sveučilišta osnovanog 1855. s navedenom titulom. Odluku o imenovanju priopćio je prorektor Sveučilišta Penn State, prof.dr. Michael Adewumi, zadužen za Global Programs, te je istaknuo da će na svečanoj ceremoniji 29.veljače 2016. predsjednik Sveučilišta Eric J. Barron prof.dr. Primorcu osobno uručiti odluku o imenovanju.

http://www.vecernji.hr/hrvatska/dragan- ... te-1052670

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Definitivno postoji, ali ne znam, idu li ovom granicom i da ih ima 11. Možda 5-6. Njujorčani i Bostonci i stanovnici San Franciska i Seattlea i Chicaga i Las Vegasa pripadaju jednoj naciji.
Srednji zapad jedna, Jug jedna, Rust Belt jedna, Texas je zasebost za sebe i tako dalje...

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