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PostPostano: pet srp 12, 2019 3:27 pm 
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Mala neobvezna tema ako neko sa foruma ima ovaj uređaj. Ali kako često ljudi kažu "nemam ja šta kriti". "ne radim ja ništa protiv zakona".

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Outsourced spying: Google admits ‘language experts’ listen to ‘some’ assistant recordings

Published time: 12 Jul, 2019 01:45
Edited time: 12 Jul, 2019 08:35

Google’s smart speakers are recording users when they least expect it, according to temp worker language experts hired by the company to listen to the snippets – which include some of users’ most private moments.
Google is able to claim it does not listen to the recordings Google Home devices are constantly generating only because it contracts the job out to temp workers. These “language experts,” as they are called, use a collaborative system built by the company to share and analyze sound snippets, assisting Google’s AI assistant in deciphering the nuances of human speech.

While Google emphasizes that it anonymizes the snippets, replacing the user’s name with a serial number, Belgian broadcaster VRT found that matching a voice snippet with its owner was not very difficult, given the ample supply of addresses and sensitive information found on the recordings they were given. They listened to over 1,000 excerpts supplied by a Dutch contractor and discovered that more than 15 percent of them - 153 recordings in all - were recorded without the user’s knowledge.

In one “accidental” recording, a woman was in “definite distress,” the temp said. Other snippets included sex and pillow talk, fights, and professional phone calls packed with private information. While employees are instructed to treat account numbers and passwords as “sensitive,” they’re left to their own devices everywhere else, leading to potential errors in judgment…like leaking to the media, according to Google, which condemned the contractor who spoke to VRT while fiercely defending its own practices.

Insisting that Google has safeguards in place to prevent “false accepts” – recordings initiated without the user’s knowledge – Google Search project manager David Monsees wrote in a Thursday blog post that the use of “language experts” is “necessary to creating products like the Google Assistant” and claimed the experts only review 0.2 percent of audio fragments recorded by the device. Monsees warned the leaker that “Security and Privacy Response teams have been activated on the issue, are investigating, and …will take action.”

When Bloomberg reported that Amazon’s Alexa was using thousands of humans to transcribe and annotate recordings, many made without the user’s knowledge, Google gloated that its superior Home Assistant anonymized and distorted audio snippets. However, the recordings VRT heard were not distorted at all. Google Home snippets were “clear,” and Google Assistant, the cellphone app version, produced “telephone quality” audio.

Google Home owners who expect the company to respect their privacy might be wise to consult the history of the company, whose founders have made their distaste for the concept of privacy abundantly clear: an attempt to set up an AI “ethics council” lasted less than a week before collapsing, and a study published earlier this week showed over 1,000 apps for Google's Android operating system collect data even when users deny them permission to do so. Earlier this year, users of the company's Nest Secure home security system discovered the device had a hidden microphone when a downloadable update activated the feature.

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PostPostano: pet srp 12, 2019 3:46 pm 
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Pričaš o kreditima, sutradan dobiješ mail od banke s ponudama. A ne jave se mjesecima unatrag... Ovo mi se desilo četiri puta, a ne jednom. Scenarij je uvijek isti. Prvo pričaš, sutradan mail.

Ili pričaš o pripremi zimnice, na YouTube ti se kroz izbor pjesama pojave savjeti pri kuhanju povrća, izbor tegli... Nikakve veze s mojim ranijim pretragama.

Testirao sam ovo namjerno više puta od tad. Da rade to, i očito prodaju snimke tvrtkama. Čak bih rekao da snimaju non stop a ne kad najmanje očekujete. Možda se vratim na 3G telefon.

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 Naslov: Re: Google’s smart speakers are recording users when they least expect it
PostPostano: pet srp 12, 2019 3:49 pm 
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Jesi li to pretraživao u Google ?

To jedino može tvoj Internet provider raditi. On zna tvoju kućnu adresu i mail adresu.

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 Naslov: Re: Google’s smart speakers are recording users when they least expect it
PostPostano: pet srp 12, 2019 3:55 pm 
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Jesi li to pretraživao u Google ?

To jedino može tvoj Internet provider raditi. On zna tvoju kućnu adresu i mail adresu.


Ako ti je Wi Fi uključen, može i Google.

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 Naslov: Re: Google’s smart speakers are recording users when they least expect it
PostPostano: pet srp 12, 2019 3:56 pm 
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Banke ne šalju mail sa ponudama. Ne znam o čemu pričaš.

Google bi morao napraviti transcript stranog jezika. Iz tog transcripta izvaditi što im treba. I poslati tvoje "interese" zajedno sa tvojom mail adresom trećoj strani. Nije još zabilježen slučaj da su tako daleko otišli. Možda. To je moguće samo ako imaš Gmail account.

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Zadnja izmjena: BBC; pet srp 12, 2019 4:00 pm; ukupno mijenjano 2 put/a.

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Banke ne šalju mail sa ponudama. Ne znam o čemu pričaš.


Onda živiš u šumi. I to je za ljude.

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https://federated.withgoogle.com/

Trenira google svoj AI. Da li su napravili kiks pa su podatci dostupni, malo vjerovatno ali moguce. I ovaj google bot sto je na forumu, ne samo da indexira za pretrazivac, vec vjerovatno i konta sta se prica ovdje.

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 Naslov: Re: Google’s smart speakers are recording users when they least expect it
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Bit cu kratak je napisao/la:
https://federated.withgoogle.com/

Trenira google svoj AI. Da li su napravili kiks pa su podatci dostupni, malo vjerovatno ali moguce. I ovaj google bot sto je na forumu, ne samo da indexira za pretrazivac, vec vjerovatno i konta sta se prica ovdje.


Jasno da Google prati sve pa i ovaj maleni forum, ali tu smo gdje smo. Ne treba paničariti, povjerljive razgovore po mogućnosti obaviti u prostoriji bez smart uređaja koji mogu snimati glas. Takvo je vrijeme došlo. Rođeni smo u komunizmu, nije ovo šamar iz vedra neba...

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 Naslov: Re: Google’s smart speakers are recording users when they least expect it
PostPostano: ned srp 14, 2019 4:52 pm 
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Gledam emisiju na YouTube o grčkoj povijesti, nekih 40 minuta kasnije sa Quora digest dobijam mail, vole li Albanci više Srbe ili Grke? A čak nisam ni išao na taj website danas. Nisam se prijavio ni na YouTube. Dakle, IP je dovoljan.

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buenos aires je napisao/la:
Gledam emisiju na YouTube o grčkoj povijesti, nekih 40 minuta kasnije sa Quora digest dobijam mail, vole li Albanci više Srbe ili Grke? A čak nisam ni išao na taj website danas. Nisam se prijavio ni na YouTube. Dakle, IP je dovoljan.


LOL i meni jutros iskočila quora s istim pitanjem =)) pardon, meni je iskočilo vole li Grci više Srbe ili Albance.


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dudu je napisao/la:
buenos aires je napisao/la:
Gledam emisiju na YouTube o grčkoj povijesti, nekih 40 minuta kasnije sa Quora digest dobijam mail, vole li Albanci više Srbe ili Grke? A čak nisam ni išao na taj website danas. Nisam se prijavio ni na YouTube. Dakle, IP je dovoljan.


LOL i meni jutros iskočila quora s istim pitanjem =)) pardon, meni je iskočilo vole li Grci više Srbe ili Albance.


Nekakav chain mail, ili promidžba teme... moguće da je morbidna koncidencija. Bolje da sam dobio sedmicu na lotou.

Kad je već slučajnost.

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Jeste sigurni da u mailu imate pravi Quora URL ?
Čini mi se da vi imate malware na računalu. Manje visite na pornografiji. I pazite kakve dodatke instalirate u browser.

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Cookies tracking. Ta extension vam briše sve cookies od jedne web stranice kad je tab od te stranice zatvoren.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... dddf?hl=en
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... ifgaodjagh

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Jeste sigurni da u mailu imate pravi Quora URL ?
Čini mi se da vi imate malware na računalu. Manje visite na pornografiji. I pazite kakve dodatke instalirate u browser.


Testirao. Je pravi, vodi na quora.com.

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 Naslov: Re: Google’s smart speakers are recording users when they least expect it
PostPostano: uto srp 30, 2019 12:18 am 
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Pridružen/a: sri sij 04, 2012 12:08 am
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iskoči mi reklama "bježite od vrućina u planine?..." ovi definitivno snimaju i prate sve.


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PostPostano: uto srp 30, 2019 12:29 am 
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Google ima totalan pristup vašim telefonima. Bez obzira koliko klikali po opcijama i blokirali. I to sve stoji skriveno, i nejasno objašnjeno, u uvjetima korištenja.
Mogu instalirati Apps koje hoće na vašem telefonu bez da vas pitaju i da vam kažu. Mogu izbrisati Apps koje hoće.

Jedini način kako se to može blokirati je da se telefon kriptira.

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uopće ne sumnjam u to što govoriš, da sam na nekom položaju dobro bi se zamislio šta radim i pričam u blizini ikakvih uređaja, još malo snimat će sa hladnjakom i klima uređajem.


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s one strane dinare je napisao/la:
uopće ne sumnjam u to što govoriš, da sam na nekom položaju dobro bi se zamislio šta radim i pričam u blizini ikakvih uređaja, još malo snimat će sa hladnjakom i klima uređajem.




Zakasnio si, to već postoji.. :D

Smart techology je ništa drugo do spy/control technology.

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