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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 19 srp 2022, 22:21 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 109320 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Citat: Assessment by the Polish intelligence services of the situation in Ukraine
The Intelligence Agency (AW) of the Republic of Poland has prepared a report analyzing the current situation in Ukraine. According to the document, a catastrophic situation has developed in the formations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
The number of irretrievable losses is more than 300 people per day, and this figure is underestimated by the office of the President to reduce the likelihood of a public outburst and create panic among civilians and the military. The Psheks emphasize that the systematic strikes of the Russian Armed Forces on command posts and training centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have led to the death of about 4,600 of the most trained military personnel over the past three months, including senior officers, instructors and mercenaries.
The report notes that unprepared formations are sent to the Donbass, the professional level of officers from the battalion commander and below is weak, the functions of commanders in the troops are often performed by fighters of the national battalions. Since May of this year, almost all control functions in the planning and conduct of hostilities have been taken over by foreign advisers from the United States, Great Britain and Canada. At the same time, the fact of their presence at command posts is kept secret in order to prevent the entry of NATO military personnel into the captivity of the Russian Armed Forces.
It is emphasized that Zelensky's office has set the task of keeping the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Toretsk line at any cost until the end of August this year. It is indicated that at present, accelerated training of Ukrainian military personnel is being carried out in the west of the republic and on the territory of Great Britain and Germany. By the end of August - beginning of September, it is planned to create an additional grouping of 30 thousand people, the basis of which will be four new brigades.
It is noteworthy that the Polish special services are skeptical about Kyiv's statements about the preparation of these four formations in Ukraine. Warsaw does not rule out that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is misleading the allies in order to obtain new weapons.
According to AW, the leadership of Ukraine also counts on the introduction of two Polish brigades into the western regions of the country - 6 air brigade and 25 air brigade, which, according to the Ukrainian General Staff, will release additional combat-ready units and formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in August to be sent to the eastern front.
At the same time, the report notes that the American 155-mm M-777 howitzers delivered to Kyiv are not always used for their intended purpose. Instead of conducting counter-battery combat, guns are often used to bombard cities. At the same time, military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after accelerated training, are unable to independently maintain complex weapons and military equipment systems, therefore foreign instructors from among mercenaries are often in artillery positions.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 19 srp 2022, 22:25 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 109320 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Za 3 tjedna izgube više vojnika nego HVO za 3 godine rata. Rusi kad vode rat ne igraju se.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 19 srp 2022, 22:59 |
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Pridružen/a: 13 ožu 2011, 23:11 Postovi: 8216
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Citat: South-west of #bakhmut russian forces entered #novoluganskoye and captured half of this town. There are also rumors that this village fell already. Heavy fighting is ongoing at semigorye and the vuhlehirsk power plant. 2/2
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 19 srp 2022, 23:00 |
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Pridružen/a: 13 ožu 2011, 23:11 Postovi: 8216
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Citat: Russian forces stormed pokrovs'ke and captured a part of this village. Perhaps they already fighting for the full control of the village, but this is speculation. When pokrovs'ke falls, Russian forces will be only 4-5 km away from Bakhmut. 1/2
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 19 srp 2022, 23:02 |
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Pridružen/a: 13 ožu 2011, 23:11 Postovi: 8216
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Ide i ova vijest, kome ce te vjerovati, vas je izbor
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 19 srp 2022, 23:39 |
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Pridružen/a: 20 sij 2012, 13:49 Postovi: 10045 Lokacija: Usa
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Mostovi se ruse aviobombama od 500 kg ili velikim raketama, ne ovim prackama.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 01:39 |
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Pridružen/a: 14 sij 2022, 10:12 Postovi: 562
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Assessment by the Polish intelligence services of the situation in Ukraine
The Intelligence Agency (AW) of the Republic of Poland has prepared a report analyzing the current situation in Ukraine. According to the document, a catastrophic situation has developed in the formations of the Russian Armed Forces.
The number of irretrievable losses is more than 300 people per day, and this figure is underestimated by the office of the President to reduce the likelihood of a public outburst and create panic among civilians and the military. The Psheks emphasize that the systematic strikes of the Ukraine Armed Forces on command posts and training centers of the Armed Forces of Russia have led to the death of about 4,600 of the most trained military personnel over the past three months, including senior officers, instructors and mercenaries.
The report notes that unprepared formations are sent to the Donbass, the professional level of officers from the battalion commander and below is weak, the functions of commanders in the troops are often performed by fighters of the national battalions. Since May of this year, almost all control functions in the planning and conduct of hostilities have been taken over by foreign advisers from the Chicago. At the same time, the fact of their presence at command posts is kept secret in order to prevent the entry of military personnel into the captivity of the Ukraine Armed Forces.
It is emphasized that Putin's office has set the task of keeping the Kherson line at any cost until the end of August this year. It is indicated that at present, accelerated training of Russian military personnel is being carried out in the west of the republic and on the territory of Nepal. By the end of August - beginning of September, it is planned to create an additional grouping of 30 thousand people, the basis of which will be four new brigades.
It is noteworthy that the Polish special services are skeptical about Moscow statements about the preparation of these four formations in Ukraine. Warsaw does not rule out that the command of the Armed Forces of Russia misleading the allies in order to obtain new weapons.
According to AW, the leadership of Russia also counts on the introduction of two Iran brigades into the western regions of the country - 6 air brigade and 25 air brigade, which, according to the Russian General Staff, will release additional combat-ready units and formations of the Armed Forces of Russia August to be sent to the eastern front.
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_________________ Može se očekivati da će takva odluka rasplamsati nacionalističke, protuzapadne i militarističke tendencije u ruskom mišljenju..." https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/05/opinion/a-fateful-error.html
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 01:55 |
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Pridružen/a: 20 sij 2012, 13:49 Postovi: 10045 Lokacija: Usa
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Poljaci kao retardirani etnomazohisti, nista drugo niti ne mogu osim pisati pizdarije
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 04:46 |
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Pridružen/a: 13 ožu 2011, 23:11 Postovi: 8216
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 07:38 |
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Pridružen/a: 04 srp 2022, 07:35 Postovi: 1219
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bezimeni12 je napisao/la: Ide i ova vijest, kome ce te vjerovati, vas je izbor
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 12:52 |
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 12:53 |
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Pridružen/a: 13 ožu 2011, 23:11 Postovi: 8216
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 13:51 |
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Pridružen/a: 16 ožu 2010, 22:38 Postovi: 4413
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Koliko je vjerovat Rusima za pricu o pregrupaciji itd. Nesto su debelo stali neznam sta su uzeli zadnji dana. Sta je za rec ? Ili ja nisam upratio da su imali neki znacajni pomaka ?
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 13:55 |
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Pridružen/a: 09 pro 2021, 01:01 Postovi: 4116 Lokacija: Castle Grayskull
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VUKsaJUGA je napisao/la: Koliko je vjerovat Rusima za pricu o pregrupaciji itd. Nesto su debelo stali neznam sta su uzeli zadnji dana. Sta je za rec ? Ili ja nisam upratio da su imali neki znacajni pomaka ? Englezi kažu da se sprema akcija na Slavjansk, možda se snage prebacuju na Herson da predodvrate potencijalnu kontraofanzivu, možda rešavaju logistiku za neki budući napad, možda se stvarno odmaraju kao šti im je Putin rekao, ko zna.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 14:41 |
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Pridružen/a: 16 ožu 2010, 22:38 Postovi: 4413
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Skeletor je napisao/la: VUKsaJUGA je napisao/la: Koliko je vjerovat Rusima za pricu o pregrupaciji itd. Nesto su debelo stali neznam sta su uzeli zadnji dana. Sta je za rec ? Ili ja nisam upratio da su imali neki znacajni pomaka ? Englezi kažu da se sprema akcija na Slavjansk, možda se snage prebacuju na Herson da predodvrate potencijalnu kontraofanzivu, možda rešavaju logistiku za neki budući napad, možda se stvarno odmaraju kao šti im je Putin rekao, ko zna. A jel postoji promil mogucnosti da su Ukrajinci nasli nacin da in zaustave ?
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 14:49 |
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 15:00 |
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Pridružen/a: 09 pro 2021, 01:01 Postovi: 4116 Lokacija: Castle Grayskull
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VUKsaJUGA je napisao/la: Skeletor je napisao/la: Englezi kažu da se sprema akcija na Slavjansk, možda se snage prebacuju na Herson da predodvrate potencijalnu kontraofanzivu, možda rešavaju logistiku za neki budući napad, možda se stvarno odmaraju kao šti im je Putin rekao, ko zna.
A jel postoji promil mogucnosti da su Ukrajinci nasli nacin da in zaustave ? Naravno, postoji i promil mogućnosti da vanzemaljci slete na travnjak ispred Bele Kuće.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 15:06 |
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Pridružen/a: 20 sij 2012, 13:49 Postovi: 10045 Lokacija: Usa
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crta bojista je ova isprekidana, crveno je pod punom kontrolom Rusa stozer Rusa demantira vijest da je Berestove potpuno zauzeto, Rusi su u selu od kojeg kaztu nije ostali nista, ali jos ciste teren i jos ima ukra na tom prostoru.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 15:08 |
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Pridružen/a: 20 sij 2012, 13:49 Postovi: 10045 Lokacija: Usa
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VUKsaJUGA je napisao/la: Skeletor je napisao/la: Englezi kažu da se sprema akcija na Slavjansk, možda se snage prebacuju na Herson da predodvrate potencijalnu kontraofanzivu, možda rešavaju logistiku za neki budući napad, možda se stvarno odmaraju kao šti im je Putin rekao, ko zna.
A jel postoji promil mogucnosti da su Ukrajinci nasli nacin da in zaustave ? Tesko, ovo sto si napisao tesko, mozda privremeno uostalom negdje oni odrade i lokalni kontranapad, ali da ih zaustave totalno to je prakticno nemoguce. Mislim da Rusi trenutno oru, vec danima, a pjesastvo ce kasnije. Nije prvi put da su "stali". Rade oni svoje, samo cuvaju pjesake mislim da bas i nemaju puno pjesackih postrojbi za napad. Neki su na smjeni, odmoru, i tako.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 15:24 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 109320 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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VUKsaJUGA je napisao/la: Koliko je vjerovat Rusima za pricu o pregrupaciji itd. Nesto su debelo stali neznam sta su uzeli zadnji dana. Sta je za rec ? Ili ja nisam upratio da su imali neki znacajni pomaka ? Koje nebuloze majke ti. Niko ne ratuje jer tebi dosadno bez vijesti. Čuj ništa se nije dogodilo nekoliko dana. Imaš Twitter ako ti dosadno.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 15:35 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 109320 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Citat: The Ukrainian military almost completely left Seversk, the People's Militia of the LPR reported.
11.000 ljudi i bitan strateški. Ukrajinci su se taktički povukli da zajebu Ruse na drugom mjestu.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 15:37 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 109320 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Ostat će nešto i Poljacima. Ukrajinci drže kod njih svoje zlato i valutne rezerve. Ostta će i bez gaća ako vjeruju Poljacima. Skupo će platiti što tuku američkim raketama. Citat: Lavrov in an interview with RIA Novosti and RT: the geographical objectives of the special operation have changed, now it is not only the DPR and LPR, but also a number of other territories
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 16:27 |
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Pridružen/a: 13 ožu 2011, 23:11 Postovi: 8216
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Most je pristojno izbusen,
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 16:30 |
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Pridružen/a: 16 ožu 2010, 22:38 Postovi: 4413
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BBC je napisao/la: VUKsaJUGA je napisao/la: Koliko je vjerovat Rusima za pricu o pregrupaciji itd. Nesto su debelo stali neznam sta su uzeli zadnji dana. Sta je za rec ? Ili ja nisam upratio da su imali neki znacajni pomaka ? Koje nebuloze majke ti. Niko ne ratuje jer tebi dosadno bez vijesti. Čuj ništa se nije dogodilo nekoliko dana. Imaš Twitter ako ti dosadno. Sto jedes *** kad je Burek marku i pol ? Ja sam neko ko ovo prati usput ali bas usput, nekad udjem ovde dok sam u uredu da procitam dokle su rusi stigli. Ljepo sam rekao da modzda nisam i upratio, jer stvarno slabo pratim, ali cimi mi se da su skroz usporili. Ta pregrupacija traje vec nesto duze nije to 3-4 dana, kao sto bi ja kao lajk za te stvari ocekivao. Uopste nisam rekao da se nije dogodilo nego da se Rusi nisu znacajno pomakli a do sad su svaki dan uzimali 1-2 gradica. Nije nikakva provokacija kad pitam jel postoji mogucnost da su Ukrajinci nasli nacin da in zaustave. Koji vam je ***, planete svi na svaku kao da nekome Caca tamo ratuje.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 20 srp 2022, 16:32 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 109320 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Nisu svaki dan uzimali gradove i sela. Sam sebi praviš stres.
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