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by Sean McLachlan (RSS feed) on Jan 22nd 2012 at 11:00AM

For several years now, European archaeologists have been in a furor over a supposed lost civilization in Bosnia that built the biggest pyramids in the world. Scholars have dismissed the claims, made by Bosnian-American businessman Semir Osmanagic, as pseudoscience, yet he's getting funding from the Bosnian government and was just granted permission to excavate over the objections of the country's archaeological establishment.

Osmanagic is convinced a large hill overlooking the town of Visoko near the Bosnian capital Sarajevo is a pyramid from an lost civilization dating to about 12,000 years ago, when the region was experiencing the Ice Age. The hill is indeed roughly pyramid-shaped, at least the half that faces the town. The other half is a bit lumpy. In fact, if you look at it with Google Earth, it doesn't look like a pyramid at all. Geologists say it's a natural formation and that there are several like it in the region; Osmanagic says many of those hills are pyramids too.

To prove his point Osmanagic set up the "Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun" and since 2005 has been fighting for permission to excavate. The permit was granted, but then it was revoked for fear the excavations could damage an existing archaeological site on the top of the hill. This is a medieval fort with Roman foundations built atop a Neolithic settlement. Now permission has been granted again and the work will continue.

A victory for independent science against the narrow vision of academia? Not necessarily.

Looking at the photos on Osmanagic's website on the pyramids in Bosnia, I don't see anything indicating there's a pyramid there. Most of the supposedly worked stone looks like other natural formations I've seen, the so-called "secret tunnels" could be from any era, and the few examples of obviously worked stone could just as easily be medieval. In fact, Byzantine records say there was a town here in the Middle Ages and it has not been found. The Bosnian pyramid team may be destroying a real archaeological site in order to create a fake one.
Some of Osmanagic's actions seem a bit fishy too. He claimed to have assembled a team of experts to work on the site and give him advice, including famous Egyptologist Dr. Zahi Hawass, but many of them said they had never agreed to work on the site. Some of them said Osmanagic never even contacted them.

In an angry letter to Archaeology Magazine, Dr. Hawass wrote, "The discoverer of the "pyramid" in Bosnia, Semir Osmanagic, who claims that a hill near the Bosnia River is a man-made structure built before the end of the last Ice Age, is not a specialist on pyramids. His previous claim that the Maya are from the Pleiades and Atlantis should be enough for any educated reader."

The claim has certainly created a tourist industry in the previously sleepy town, and it's sparking interest in Bosnia's past. So where's the harm?

In an article in Science, Bosnian archaeologists lamented that funding and attention were going to the fanciful pyramid theory while the nation's real heritage remains underfunded and underprotected. Some have even reported being threatened for speaking out against the project. The Bosnian Pyramids have become a matter of national pride for a nation still feeling the wounds of the bitter war of the 1990s. Osmanagic has made Bosnia the cradle of civilization, or as he terms it, "supercivilization".

This is the sort of nationalistic chest-thumping that got the Balkans into trouble in the first place. Osmanagic is playing with fire.

Friško. Nema podkategorije za arheologiju. A svakako je više politika.

Inače nevezano za ovo, davno sam primjetio ali nisam htio zvučati silly.

Svaki članak koji pročitam na drugoj web stranici pa ga kopiram ovdje i ponovo čitam totalno je drugi osjećaj. Kao da ovaj forum sa svojom theme ne dozvoljava da se izvuče maksimum iz dužih članaka. Odbija čovjeka od čitanja dužih tekstova. Dok ga na originalnim stranicama (uglavnom) čovjek pročita svako slovo sa uživanjem.

Za kratke komentare je onako OK.

O oni kreteni u Visokom i dalje kopaju i traže "bošnjački identitet" ispod zemlje.

Šeki, jesi i ti piramidiot ? Priznaj, nije tko strašno.

Dobro. Još jedna grana znanosti zbog koje znanstvenici svijeta izbjegvajau Vartu. Meni odgovara.

I što mislite. Hoće li Osmanagić iskopati ispod planine neke Bošnjake, "temeljiti" narod ?
Izbrisao je Vartu sa svih karata svjetskih arheoloških institucija. Više ne smiju ni doći u Vartu jer ovaj to na stranici prezentira kao da su priznali da postoje piramide u Visokom.

Dragi BBC, jesi i ti naivan - pa normalno da nece...

Bosnjaci nisu temeljiti narod, to su ti Dijaserci...

Nema tu naivnosti. Federalno ministarstvo sve nade polaže u Osmanagića. Situacija je vrlo ozbiljna.

Ovo je vrlo bitno. Bošnjaci uporno troše porezni novac Hrvata na svoje šizofrene gluposti.

Pogledaj malo bolje sliku i vidjeti ćeš na njoj piramidu, kakvo je ovo podjebavanje...ccc

bolje im je da stanu s kopanjem, bojim se mogli bi iskopat Srbe pored ameba.

Ima nekih pola godine malo čitam materijale u vezi Osmanagića i tih "piramida". I naletim na stranicu Ahmeda Bosnića.

Onako, misterije i usput zarađuje od izrade natalnih horoskopa, reklama na stranici i prodaji svačeg nečeg što ti pomogne da budeš pametan i dugo živiš. Nebitno to.

Sad kako sam naručivao i pročitao sve njegove knjige u Jugi odlučim pročitati to sve na web stranici.

I vrlo lako uz pomoć Google pronađem da izmišlja stvari. Kad sam čitao te knjige davno naravno nije bilo načina da se neke stvari provjeravaju. A on zaradio veliku lovu na tim knjigama. Većinom prepisivanja od drugih autora.

No, jedna stvar je veoma bitna. Za razliku od Osmanagića Ahmed Bosnić je veliki narator i zna napisati da je zanimljivo čitati.
Osmanagić pored što je prevrtjivac i lažov nema ni tu moć.

Koliko je vremena prošlo ,mogli su sagradit piramidu ...
A još je nisu otkopali.

E onda kada otkopaju srpske kosti onda nastaje belaj , sjetimo se samo riječi patrijarha Pavla :

"Gde su srpske kosti tu mora da je i Srbija"

Znači pazite se što kopate

Ko će im para dat za kamen ? Ode cijeli proračun ******** u dim ako je krenu graditi .

Bojim se da će to završiti samo sa jednim ishodom. Sve vodi tome.

Oni tuneli će se urušiti na one omladince sa radne akcije i ljudi će poginuti.
Kopaju brdo i tunele a nikakvu profesionalnu zaštitu od urušavanja ne prave. Kao i Kinezi u svojim rudnicima, podupri sa onim što ti pri ruci.

Ima ga u Hercegovini na bacanje .
Ma kad je to "otkriveno",dosad su mogli cijelu otkopat,pronać mumiju Semira Osmanagića III i zakopat ju .
A ja još uvijek vidim brdo,a ne piramidu.

To su ti bolan piramide, kad si ti vidio piramidu da se urusila?

Semir mason:

Osmanagić se koristi vrlo perfidnim i pokvarenim metodama. To radi svih ovih godina. Zato stručnjaci samo jednom dođu i više nikada. Puno će zbog ovih gluposti patiti ostala arheološka nalazišta u BiH. Ljudi nisu ni svjesni štete koju prave.

Osmanagić i ta fondacija naruče neke eksperte za zvuk, energetska polja itd...itd... Plate im da urade neko istraživanje i odmah ih stave na web stranicu kao da su ovi priznali da piramide tu postoje. Jer ako su ga uslikali tu, odmah to koriste kao "vidite on misli da tu postoje piramide".

Zbog Osmanagića će patiti sva druga nalazišta jer nitko od tih stručnjaka više neće htjeti dolaziti u BiH. Ljudi paze na svoju reputaciju, čitav život je stvaraju.