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I stari judaizam je to prakticirao, šta misliš odakle priča o žrtvovanju Izaka?


Židovi su etnčki Kananci. Oni dan danas govore kananskim jezikom kao materinjim.
Lingvistika, materijalna kultura, genetika etc. je identična kod Hebreja i ostalih naroda iz sjeverozapadne semitske skupine takozvanih "Kananaca".
Ovo je uglavnom općeprihvaćena teza s kojom se slaže i izraelska historiografija.
Kananci nisu istrebljeni, njihovi potomci danas žive po cijelom Levantu.


Dokazano je i doseljenje Židova s juga, vjerojatno s prostora Sinaja.
Mix Kaananaca i Egipćana.

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Odakle židovima kananski jezik kao materinji ako im je to "susjedni" narod, a ne vlastiti?
Odakle im ista genetika i materijalna kultura?


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To se vidi i u Bibliji da su Židovi otpadali od judaizma i štovali bogove susjednih naroda.
Mislim ove stvari su jasne svakome ko je otvorio Bibliju.


Nisu otpadali nego je Jahve bio jedan od nižih bogova u semitskom panteonu.
Sve to su bili i židovski bogovi do otprilike 500 godina prije Krista i progona.
Tek u progonstvo judaizam se razvija u monoteističku religiju.
U biti Židovi su počeli štovati isključivo Jahvu tek kad su izgubili kraljevstvo.

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Odakle židovima kananski jezik kao materinji ako im je to "susjedni" narod, a ne vlastiti?
Odakle im ista genetika i materijalna kultura?


Odakle Bugarima slavenski jezik kao maternji?
Vjerojatno isti proces.

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To se vidi i u Bibliji da su Židovi otpadali od judaizma i štovali bogove susjednih naroda.
Mislim ove stvari su jasne svakome ko je otvorio Bibliju.


Nisu otpadali nego je Jahve bio jedan od nižih bogova u semitskom panteonu.
Sve to su bili i židovski bogovi do otprilike 500 godina prije Krista i progona.
Tek u progonstvo judaizam se razvija u monoteističku religiju.
U biti Židovi su počeli štovati isključivo Jahvu tek kad su izgubili kraljevstvo.

Ok, znači ne vjeruješ u Bibliju nego u woke teorije. Svak bira u što će vjerovati


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Nije to woke teorija, woke teorija je da su Egipćani bili crnci pa time da je Isus bio tamnoput.

Nego kako ti misliš da se odvijao proces prelaska na monoteizam?
Židovi na zasjedanju u podrumu hotela odlučili da od sada vjeruju samo u Jahvu.
To je proces koji je trajao stoljećima.

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Nije to woke teorija, woke teorija je da su Egipćani bili crnci pa time da je Isus bio tamnoput.

Nego kako ti misliš da se odvijao proces prelaska na monoteizam?
Židovi na zasjedanju u podrumu hotela odlučili da od sada vjeruju samo u Jahvu.
To je proces koji je trajao stoljećima.

Pa vjerujem da je bilo onako kako piše u Bibliji, da je judaizam vezan isključivo za Jahvu, a da su Židovi otpadali s jahvine religije i štovali bogove susjednih naroda. Tu nema puno rasprave i Biblija je potpuno jasna.
Po toj tvojoj nebiblijskoj priči je Mojsije štovao u isto vrijeme Baala i Jahvu.
I nema tu tvog i mog mišljenja, postoji Biblija i nebiblijski narativi, teorije itd.
Samo je stvar odabira


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Jahve je bio nacionalni bog.
Prije Babilonskog ropstva imaš ostatke egipatskih kipića i sličnih božanstava po nalazištima.
Nakon prekida BR i uspostave perzijske vlasti toga više nema.

Cijela priča je i da su Židovi bili loši štovatelji, otpadali su od vjere, pa ih je Bog kaznio.


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Jahve je bio nacionalni bog.
Prije Babilonskog ropstva imaš ostatke egipatskih kipića i sličnih božanstava po nalazištima.
Nakon prekida BR i uspostave perzijske vlasti toga više nema.

Cijela priča je i da su Židovi bili loši štovatelji, otpadali su od vjere, pa ih je Bog kaznio.

Oprosti, ali nije baš najjasnije što si htio reći s ovim napisanim, da vjeruješ u ono što piše u Bibliji ili ove nebiblijske teorije.
Malo se nepovezano izražavaš pa ako se možeš malo preciznije i jasnije izjasniti.
Najprije si napisao da je Jahve nacionalni bog, a odmah nakon toga spominješ egipatske kipiće, možeš li to malo pojasniti
zašto si povezao to dvoje i koji je zaključak, malo širi kontekst.
To da se Izrael nakon babilonske kazne očisto od poganstva i obnovio vjeru je poznato iz Biblije, nema ništa sporno.


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Nisu otpadali nego je Jahve bio jedan od nižih bogova u semitskom panteonu...

I danas Ga ne priznaju. Ništa novog.


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To se vidi i u Bibliji da su Židovi otpadali od judaizma i štovali bogove susjednih naroda.
Mislim ove stvari su jasne svakome ko je otvorio Bibliju.


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The origin of Qabbalism is a legitimate subject for controversy. Early initiates of the Qabbalistic Mysteries believed that its principles were first taught by God to a school of His angels before the fall of man. The angels later communicated the secrets to Adam, so that through the knowledge gained from an understanding of its principles fallen humanity might regain its lost a estate. The Angel Raziel was dispatched from heaven to instruct Adam in the mysteries of the Qabbalah. Different angels were employed to initiate the succeeding patriarchs in this difficult science. Tophiel was the teacher of Shem, Raphael of Isaac, Metatron of Moses, and Michael of David. (See Faiths of the World.)

Christian D. Ginsburg has written: "From Adam it passed over to Noah, and then to Abraham, the friend of God, who emigrated with it to Egypt, where the patriarch allowed a portion of this mysterious doctrine to ooze out. It was in this way that the Egyptians obtained some knowledge of it, and the other Eastern nations could introduce it into their philosophical systems. Moses, who was learned in all the wisdom of Egypt, was first initiated into it in the land of his birth, but became most proficient in it during his wanderings in the wilderness, when he not only devoted to it the leisure hours of the whole forty years, but received lessons in it from one of the angels. * * * Moses also initiated the seventy Elders into the secrets of this doctrine and they again transmitted them from hand to hand. Of all who formed the unbroken line of tradition, David and Solomon were most initiated into the Kabbalah." 


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Strange and mysterious name to give to the spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!


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In his celebrated and controversial guide to the degrees of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, Albert Pike devotes a considerable amount of space to Kabbalah, calling it, among other things, “The key of the occult sciences” (p.626). Reading his account of Cabala, in the compendious chapter devoted to the esoteric 28th Degree, ‘Knight of the Sun’, there can be no doubt that he was an ardent devotee of sacred geometry, numerology and gematria.

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The same diversity and the same imagination in the spiritual techniques of Sufism: the search for God through symbolism passes, for some Sufis, through music or dance which, they say, transcends thought; this is what Jalâl ad-Dîn ar-Rûmî (1207-1273), known as Mevlana, the founder of the Whirling Dervishes, [iii] practiced. Among other Sufis, symbolism is an intellectual exercise in which one speculates, as do the Jews of the Kabbalah, on the numerical value of letters; sometimes, too, it is through the indefinite repetition of the invocation of the names of God that the Sufi seeks his union with Him.

Sufism thus brings to Islam a poetic and mystical dimension that one would look for in vain among the meticulous exegetes of the Qur’ânic text. This is why the Sufis are so keen on their practices, tracing them back to the Prophet himself. The Prophet Muhammad is said to have received, at the same time as the Qur’ân, esoteric revelations which he communicated only to some of his companions. Thus the Sufi masters all link their teaching to a long chain of predecessors that authenticates them.


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The Assyrian tree of life was represented by a series of nodes and crisscrossing lines. It was apparently an important religious symbol, often attended to in Assyrian palace reliefs by human or eagle-headed winged genies, or the King, and blessed or fertilized with bucket and cone. Assyriologists have not reached consensus as to the meaning of this symbol. The name “Tree of Life” has been attributed to it by modern scholarship; it is not used in the Assyrian sources. In fact, no textual evidence pertaining to the symbol is known to exist.

The Epic of Gilgamesh is a similar quest for immortality. In Babylonian religion, Etana, the King of Kish, searched for a ‘plant of birth’ to provide him with a son. This has a solid provenance of antiquity, being found in cylinder seals from the Akkadian Empire (2390–2249 BCE).


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In Greek mythology, Hera is gifted a branch growing golden apples by her grandmother Gaia, which are then planted in Hera’s Garden of the Hesperides. The dragon Ladon guards the tree(s) from all who would take the apples. The three golden apples that Aphrodite gave to Hippomenes to distract Atalanta three times during their footrace allowed him to win Atalanta’s hand in marriage. Though it is not specified in ancient myth, many assume that Aphrodite gathered those apples from Hera’s tree(s).


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Kalpavriksha (Sanskrit: कल्पवृक्ष, lit. ’age tree’, Kalpavṛkṣa) is a wish-fulfilling divine tree in religions like Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism. In Buddhism, another term, ratnavṛkṣa (jeweled tree), is also common. Its earliest descriptions are mentioned in Sanskrit literature. It is also a popular theme in Jain cosmology and Buddhism.


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In Dictionnaire Mytho-Hermetique (Paris, 1737), Antoine-Joseph Pernety, a famous alchemist, identified the tree of life with the Elixir of life and the Philosopher’s Stone.

In Eden in the East (1998), Stephen Oppenheimer suggests that a tree-worshipping culture arose in Indonesia and was diffused by the so-called “Younger Dryas” event of c. 10,900 BCE or 12,900 BP, after which the sea level rose. This culture reached China (Sichuan), then India and the Middle East. Finally the Finno-Ugric strand of this diffusion spread through Russia to Finland where the Norse myth of Yggdrasil took root.

The Celtic god Lugus was associated with the Celtic version of the tree of life.

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It is often referenced that the Satkona-Shatkona is the symbol of the Hindu deity known as Sanat Kumara (and by many other names). A “six-pointed star”, is two interlocking triangles; the upper stands for Shiva, purusha and fire, the lower for Shakti, prakriti and water Their union gives birth to Sanat Kumara, whose sacred number is six.

Of particular interest, however, is the god’s longstanding association with the number six and the shatkona yantra or “six-cornered magical diagram.” For the shatkona yantra (etched upon a metal plate) is precisely what is believed to be contained in the small casket that is taken out in procession at Kataragama.


The yantra is another product of India’s indigenous, non-discursive schools of ritual magic. As such it is intended not merely for decorative purposes but for its magical efficacy. Its etymology offers a clue to the yantra’s function and reason for being.

Like the similar terms mantra and tantra, it consists of a verbal root yam (“to hold”) plus the suffix -tra denoting instrumentality. Hence, ya(m)-tra or yantra, “a device that holds,” that is, a container — especially one designed to hold the representation or locus of energy of a spirit, or god (deva).


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In Tantric Buddhist symbolism dharmodaya is associated with the cosmic womb and the female sexual organ. As divine vagina, dharmodaya represents the source of reality, from which everything is born and dies in an endless cycle. The womb of Vajrayogini, depicted symbolically by this sign, embraces all worlds, creates and devours everything that exists. The three angles of dharmodaya are perceived in Tantric Buddhism as the three absolute aspects of the mother principle, associated with the space. The all-encompassing space is related with the source of reality and also with the sphere of reality, called dharmadhatu (Tib. cho kyi ying), which is the essence of everything and synonymous with Buddha nature.


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