I znajući da je to tako, i znajući moć njihove prljave propagande, stvarno treba biti glup kao noga pa barem ne pomisliti da iza ovog obaranja aviona stoje isti oni koji ga kao najviše oplakuju. Mislim ono, *** Bajden oplakuje nekog a kad je god došao u Kijev, krv je potekla Ukrajinom, ne za pet ili mjesec dana već odmah sutradan.

Kažu da je bilo i 23 američkih državljana na letu.

Šta im to znači "last tracked", preletjeli su čitavu Ukrajinu posle tog "last tracked"? Kako oni njih prate, pošalju im goluba pismonošu s vremena na vrijeme?

Šta im to znači "last tracked", preletjeli su čitavu Ukrajinu posle tog "last tracked"? Kako oni njih prate, pošalju im goluba pismonošu s vremena na vrijeme?

Ovo nista ne valja sto se tice sire slike... zele jos vise da ucene Rusiju i Putina, sto ovi nece prihvatiti... i na kraju ako ovako nastave moze da eksplodira do nesagledivih posledica...

Govorili su da je moguće i da je bilo preko 300 ljudi na letu, jer ti avioni primaju i do 400 ljudi. Je li to potvrđena informacija o ukupno 295 ljudi?

Izraelci ušli u Gazu, ko će prvi da ovde okači članak koji govori da su sve zakuvali cionisti i Hazari? Stavljam flašu Jelena na Karmela

To carstvo zla zvano Rusija treba izolirati i izbaciti iz vijeća bezbjednosti UN

uskomesali se "pa dje bi nasi to"

kako se u svakom postu da iscitati ko je nebeski a ko ne.
koji bolestan narod i koje bolesno podneblje.
u sve ce *** projicirati svoju borbu za nazijonalni obstanak..pa cak i u ovo rusko-ukrajinsko sranje

Kiev deployed powerful surface-to-air missile systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash – reports
Published time: July 17, 2014 18:35
Edited time: July 17, 2014 21:09 Get short URL

Itar-Tass and Interfax news agencies are citing a source familiar with the issue, who said that another battery of Buk systems is currently being prepared for shipment to Donetsk region from the Ukrainian city of Kharkov.

The Donetsk region remains the scene of heavy fighting between government troops and the forces of the opposition, which refused to recognize the regime change in Kiev and demand federalization.

A Malaysian Airlines aircraft en route from Amsterdam to Malaysia crashed in Eastern Ukraine – not far from the Russian border – on Thursday.

BUK.(RIA Novosti / Vadim Braydov)BUK.(RIA Novosti / Vadim Braydov)

There were reportedly 280 people and 15 crew members on board the Boeing-777 plane, who reportedly all died in the crash.

There were unconfirmed reports the Malaysian plane was travelling at an altitude of over 10,000 meters when it was allegedly hit by a missile.

There’s no way that the self-defense forces in Donetsk Region are in possession of such complex weaponry, he stressed. Only S-300 and Buk surface-to-air missile systems are capable of hitting targets at such altitude, the source said.

Buk is a family of self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air missile systems developed by the former USSR and Russia to engage targets at an engagement altitude of 11,000-25,000 meters depending on the model.

RIA Novosti / Evgeny YepanchintsevRIA Novosti / Evgeny Yepanchintsev

Chances are high that the Malaysian plane was really downed by the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense, Yury Karash, pilot and aviation expert, told RT.

“A Boeing-777 is an extremely reliable piece of machinery. Modern planes don’t just crash with no reason,” he said. “Let us recall how a Ukrainian missile downed Russian TU-154 aircraft ten years ago. I can’t completely exclude the possibility the Boeing-777 was also hit by a missile.”

“I don’t know who could’ve shot it down. But I can allege that it was most likely the Ukrainian armed forces: simply because its military – anti-aircraft defense, in particular – are, unfortunately, unqualified. As judging by the overall state of the Ukrainian armed forces, insufficient attention has been paid to their training,” Karash added.

Reports in the Western media hurried to blame the self-defense forces of the People’s Republic of Donetsk for bringing the plane down.

AFP Photo / Dominique Faget AFP Photo / Dominique Faget

The claims were denied by the representatives of the Donetsk People’s Republic, saying that it’s the Ukrainian military, which destroyed the aircraft.

“We simply don’t have such air defense systems. Our man-portable air defense systems have a firing range 3,000 - 4,000 meters. The Boeing was flying at a much higher altitude,” Sergey Kavtaradze, special representative for the prime minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, explained.

Kavtaradze also expressed condolences to the relatives of all of those who lost their lives in the tragedy.

IHS Jane’s Defense analyst, Nick de Larrinaga, also shared the belief that the self-defense forces lack the capability to bring the Malaysian plane down.

“At normal cruising altitude a civilian passenger aircraft would be out of the range of the sort of manned portable air (defense) systems that we have seen proliferate in rebel hands in east Ukraine,” he said in a statement.

But the aircraft would be within range of Buk or other medium-range surface-to-air missile systems, he stressed.

“Both Russia and Ukraine have such SAM systems in their inventories,” the expert added.

It seems unlikely that the self-defense forces could’ve used Buk surface-to-air missile systems to down the Malaysian plane, retired Brig. Gen. Kevin Ryan, the director of the Defense and Intelligence Project at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, said.

“It takes a lot of training and a lot of coordination to fire one of these and hit something,” he told CNN. “This is not the kind of weapon a couple of guys are going to pull out of a garage and fire.”

According to Ryan, if the plane was really taken down then it was done by a professional military force.

Izraelci ušli u Gazu, ko će prvi da ovde okači članak koji govori da su sve zakuvali cionisti i Hazari? Stavljam flašu Jelena na Karmela

Ali da im je leglo ko guza na nošu, to bez sumnje.

Izraelci ušli u Gazu, ko će prvi da ovde okači članak koji govori da su sve zakuvali cionisti i Hazari? Stavljam flašu Jelena na Karmela

Mora se priznati slično bojanje, no opet, 777 je dvomotorac.