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Anjem Choudary, London’s most notorious defender of the Islamic State, says crucifixion and beheading are sacred requirements.


In London, a week before my meal with Cerantonio, I met with three ex-members of a banned Islamist group called Al Muhajiroun (The Emigrants): Anjem Choudary, Abu Baraa, and Abdul Muhid. They all expressed desire to emigrate to the Islamic State, as many of their colleagues already had, but the authorities had confiscated their passports. Like Cerantonio, they regarded the caliphate as the only righteous government on Earth, though none would confess having pledged allegiance. Their principal goal in meeting me was to explain what the Islamic State stands for, and how its policies reflect God’s law.

Choudary, 48, is the group’s former leader. He frequently appears on cable news, as one of the few people producers can book who will defend the Islamic State vociferously, until his mike is cut. He has a reputation in the United Kingdom as a loathsome blowhard, but he and his disciples sincerely believe in the Islamic State and, on matters of doctrine, speak in its voice. Choudary and the others feature prominently in the Twitter feeds of Islamic State residents, and Abu Baraa maintains a YouTube channel to answer questions about Sharia.

Since September, authorities have been investigating the three men on suspicion of supporting terrorism. Because of this investigation, they had to meet me separately: communication among them would have violated the terms of their bail. But speaking with them felt like speaking with the same person wearing different masks. Choudary met me in a candy shop in the East London suburb of Ilford. He was dressed smartly, in a crisp blue tunic reaching nearly to his ankles, and sipped a Red Bull while we talked.

Before the caliphate, “maybe 85 percent of the Sharia was absent from our lives,” Choudary told me. “These laws are in abeyance until we have khilafa”—a caliphate—“and now we have one.” Without a caliphate, for example, individual vigilantes are not obliged to amputate the hands of thieves they catch in the act. But create a caliphate, and this law, along with a huge body of other jurisprudence, suddenly awakens. In theory, all Muslims are obliged to immigrate to the territory where the caliph is applying these laws. One of Choudary’s prize students, a convert from Hinduism named Abu Rumaysah, evaded police to bring his family of five from London to Syria in November. On the day I met Choudary, Abu Rumaysah tweeted out a picture of himself with a Kalashnikov in one arm and his newborn son in the other. Hashtag: #GenerationKhilafah.

Choudary said Sharia has been misunderstood because of its incomplete application by regimes such as Saudi Arabia, which does behead murderers and cut off thieves’ hands. “The problem,” he explained, “is that when places like Saudi Arabia just implement the penal code, and don’t provide the social and economic justice of the Sharia—the whole package—they simply engender hatred toward the Sharia.” That whole package, he said, would include free housing, food, and clothing for all, though of course anyone who wished to enrich himself with work could do so.

Abdul Muhid, 32, continued along these lines. He was dressed in mujahideen chic when I met him at a local restaurant: scruffy beard, Afghan cap, and a wallet outside of his clothes, attached with what looked like a shoulder holster. When we sat down, he was eager to discuss welfare. The Islamic State may have medieval-style punishments for moral crimes (lashes for boozing or fornication, stoning for adultery), but its social-welfare program is, at least in some aspects, progressive to a degree that would please an MSNBC pundit. Health care, he said, is free. (“Isn’t it free in Britain, too?,” I asked. “Not really,” he said. “Some procedures aren’t covered, such as vision.”) This provision of social welfare was not, he said, a policy choice of the Islamic State, but a policy obligation inherent in God’s law.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/arc ... ts/384980/

Sa istog članka...

Takvi ljudi slobodno žive na Zapadu...

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The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.

Virtually every major decision and law promulgated by the Islamic State adheres to what it calls, in its press and pronouncements, and on its billboards, license plates, stationery, and coins, “the Prophetic methodology,” which means following the prophecy and example of Muhammad, in punctilious detail.


Članak stvarno vrijedi pročitati: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

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The Islamic State has attached great importance to the Syrian city of Dabiq, near Aleppo. It named its propaganda magazine after the town, and celebrated madly when (at great cost) it conquered Dabiq’s strategically unimportant plains. It is here, the Prophet reportedly said, that the armies of Rome will set up their camp. The armies of Islam will meet them, and Dabiq will be Rome’s Waterloo or its Antietam.

“Dabiq is basically all farmland,” one Islamic State supporter recently tweeted. “You could imagine large battles taking place there.” The Islamic State’s propagandists drool with anticipation of this event, and constantly imply that it will come soon. The state’s magazine quotes Zarqawi as saying, “The spark has been lit here in Iraq, and its heat will continue to intensify … until it burns the crusader armies in Dabiq.” A recent propaganda video shows clips from Hollywood war movies set in medieval times—perhaps because many of the prophecies specify that the armies will be on horseback or carrying ancient weapons.

Now that it has taken Dabiq, the Islamic State awaits the arrival of an enemy army there, whose defeat will initiate the countdown to the apocalypse. Western media frequently miss references to Dabiq in the Islamic State’s videos, and focus instead on lurid scenes of beheading. “Here we are, burying the first American crusader in Dabiq, eagerly waiting for the remainder of your armies to arrive,” said a masked executioner in a November video, showing the severed head of Peter (Abdul Rahman) Kassig, the aid worker who’d been held captive for more than a year. During fighting in Iraq in December, after mujahideen (perhaps inaccurately) reported having seen American soldiers in battle, Islamic State Twitter accounts erupted in spasms of pleasure, like overenthusiastic hosts or hostesses upon the arrival of the first guests at a party.

The Prophetic narration that foretells the Dabiq battle refers to the enemy as Rome. Who “Rome” is, now that the pope has no army, remains a matter of debate. But Cerantonio makes a case that Rome meant the Eastern Roman empire, which had its capital in what is now Istanbul. We should think of Rome as the Republic of Turkey—the same republic that ended the last self-identified caliphate, 90 years ago. Other Islamic State sources suggest that Rome might mean any infidel army, and the Americans will do nicely.

After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul. Some believe it will then cover the entire Earth, but Cerantonio suggested its tide may never reach beyond the Bosporus. An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.

“Only God knows” whether the Islamic State’s armies are the ones foretold, Cerantonio said. But he is hopeful. “The Prophet said that one sign of the imminent arrival of the End of Days is that people will for a long while stop talking about the End of Days,” he said. “If you go to the mosques now, you’ll find the preachers are silent about this subject.” On this theory, even setbacks dealt to the Islamic State mean nothing, since God has preordained the near-destruction of his people anyway. The Islamic State has its best and worst days ahead of it.


Ludi ko puške...

Doduše slobodno neka unište Istambul...

Samo šta će onda Bošnje.

Kome se prikloniti: Majci Turskoj ili pravim muslimanima. :neznam

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Stavit ću samo link jer je fotografija previše gadna. Dijete sa odrezanom glavom.
Sve rade kako je i Muhammad radio. Skini djetetu hlače (vidi se čak na fotografiji), vidi jesu počele rasti stidne dlačice. Ako jesu reži glavu. I normalno sadističko fotografiranje uz "ratni plijen", šteta što Muhamamad nije imao kamera da to ostanne zabilježeno.


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SLAVOJ ŽIŽEK
Terorizam može iskorijeniti samo radikalna ljevica
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http://www.vecernji.hr/svijet/drzanje-p ... ica-992959

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Flavoj Fifek... Umjesto slogana "Proleteri svih zemalja ujedinite se", Fifek treba inzistirati na uvođenje novog "Repetitio est mater studiorum".


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Ja već vidim Žižeka, Srećka Horvata i Mimu Simić sa redenikom metaka ko Rambo kako iskorijenjuju ISIL.

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Ja već vidim Žižeka, Srećka Horvata i Mimu Simić sa redenikom metaka ko Rambo kako iskorijenjuju ISIL.


Ali samo Žižek granatira sve redom, čim progovori, ako me razumeš.


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Ne smetamo im da se odu boriti u Iraq.

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Ja bio volio vidjeti liberalnu legiju ili još bolje diviziju kako spašava jadne ljude od ove kuge ljudske...

Ali nekako sam skeptičan što se tiče odaziva svjetskog građanstva za obranu svjetskog građanstva...

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Rising Dem star committed ‘mortal sin’ by ripping Obama on Islamic State

Hawaii Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a twice-deployed Army veteran, is taking heat from liberals in the media for criticizing President Obama’s strategy to defeat Islamic State militants and the administration’s refusal to identify radical Islam as the enemy.

“Every soldier knows this simple fact: If you don’t know your enemy, you will not be able to defeat him,” Ms. Gabbard said, Fox News reported Saturday. “Our leaders must clearly identify the enemy as Islamist extremists, understand the ideology that is motivating them and attracting new recruits, and focus on defeating that enemy both militarily and ideologically.”

Ms. Gabbard, who is a member of the House Armed Services and Foreign Affairs Committees, told Fox that the administration’s fear of associating radical terrorist groups with the Islamic faith were “unfounded.”

“I think recognizing and being very accurate and very specific and understanding this must be a core part of our strategy, to defeat those who seek to do harm to the American people is exactly how we must be looking at this issue and remain very focused on it,” Ms. Gabbard said, Fox reported.

But political experts in her home state have criticized the rising Democratic star for challenging a president from her own party, and worry she has jeopardized her prospects for re-election in one of the bluest states.

“While Gabbard is correct in her ‘emperor has no clothes’ moment, she may have lost her future seat on Hawaii’s political bench,” said Michael W. Perry, of Hawaii’s “Perry & Price” KSSK radio show.

Mr. Perry said Ms. Gabbard had committed a “mortal sin” by challenging the president and “now the knives are coming out,” Fox reported.

Bob Jones, a columnist for the Oahu-based Midweek, wrote that Ms. Gabbard’s comments were out of line.

“I take serious issue when somebody who’s done a little non-fighting in Iraq, and is not a Middle East or Islamic scholar, claims to know better than our President and Secretary of State how to fathom the motivations of terrorists, or how to refer to them beyond the term that best describes them — terrorists,” Mr. Jones said.

But others in the military community have stepped forward to defend Ms. Gabbard, saying her remarks are courageous and correct.

“[Gabbard] has taken a very courageous stand in a party that just refuses to face reality,” said Retired U.S. army Lt. Gen. Michal Flynn, who directed the Defense Intelligence Agency, Fox reported.

Former intelligence officer and noted specialist on Islamic law, Stephen Coughlin told Fox, “Rep. Gabbard is correct as a matter of history, she is correct as a matter of current events, and she is correct of published Islamic law.”

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Sve se više otvaraju diskusije po svijetu i stvara spoznaja da islam nije religija. Bar ne one vrste koja bi trebala imati državne potpore. Ide na bolje, puževim korakom ali ide.

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Ivan Šimonović:
'Susreo sam se s majkama, koje kažu, što da napravimo? Naša djeca žele se pridružiti ISIL-u'
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Govorio je i o razaranju koje vrši ISIL. Na pitanje kako UN gleda na to i može li se spriječiti rekao je da je ''to krajnje zabrinjavajuće''.

- Situacija ekstremizma koja ima elemente vjerskog i terorističkog djelovanja krajnje je opasna. Mi u UN-u pokušavamo s jedne strane osigurati globalnu platformu, ne samo za oružana djelovanja i suzbijanju takvih izazova, nego isto tako ustanoviti koji su to korijeni koji vode bujanju ovih korova. U kojoj mjeri se radi o diskriminaciji koja vodi frustraciji, primjerice Sunita u Iraku koji podržavaju ISIL ili marginaliziranih skupina unutar EU-a iz kojih se onda regrutiraju borci za ekstremističku akciju-dodao je Šimonović.

Kazao je da ''postoje multikauzalni faktori koji utječu na bujanje ISIL-a''.

- Čujte, ja sam bio u Iraku nedavno i ovo što se govorilo da ISIL nasilno regrutira svoje borce? Ja sam se susreo sa očajnim majkama, koje kažu, što da napravimo? Naša maloljetna djeca žele se pridružiti ISIL-u. Dakle, dok se ne suočimo s time da određenoj populaciji imponira ISIL, dotle nećemo moći zaustaviti napredovanje- rekao je Šimonović za Novu TV.

http://www.vecernji.hr/hrvatska/susreo- ... l-u-993761

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Daj ne citiraj tog dosadnog birokratu. Čitav život mu je pisanje pisama.

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Znači službeno razlike između islama prije tisuću godina i islama danas u obličju Islamske države nema.

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Ben Yussuf: The Prophet has commanded us to rule the world. Where in all your land of Spain is the glory of Allah? When men speak of you they speak of poets, musicmakers, doctors, scientists. Where are your warriors? You dare to call youselves sons of the Prophet? You have become women! Burn your books! Make warriors of your poets! Let you doctors invent new poisons for our arrows. Let you scientists invent new war machines! And then, kill! Burn! Infidels live on your frontiers. Encourage them to kill each other. And when they are weak and torn, I will sweep up from Africa, and the empire of the One God, the true God, Allah, will spread, first across Spain, then across Europe, then the whole world!


Uvijek ista brija...

Vjerojatno neki zamotani emir ovog trenutka drži sličan govor regrutima u sirijskoj pustinji...

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And then, kill! Burn!


Islam u četiri riječi...

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A u pozadini netko zavija...

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Allah is merciful...


Prva dva rezultata na googleu za to: The Mercy of Allah Towards His slaves, Is Allah Really Merciful? :laugh

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Znači službeno razlike između islama prije tisuću godina i islama danas u obličju Islamske države nema.

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Ben Yussuf: The Prophet has commanded us to rule the world. Where in all your land of Spain is the glory of Allah? When men speak of you they speak of poets, musicmakers, doctors, scientists. Where are your warriors? You dare to call youselves sons of the Prophet? You have become women! Burn your books! Make warriors of your poets! Let you doctors invent new poisons for our arrows. Let you scientists invent new war machines! And then, kill! Burn! Infidels live on your frontiers. Encourage them to kill each other. And when they are weak and torn, I will sweep up from Africa, and the empire of the One God, the true God, Allah, will spread, first across Spain, then across Europe, then the whole world!



Ben Yussuf drži citirani govor od 1.46 do 2:52.

Autor sinopsisa je Fredric M. Frank, a scenarist filma El Cid je Philip Yordan. Redatelj je Anthony Mann.


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Tko god da je kraj će biti isti. :zivili

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ŠOK U FRANCUSKOJ Učenici prepoznali kolegu, dječaka koji ubija taoca

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Dijete koje je prikazano kako ubija zatvorenika na video-snimci što ju je u utorak emitirala Islamska država (IS), prepoznali su kolege iz razreda u Toulouseu, na jugozapadu Francuske, izjavio je dužnosnik nacionalnog obrazovanja.

Učenici “su prepoznali jednog od svojih kolega ali treba biti oprezan”, kazao je na konferenciji za novinare inspektor Jacques Caillaut, prenose agencije.

Nije potvrdio informacije iz izvora bliskih tom predmetu prema kojima je dijete od dvanaestak godina, snimljeno kako ubija pištoljem izraelskog Arapa, predstavljen kao špijun, zaista bratić Sabrija Esida, rođaka Muhameda Meraha, ubojice iz Toulousea.

Merah je posijao užas u Francuskoj usmrtivši između 11. i 19. ožujka 2012. tri vojnika, troje djece i nastavnika u židovskoj školi.

Video-snimku su u srijedu vidjela djeca te je “već od četvrtka osigurana psihološka pomoć” za učenike jer su “djeca šokirana”, kazao je Caillaut.

Obitelj Sabrija Esida (31) osumnjičena je da je napustila četvrtak Mirail u Toulouseu i otišla u Siriju u proljeće 2014.


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Do sada su razloge odlaska u ISIL objašnjavali lošim socio-ekonomskim položajem, udaljenosti od mainstreama, nedovoljnoj obrazovanosti itd kad dobišmo ovu dvojicu.

Učenici u elitnoj selektivnoj školi, a i u njoj kao takvoj, na samom vrhu po akademskim i sportskim postignućima, s angažmanom u široj zajednici, popularnosti itd.

Ne kontam šta će sad, nemoguće ih je promatrati 24/7, što će biti kada zakolje nekog učenika ili slučajnog prolaznika, frustiran što je spriječen u odlasku?

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Sydney Boys High students are stopped at airport on way to join Islamic State

When he was just 13, he was so conscious of the perils of being a teenager that he helped set up a website offering support to disaffected teens.

Four years later, authorities believe the high-achieving Sydney Boys High student had himself grown increasingly disaffected.

The 17-year-old, who Fairfax Media has chosen not to name, and his brother, 16, were stopped at Sydney Airport on March 6, believed to be on their way to the Middle East, via Kuala Lumpur, to join Islamic State.

In a concerning development for counter-terrorism authorities, it appears the pair were the antithesis of the typical teenager being lured to Syria and Iraq by the Islamic State.

They did not appear to be marginalised, lonely, unhappy or bored.


Fairfax Media can reveal that authorities are looking into the three months the older brother spent in Germany over the summer holidays, examining whether he came into contact with any extremists who may have prompted his sudden and rapid radicalisation.

He was one of two students to win a scholarship to live with a German family for 10 weeks, departing in November 2014.

Less than a fortnight after he returned home, he was allegedly intercepted at Sydney Airport with a return ticket to Turkey.

The star Year 11 pupil at the prestigious GPS school was a regular academic prize winner, a member of the debate team, a state-level football player and recently voted in as vice president of the Student Representative Council by his peers.

Among the topics covered at inter-school debates one year was whether the West "should undertake surgical air strikes against Assad's regime in Syria".

In 2011, he urged his friends to get behind an internal school website providing help for "getting through adolescence".

"This site is extremely beneficial to the problems that young adolescents could be having out there. Let's try harder to make the site better," he posted.

Just weeks ago, he won a prize for his outstanding score in an Australian Mathematics Trust competition.

His younger brother was also an avid sportsman, excelling at basketball, long jump and football.

"If they were switched on to questions of global injustice and seeking answers, not just angry young men or alienated young men but passionate idealists, then they can just as easily be targets of the predatory recruitment by Islamic State," said terrorism expert Greg Barton, from Monash University's Global Terrorism Research Centre.

"It is deliberate, targeted, predatory recruitment."

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton said the boys' parents, who live in south-west Sydney, had no idea of the boys' attempt to travel to "a potentially very dangerous situation".

The younger boy, a Year 10 student, wore a yellow 'Australia' t-shirt to the airport and the pair had allegedly deleted electronic files with tips on how to convince Customs officials they were tourists.

"As a result of this interception, a Sydney family remains together," Mr Dutton said on March 8.

The Australian Federal Police released the boys into the care of their parents without being charged. A spokesman said an investigation is ongoing.

The younger child had watched a video recently by Sheikh Feiz Mohammed, a reclusive, firebrand who has been blamed for radicalising Sydney men including wanted terrorist Mohamed Elomar.

The eldest brother had recently attended some seminars by a University of New South Wales Islamic group.

Sydney Boys High principal, Dr Kim Jaggar, would not comment on the case.

A spokesman for the Department of Education said they assist investigative agencies in such matters and always place the highest priority on student wellbeing and welfare.

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A da liberalčići prestanu sve objašnjavat siromaštvom bilo bi veliko olakšanje - neka sebi priznaju da su ljudi *** i da ne postoji šablon po kojem ljudi djeluju. Šta onda, svi Hrvati iz BiH bi trebali u križare po Siriji jer nemaju para? I onaj Mirza Ganić iz Sandžaka isto bio dobar đak i dobar matematiĆar, pa šehidiJo prošle godine.


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Takvi ljudi ne vrijednjuju dunjaluk samo ahiret.
Mada u džihad se ne ide ako nemaš saglasnost roditelja kolko god godina imao.
"Jedne druge prilike, neki čovjek je upitao poslanika Muhammeda, alejhis-selam: "Da li bih trebao poći u džihad?", a on ga je pitao: "Da li ti imaš roditelje?" Čovjek je odgovorio: "Da!" Na to je Poslanik, alejhis-selam, rekao: "Onda se vrati svojim roditeljima i pazi na njih i lijepo se ponašaj prema njima!" (Sahih Buhari, 5972)"

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Kako uopće možeš vjerovati da je neki lik prije 1.000 i nešto godina imao nekakvu objavu, direktan dodir s nekakvim "Bogom". Zar ti nije lakše zamisliti da bi takav lik danas (Isus ili Muhamed) završio u ludnici, pa po istim aršinima suditi i njihova sabrana djela?

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Kako uopće možeš vjerovati da je neki lik prije 1.000 i nešto godina imao nekakvu objavu, direktan dodir s nekakvim "Bogom". Zar ti nije lakše zamisliti da bi takav lik danas (Isus ili Muhamed) završio u ludnici, pa po istim aršinima suditi i njihova sabrana djela?


Sad možeš igrati na kartu što više nekog prgoniš to ga više narod sažalijeva.
Imali su na sebi znakove po kojima su se mogli prepoznati.
Kako ti možeš objasniti da što su ti ljudi rekli se danas ispunilo?
Kako su mogli znati?
Da ne trolam i idem u offtopic.
A uvijek je bilo nekih "ateista" koji su u laž ugonili poslanike.

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