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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 07 sij 2016, 15:06 |
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Pridružen/a: 03 svi 2009, 09:25 Postovi: 43752 Lokacija: Folklorni Jugoslaven, praktični Hrvat
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Ovo više nije ni trending vijest, ovo postalo nešto kao prometne nesreće, mali djelić crne kronike. A bude nešto skoro svakog tjedna. Citat: Pokušaj napada na policijsku stanicu u Parizu
Na prvu godišnjicu napada na redakciju magazina «Charlie Hebdo», ubijen je čovjek koji je pokušao ući u policijsku stanicu u Parizu, uzvikujući: «Allahu Ekber!».. U agencijskoj vijesti čitamo da je francuski ministar policije rekao da je taj čovjek uzvikivao «Allahu Ekber!» prije nego što su ga policajci ubili. Svjedoci tvrde "da su policajci ispalili dva ili tri metka u čovjeka koji se zatrčao ka ulazu u policijsku stanicu, u 18. arondismanu na sjeveru Pariza", kao i da su "jake policijske snage blokirale pristup mjestu incidenta, a stanarima okolnih zgrada naređeno je da zatvore vrata i prozore i ne napuštaju svoje domove".
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 07 sij 2016, 16:15 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Baš gledam na BBC News. Njihovo rješenje tog problema je, puštanje u Europu takvih tipova bez ikakvih identifikacijskih dokumenata i da pojma nemaju tko su te osobe.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 08 sij 2016, 01:36 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Kakvi su neredi bili malo prije Nove Godine u Parizu ? Zapaljeno oko 800 vozila, 640 naslilnih "prosvjednika" uhićeno. Kažu da je to neka stara tradicija zabave muslimana za Novu Godinu. God bless Internet. The number of vehicles torched fell from 1,067 a year ago to 940, the interior ministry said in a statement.Citat: “Over 800 cars set ablaze in France on New Year’s Eve,” The Daily Sabah, STRASBOURG, January 2, 2016:
A total of 804 vehicles were set aflame in all of France on New Year’s Eve, a 14.5 per cent decrease from the previous year, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said on Twitter Friday.
The 2014-2015 celebrations saw 940 cars burned.
Burning automobiles as a way to ring in the new year has grown into a trend in recent years, with mostly young men using it as a form of protest.
The ministry said 622 people were taken into custody by French authorities over New Year’s, twice as many as a year before.
The New Year’s Eve celebrations took place amid a heavy police presence seven weeks after the November 13 terror attacks in Paris
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 08 sij 2016, 01:48 |
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 11 sij 2016, 00:01 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Ministry of Sound je napisao/la: Ovo više nije ni trending vijest, ovo postalo nešto kao prometne nesreće, mali djelić crne kronike. A bude nešto skoro svakog tjedna. Citat: Pokušaj napada na policijsku stanicu u Parizu
Na prvu godišnjicu napada na redakciju magazina «Charlie Hebdo», ubijen je čovjek koji je pokušao ući u policijsku stanicu u Parizu, uzvikujući: «Allahu Ekber!».. U agencijskoj vijesti čitamo da je francuski ministar policije rekao da je taj čovjek uzvikivao «Allahu Ekber!» prije nego što su ga policajci ubili. Svjedoci tvrde "da su policajci ispalili dva ili tri metka u čovjeka koji se zatrčao ka ulazu u policijsku stanicu, u 18. arondismanu na sjeveru Pariza", kao i da su "jake policijske snage blokirale pristup mjestu incidenta, a stanarima okolnih zgrada naređeno je da zatvore vrata i prozore i ne napuštaju svoje domove". Ovaj bio azilant i u Njemačkoj. Imao nekoliko identiteta.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 25 sij 2016, 11:01 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Stravična statistika. Ne znam hoće li ikome u Francuskoj upaliti lampice. Samo oko 7% muslimana u državi a stoje za 52% silovanja. Vjerojatno je i gore, jer policija odprilike 1 od 10 slučajeva silovanja riješi do kraja. Citat: Women’s Rights Groups Attack Study of Rapists Showing Attackers Likely to be 34-Year-Old, Jobless, Foreign Men
by SARKIS ZERONIAN23 Jan 2016155
A study of hundreds of rapists in Paris shows the profile of an attacker is that of a jobless, foreign man who is 34 years old, but women’s rights groups have attacked the results.
According to the French National Supervisory Body on Crime and Punishment, there were 688 acts of rape recorded in Paris in the years 2013 and 2014. Analysis of the figures conducted by French newspaper Le Parisien has produced what it says are the typical characteristics of attackers, victims, and the likely areas where attacks will occur.
The attackers are 100 per cent likely to be a males who are on average 34 years old. 52 per cent of them are foreign and 48 per cent are likely to be known to police. More than 50 per cent of attackers will be unemployed.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 28 sij 2016, 19:45 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Uhitili tipa u Disney parku u Parizu. U torbi mu našli dva pištolja i kuran.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 29 sij 2016, 01:21 |
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Pridružen/a: 17 lip 2012, 00:09 Postovi: 15513
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BBC je napisao/la: Uhitili tipa u Disney parku u Parizu. U torbi mu našli dva pištolja i kuran. Zanimljivo mi je ovo uporediti s Balkanom. Jel skiče Francuzi po forumima da ovo nema nigdje, ovo je luda zemlja, treba se seliti i tako to?
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 08 vel 2016, 14:42 |
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 12 vel 2016, 10:39 |
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 22 vel 2016, 12:56 |
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Pridružen/a: 02 kol 2012, 11:47 Postovi: 39585 Lokacija: Ulica Nemanje Bilbije 99
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GRAĐANI NA PRVOJ CRTI! PARIZ GORI! U tijeku ulične borbe policije i građana protiv migranata! I dok svjetski mediji okreću glavu od surove stvarnosti u Francuskoj, pariška policija ujedinjena s građanstvom prepuštena je sama sebi u sukobima protiv migranata. Nevjerojatni prizori pristižu s pariških ulica, no čini se kako ratovanje policije i građana protiv migranata – svjetskim medijima i dalje nisu dovoljno zanimljivi. Nakon ovakvih šokantnih prizora mržnje u gradu koji je donedavno nazivan “gradom ljubavi”, zaista je upitno što se još u Parizu mora dogoditi kako bi se prekinula medijska šutnja, a svijet reagirao. Pogledajte stanje u Parizu: https://www.facebook.com/hautecoutureta ... 288044460/
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 22 vel 2016, 13:18 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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To su snimke od prošlog ljeta. Ali stoji da su njihovi mediji pritisnuti da to sakriju.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 01 ožu 2016, 13:45 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Frka u kampu u Calais. Specijalna policija ruši divlji kamp. ovi na silu zaustavljaju kamione da ih voze u UK i tuku se sa policijom.
Ne kužim zašto to rade kad im do kampa napravili kontejnere sa vodom, strujom i grijanjem. Problem je što se onda moraju popisati i više ne mogu dobiti azil u Britaniji.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 01 ožu 2016, 13:53 |
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Sene jako podsjećaju na početke "arapskog proljeća". Njemci bi trebali dati azil tim jadncima iz francuske ratne zone.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 18 ožu 2016, 21:12 |
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Ovaj tip što ga je neki dan policija ubila u Belgiji godinama živio kao azilant u Švedskoj. Masu kriminala pravio, masu puta u zatvoru bio. Švedski sud mu nikad protjerivanje nije presudio. Da jesu ne bi napravio masakr u Parizu. Da se zamisliš, zar ne ? Čini mi se da je imao i zadržan stan u Švedskoj kojeg su švedski poreznici plaćali, iako je sa drugim identitetom živio u drugoj državi. Ne bi me čudilo i da mu je švedska socijala stizala na račun u banci. U biti ako su mu plaćali stan onda je ubirao i socijalu, 100%.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 31 ožu 2016, 18:17 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Danas dali javno. Francuska policija prošli tjedan zaplijenila više municije i ekploziva nego je korišteno u masakru u Parizu. U biti spriječili su još gori masakr.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 04 tra 2016, 00:44 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Francuske stjuardese odbijaju da pokrivaju glave na letovima za Teheran. Sindikat na njihovoj strani.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 11 tra 2016, 14:42 |
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 11 tra 2016, 14:47 |
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Pridružen/a: 03 svi 2009, 09:25 Postovi: 43752 Lokacija: Folklorni Jugoslaven, praktični Hrvat
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Uvijek sam govorio da su ovi iz Charlie Hebdo iskreni liberali i sekularisti, a ne regresivna ljevica koja bezuvjetno brani Islam. Vrlo jaka kolumna, koja osuđuje ne i teroriste, nego i halal prodavnice, apologete Islama kako među ideološkom ljevicom, tako i među muslimanima koji diplaju o islamofobiji itd. Apologeti i "umjereni muslimani" su samo vidljivi dio iste sante leda. https://charliehebdo.fr/en/edito/how-did-we-end-up-here/Citat: HOW DID WE END UP HERE?
Par Charlie Hebdo - 30/03/2016
For a week now, experts of all kinds have been trying to understand the reasons for the attacks in Brussels. An incompetent police force? Unbridled multiculturalism? Youth unemployment? Uninhibited Islamism? The causes are numerous beyond counting and everyone will naturally choose the one that suits best their own convictions. Law and Order fans will denounce the haplessness of the police. Xenophobes will blame immigration. Sociologists will rehash the evils of colonialism. Urban-planners will point to the evils of ghettoisation. Take your pick.
In reality, the attacks are merely the visible part of a very large iceberg indeed. They are the last phase of a process of cowing and silencing long in motion and on the widest possible scale. Our noses are endlessly rubbed in the rubble of Brussels airport and in the flickering candles amongst the bouquets of flowers on the pavements. All the while, no one notices what's going on in Saint-German-en-Laye. Last week, Sciences-Po* welcomed Tariq Ramadan. He's a teacher, so it's not inappropriate. He came to speak of his specialist subject, Islam, which is also his religion. Rather like lecture by a Professor of Pies who is also a pie-maker. Thus judge and contestant both.
No matter, Tariq Ramadan has done nothing wrong. He will never do anything wrong. He lectures about Islam, he writes about Islam, he broadcasts about Islam. He puts himself forward as a man of dialogue, someone open to a debate. A debate about secularism which, according to him, needs to adapt itself to the new place taken by religion in Western democracy. A secularism and a democracy which must also accept those traditions imported by minority communities. Nothing bad in that. Tariq Ramadan is never going to grab a Kalashnikov with which to shoot journalists at an editorial meeting. Nor will he ever cook up a bomb to be used in an airport concourse. Others will be doing all that kind of stuff. It will not be his role. His task, under cover of debate, is to dissuade people from criticising his religion in any way. The political science students who listened to him last week will, once they have become journalists or local officials, not even dare to write nor say anything negative about Islam. The little dent in their secularism made that day will bear fruit in a fear of criticising lest they appear Islamophobic. That is Tariq Ramadan's task.
Take this veiled woman. She is an admirable woman. She is courageous and dignified, devoted to her family and her children. Why bother her? She harms no one. Even those women who wear the total, all-encompassing veil do not generally use their clothing to hide bombs (as certain people were claiming when the law to ban the burqa was being discussed). They too will do nothing wrong. So why go on whining about the wearing of the veil and pointing the finger of blame at these women? We should shut up, look elsewhere and move past all the street-insults and rumpus. The role of these women, even if they are unaware of it, does not go beyond this.
The visible part of a very big iceberg.
Take the local baker, who has just bought the nearby bakery and replaced the old, recently-retired guy, he makes good croissants. He's likeable and always has a ready smile for all his customers. He's completely integrated into the neighbourhood already. Neither his long beard nor the little prayer-bruise on his forehead (indicative of his great piety) bother his clientele. They are too busy lapping up his lunchtime sandwiches. Those he sells are fabulous, though from now on there's no more ham nor bacon. Which is no big deal because there are plenty of other options on offer - tuna, chicken and all the trimmings. So, it would be silly to grumble or kick up a fuss in that much-loved boulangerie. We'll get used to it easily enough. As Tariq Ramadan helpfully instructs us, we'll adapt. And thus the baker's role is done.
Take this young delinquent. H has never looked at the Quran in his life, he knows little of the history of religion, of colonialism, nor a great deal about the proud country of his Maghreb forefathers. This lad and a couple of his buddies order a taxi. They are not erudite like Tariq Ramadan, they don't pray as often as the local baker and are not as observant as the redoubtable veiled mothers on the street. The taxi heads for Brussels airport. And still, in this precise moment, no one has done anything wrong. Not Tariq Ramadan, nor the ladies in burqas, not the baker and not even these idle young scamps.
And yet, none of what is about to happen in the airport or metro of Brussels can really happen without everyone's contribution. Because the incidence of all of it is informed by some version of the same dread or fear. The fear of contradiction or objection. The aversion to causing controversy. The dread of being treated as an Islamophobe or being called racist. Really, a kind of terror. And that thing which is just about to happen when the taxi-ride ends is but a last step in a journey of rising anxiety. It's not easy to get some proper terrorism going without a preceding atmosphere of mute and general apprehension.
These young terrorists have no need to amass the talents of others, to be erudite, dignified or hard-working. Their role is simply to provide the end of a philosophical line already begun. A line which tells us "Hold your tongues, living or dead. Give up discussing, debating, contradicting or contesting".
This is not to victimise Islam particularly. For it has no opponent. It is not Christianity, Hinduism nor Judaism that is balked by the imposition of this silence. It is the opponent (and protector) of them all. It is the very notion of the secular. It is secularism which is being forced into retreat.
Above all, in a sense, this stops us asking perhaps the world's oldest and most important question - "How the hell did I end up here?". "How the hell did I end up having to wander the streets all day with a big veil on my head?" "How the hell did I end up having to say prayers five times a day?" " How the hell did I end up in the back of a taxi with three rucksacks packed with explosives?" Perhaps, very sadly, the only people who are still asking themselves that most important of questions are the unlucky victims. "How the hell did I end up here, six yards away from that big bomb?"
The first task of the guilty is to blame the innocent. It's an almost perfect inversion of culpability. From the bakery that forbids you to eat what you like, to the woman who forbids you to admit that you are troubled by her veil, we are submerged in guilt for permitting ourselves such thoughts. And that is where and when fear has started its sapping, undermining work. And the way is marked for all that will follow.
* Sciences Po is an elite French public research and higher education institution.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 11 tra 2016, 18:05 |
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Da, kako da ne. Zato su odlučili da više neće objavljivati karikature proroka Muhameda. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 99955.htmlMislim, općenito narodi sa Balkana ne vole se izrugivati religijioznim svetinjama jer nije njihov stil i smatra se vrlo nepristojnim. No, ako su ovi već odlučili braniti liberalizam i te pizdarije nisu smjeli kapitulirati pred islamskim osvajačima. Sada su se odlučili samo koncentrirati na kršćanske svetinje.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 11 tra 2016, 18:36 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108338 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Je, začudilo me to od njih kad sam čuo. Skužili su kako da se muslimanima osvete kolektivno i najviše im naštete a da ovi ostanu zbunjeni kao majmuni jel treba sad fatwa za ubijanje kafira iz časopisa ili ne.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 11 tra 2016, 20:11 |
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Pridružen/a: 11 tra 2016, 17:17 Postovi: 7751 Lokacija: Сарај Чадор
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Pametan poslovni potez. Doslo i njima iz glave u guzicu da ipak ne vrijedi vrijedati vjerske osjecaje 1/5 stanovnistva svijeta zaradi toga da neki shoshon "umjetnik" moze doci do punog "umjetnickog" izrazaja". Putin je to odlicno rijesio u Rusiji. Dekretom protiv svake vrste podsticanja vjerske mrznje i vrijedanja vjerskih osjecaja pripadnika bilo koje vjere.
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Takozvana "rs" je genocidna tvorevina.
The so-called "republic of srpska" is a genocidal ramshackle pseudo-state.
Ko je zrinyia na sigetu posjek'o..
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 11 tra 2016, 21:55 |
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1/5 svijeta, kako to gordo zvuči, a zapravo 1.5 milijarda...
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 12 tra 2016, 07:49 |
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dudu je napisao/la: 1/5 svijeta, kako to gordo zvuči, a zapravo 1.5 milijarda... Europa može biti sretna da postoji taj dio svijeta gdje mnoge države imaju novaca, a nemaju skoro nikakve vlastite industrije (osim Turske). Neki dan sam bio u jednoj velikoj španjolskoj firmi koja trenutno radi samo za Saudijsku Arabiju i Kazakhstan. Znači bez tih "kozojeba" bi i Španjolci mogli ići na biro i kupiti koze.
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Naslov: Re: Francuska Postano: 12 tra 2016, 10:14 |
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Auuu, rastopio sam se. Kako si uvijek brz da nahvališ svoju braću i uvijek imaš samo lijepe riječi za njih. Ni riječi o terorizmu, normalno. Jesi bio danas u onoj riječkoj katarskoj džamiji ?
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