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Za sve pametne nek pogledaju kako izgleda slovensko-hrvatska i slovensko-austrijska granica.
Žica se ne postavlja svugdje nego na udarnim točkama kako bi se kontrolirala zelena granica, u ovom slučaju potez od Dunava do Save.

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Hajde samo malo uključi mozak i postavi se u ulogu imigranta.Nije teško.Da bi dvorište bilo ograđeno moraš da celog ograditi.Od Mađarske do CG.


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Ne moraš, ogradom sa Srbijom im preostaje teži put preko BiH ili lakši preko Rumunjske.
Nije to pitanje, hoću-neću kad Švabe zatvore svoju granicu onaj tko zadnji ostane postat će sabirni centar za teroriste.

Hrvatska s BiH ima samo manji dio zelene granice, ostalo su sve prirodne prepreke.

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Ne moraš, ogradom sa Srbijom im preostaje teži put preko BiH ili lakši preko Rumunjske.
Nije to pitanje, hoću-neću kad Švabe zatvore svoju granicu onaj tko zadnji ostane postat će sabirni centar za teroriste.

Hrvatska s BiH ima samo manji dio zelene granice, ostalo su sve prirodne prepreke.


Mađari su već najavili da će ako treba i na granici sa Rumunijom podići ogradu.

Te tzv. izbeglice nisu debilčine, one će svakako pronaći način da se dočepaju evrope.

Uskoro će i ova maršuta postati aktuelna :kava


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Žice i ograde se moraju dizati da ih obeshrabre. Da dolaze u puno manjem broju. Trenutno ne postoji ništa (osim novca jer košta) što ih može obeshrabriti da krenu na taj put.

Mada, ukidanje davanja novca u ruke i odbijenice za azil bi bile najbolje sredstvo. Sve dok jedna eurospka država bojkotira nema od tog ništa. Sve druge ovise o ludilu te države (Merkel, Švedska).

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JUNCKEROV HLADAN TUŠ POLJACIMA I SLOVACIMA 'Uozbiljite se. Pokolj u Parizu počinili su kriminalci, a ne izbjeglice'
Koji gadljivi idiot :rigam

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JUNCKEROV HLADAN TUŠ POLJACIMA I SLOVACIMA 'Uozbiljite se. Pokolj u Parizu počinili su kriminalci, a ne izbjeglice'
Koji gadljivi idiot :rigam

I onda se naši žale da su Josipović i Pusićka petokolonaši =))

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Nijemci proveli istraživanje među "izbjeglicama" vezano za one natpise po forumima i novinama kako ne treba kriviti migrante jer oni bježe od terorista.

Na pitanje od koga bježe 70% "izbjeglica" odgovorilo od terora Assad i vlade, znači 70% indirektno je na strani terorista i podržava njihovu borbu protiv režima.

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Nijemci proveli istraživanje među "izbjeglicama" vezano za one natpise po forumima i novinama kako ne treba kriviti migrante jer oni bježe od terorista.

Na pitanje od koga bježe 70% "izbjeglica" odgovorilo od terora Assad i vlade, znači 70% indirektno je na strani terorista i podržava njihovu borbu protiv režima.


Takve stvari su jedan od razloga zašto im švedske vlasti govore da ne pričaju sa novinarima.
Drugi bi bio sramota, kad krenu pokazivati skupe smartphones i žaliti se na uvjete u Švedskoj.

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JUNCKEROV HLADAN TUŠ POLJACIMA I SLOVACIMA 'Uozbiljite se. Pokolj u Parizu počinili su kriminalci, a ne izbjeglice'
Koji gadljivi idiot :rigam

Mudro rečeno, gospodine Jean-Claude.
Ta ne možemo kriviti milione izbeglica koji su tu ili koji će doći za ovaj nemili događaj u Parizu. U ovim teškim trenucima za Francusku, moramo ostati ljudi i kao ljudi se odnositi prema svemu, pa i ovom monstruoznom ubistvu od strane nekolicine islamskih terorista.


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Shotguns have 'virtually sold out' in Austria as citizens rush to buy arms amid fears of a massive influx of migrants, dealers claim

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3291978/Shotguns-virtually-sold-Austria-citizens-rush-buy-arms-amid-fears-massive-influx-migrants-dealers-claim.html



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ovaj u pozadini lijevi sta plesce dok baba plese je ubio najvise ljudi u parizu!!

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Da Alžirac iz Francuske, uvalio se među migrante, drugačije se nikako ne bi mogao vratiti, očekivano kad se potpuno otvore granice da prolazi tko hoće bez redovne i normalne kontrole.
U Europu je s ovim valom ušao najveći ološ i iskoristio priliku, od terorista do kriminalaca pa nadalje.

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Nemačka u Kabulu pokrenula kampanju odvraćanja izbeglica

http://www.seebiz.eu/njemacka-u-kabulu-pokrenula-kampanju-odvracanja-izbjeglica/ar-124217/


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:mellow I? ko,sta,kao?
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Nijemci proveli istraživanje među "izbjeglicama" vezano za one natpise po forumima i novinama kako ne treba kriviti migrante jer oni bježe od terorista.

Na pitanje od koga bježe 70% "izbjeglica" odgovorilo od terora Assad i vlade, znači 70% indirektno je na strani terorista i podržava njihovu borbu protiv režima.

ima jedan meme na netu,nisam uspio naci,arap dolazi amerikancu kaze da je rebel pa mu daju oruzje,ode isilu pa im proda oruzje dojde u europu pa kaze mi smo umjereni !!!

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@heero procitaj naslov topica ...


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daramo je napisao/la:
Nijemci proveli istraživanje među "izbjeglicama" vezano za one natpise po forumima i novinama kako ne treba kriviti migrante jer oni bježe od terorista.

Na pitanje od koga bježe 70% "izbjeglica" odgovorilo od terora Assad i vlade, znači 70% indirektno je na strani terorista i podržava njihovu borbu protiv režima.

ima jedan meme na netu,nisam uspio naci,arap dolazi amerikancu kaze da je rebel pa mu daju oruzje,ode isilu pa im proda oruzje dojde u europu pa kaze mi smo umjereni !!!

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Paris bomber sneaked into Europe posing as a refugee in Greece because EVERY arrival is given travel papers, officials admit in shocking expose of open-borders policy
By JOHN STEVENS IN LEROS, GREECE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 11:40 GMT, 16 November 2015 | UPDATED: 13:41 GMT, 16 November 2015

The deadly suicide bomb suspect who sneaked into Europe posing as a Syrian refugee was not stopped on a Greek island because every arrival is given travel papers to continue their journey, officials admitted last night.

Documents show how the man was arrested on Leros after being saved from a sinking raft filled with migrants, but was let go and given a permit allowing him to get a ferry to mainland Europe.

The shocking ease with which potential terrorists are able to travel across Europe has sparked a renewed debate about the European Union's open borders policy.

The suspected suicide bomber reached Greece after crossing the Aegean from Turkey on a raft with 198 others.
The 25-year-old claimed asylum using a suspected fake passport in the name of Ahmad Almohammad.
He was arrested but released and given papers so he could travel to Athens because officers believed he was a genuine refugee.

He was then able to travel through the Balkans, passing through checkpoints in Serbia and Croatia, before heading for Northern Europe.
Greece identified him after the passport he used was found near the body of one of the gang near the Stade de France attack site.
The French have not confirmed the refugee connection but Greece's migration minister, Yannis Mouzalas, last night said 'Almohammad' was presumed to be a terrorist.

More than 500 people are landing on a daily basis on Leros, which is just seven miles from Turkey.
But officials have told the Mail the handing out of travel documents means 'every one' is able to pass on to Athens regardless of whether they are a genuine refugee.

Greece said the man using the Syrian passport in the name of Almohammad arrived with a boatload of migrants on October 3.
They released a mugshot of the man that was taken as he registered with guards on the quayside, claiming he was a refugee.
Authorities arrested him - as is routine for all arrivals - but the next day he was told he would not be prosecuted he booked a ferry ticket to Athens.

He later stopped in both Serbia and Croatia, but was allowed to continue unimpeded because officials said they had no reason to suspect him.

A spokesman for the Croatian interior ministry said: 'There was no record about him at the time of registration and there was no reason for us to stop him.

'We did not label him as potentially suspicious.'

The Serbians said they found no record of any Interpol warrant in his name, so did not detain him.
Last night the mayor of Leros warned the whole of Europe should be fearful about the possibility of more atrocities being conducted by jihadists entering the continent among the crowds of migrants.

Terrorists blew up their suicide vests when police raided the building to save hostages trapped inside. Above, a victim covered in blood walks near the theatre
Explosion heard during international match Stade de France

Mihalis Kolias told the Mail: 'It's more than dangerous for all of Europe. So many people are passing through our island and now we know amongst them are terrorists. This is a big problem for Europe. We must have more security.

'Most people say "I've lost my papers, I'm from Syria", but nobody knows if they are telling the truth.'

Each week thousands of refugees land on neighbouring Farmakonisi before they are picked up by the Greek coastguard and taken to the largest town on Leros, Lakki.

Humanitarian aid workers and island officials last night confirmed every arrival was given documents permitting onward travel no matter what their circumstances.

When asked how many of the migrants coming to the island are issued the papers, Mr Kolias said: 'Everyone.'

He said people believed to be from Syria are given documents allowing them to travel through Greece for six months, while others who would not be expected to get asylum if they applied, get papers for 30 days.

A humanitarian worker volunteering in the camp next to the quay in Lakki replied 'That does not happen' when asked whether refugees were ever refused papers.

A group of around 40 people claiming to have fled from Afghanistan were last night due to leave the island on a ferry for Athens despite not being able to prove where they came from.

One of the men said they had received travel permits despite not having identification such as passports.
Mr Kolias said there has been a 'minimum of 500' people coming daily to the island, which has a population of 8,000.
Last week a strike by ferry workers meant more than 4,000 migrants were camped in Lakki.

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Mad Zox Zoki vs zdravog razuma i ostatka susjedstva.
Hoće li mu Most pružiti 4 nove godine da temeljito uništi društvo, ne samo ekonomski to je već odavno uradio.

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I Makedonija započinje pripreme za dizanje ograde

"Cilj gradnje ograde nije zatvaranje granice, već kanaliziranje i ograničenje priliva migranata"

Poslije Mađarske, koja je već odavno podignula ogradu na svojim državnim granicama, i Slovenije, koja je započela s njenim postavljanjem, ovih dana će i Makedonija krenuti s pripremama za podizanje ograde sa susjednom Grčkom. Naime, Vijeće za sigurnost Makedonije naredilo je makedonskoj vojsci da započne s pripremama za moguće podizanje ograde i to radi sprječavanja priljeva izbjeglica.

Sastanak Vijeća uslijedio je nakon terorističkog napada u Parizu, a njime je predsjedavao predsjednik Makedonije George Ivanov. U priopćenju nakon sastanka Vijeća navodi se da je "cilj gradnje ograde nije zatvaranje granice, već kanaliziranje i ograničenje priliva migranata" kao i da će taj korak biti poduzet kao krajnja opcija.

Makedonski dužnosnici ne kriju zabrinutost da bi, ukoliko druge zemlje kojima se kreću izbjeglice zabrane protok, Makedonija mogla biti suočena s velikim brojem izbjeglica na svojoj teritoriji. Uz to navodi se i kako je veliki problem činjenica da brojne izbjeglice u Makedoniju ulaze preko nelegalnih prijelaza iz Grčke. Spominje se više od 8.500 neregistriranih izbjeglica koji su na taj način ušli u Makedoniju.

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Zanimljiva studija Instituta u Dohi provedena na 600 osoba u arapskim zemljama i 900 sirijskih izbjeglica u susjednim zemljama od prije godinu dana.

http://english.dohainstitute.org/conten ... f6b1ceba9b

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Jel ovo istina Srbi ? Može neki vaš novinar to provjeriti.

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In Serbia, the price of superglue has increased 100-fold, given that, when spread across a person's fingertips, it temporarily allows an imprint of bogus fingerprints on a biometric EURODAC scanner.

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The most conspicuous press failure, however, concerns the key question: With the EU's border agency Frontex confirming on November 4 that 800,000 have illegally crossed into Europe so far in 2015, each likely paying $1000 to $5000 to a people-smuggler, how is this colossal total expenditure -- entirely outside the means of genuine refugee camp residents in Turkey or Jordan -- being funded?

Georg Spöttle, an Arabic-speaking German national security expert resident in Hungary, with unique access to the intelligence communities in both countries, has been studying the sources of money used by migrants to traverse Europe. He has frequently identified Gulf States, including Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, as the true source of the funds.

Spöttle has also examined some of the thousands of pictures and videos found on mobile phones discarded by migrants before entering Hungary. Many images, in his view, are likely to be in the possession only "of those either sympathetic to terrorism or terrorists themselves."

For other observers, the most alarming evidence thrown up in central Europe by this year's migrant influx lies in the nature of the identity documents being discarded, at the last stop on the Western Balkan route, before migrants head towards the EU's freedom-of-movement zone.


Thousands of migrants cross illegally into Slovenia on foot, in this screenshot from YouTube video filmed in October 2015.
In Serbia, the price of superglue has increased 100-fold, given that, when spread across a person's fingertips, it temporarily allows an imprint of bogus fingerprints on a biometric EURODAC scanner.

Many of the documents thrown away at the Hungarian border include genuine Syrian civilian and military identity papers that would automatically entitle their holder to residence in Germany. The act seems highly irregular: Serbian identity papers, valid Swedish residency documents, papers confirming political refugee status from Jordan, and European passports, have all been found strewn across the border.

The only conclusion that can be drawn from such evidence collected at the EU's external frontier, argues Hungary's most notable security analyst, is that it points to the behavior of individuals intent on establishing jihadist sleeper cells in Europe. Or alternatively, that many Muslims with criminal records, already resident in the EU, could be exploiting the migrant crisis to establish entirely new identities for themselves before disappearing across the continent.

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Da vidimo kako neeuropljani rješavaju pitanje migranata u svojim zemljama.

15 migranata iz Sudana ubijeno na granici kada su pokušali preskočiti ogradu i ući u Izrael.



http://www.vesti.rs/Svet/UBISTVA-NA-SIN ... aelom.html

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