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Evo ja podržavam Izrael.
Za palestinski narod su odgovorne islamske zemlje koje gotovo stotinu godina pale vatru,
I ne žele je ugasiti.



Neka ti je Bog na pomoci. Podrzavati progon i golgotu preko milion ljudi moze bolesna osoba. Iskljucivo.

Da se potamani na desetine obora krava, svinja i ovaca nije dobro. Ni humano. A ne preko milion ljudi dovede u opasnosti i izazove humanitarna katastrofa. Karma je kurva moja Vjekoslava. Kurvetina!

Jebala te goveda, krave i svinje. Kad su kasapi na paraglajderima upali i pobili 1000 ljudi nigdje te nije bilo. Sad si izmigoljila da kmečiš i sereš o govedima i kravama. Mrš.

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Seymour Hersh. Nekad su ovakvi novinari bili pravilo, a ne iznimka.

Ukratko, stanovnici Gaze idu u (privremeno?) izbjeglištvo u šatore u Egipat, a Gaza će biti sravnjena sa zemljom.

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THE PLAN TO WIPE OUT HAMAS

As refugees crowd the border with Egypt, Israel prepares to hit Gaza City with US-supplied bunker busters

It’s been one week since the horrific Hamas attacks on Israel took place, and the shape of what is to come from the Israeli armed forces is clear, and uncompromising.

Over the past week Israeli jets have conducted around-the-clock bombing of non-military targets in Gaza City. Apartment buildings, hospitals, and mosques were torn apart, with no prior warning and no effort to minimize civilian casualties.

By the end of the week Israeli jets were also dropping leaflets telling the citizens of Gaza City and its surrounding areas in the north that those who wished to survive had better start going south—walking if necessary—25 miles or more—to the Rafah border crossing leading to Egypt. As of this writing, it was not clear whether financially stricken Egypt will allow a million immigrants, many of them committed to the Hamas cause, to cross. In the short term, I have been told by an Israeli insider that Israel has been trying to convince Qatar, which at the urging of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was a long-time financial supporter of Hamas, to join with Egypt in funding a tent city for the million or more refugees awaiting across the border. “It’s not a done deal,” the Israeli insider told me. Israeli officials have warned Egypt and Qatar that without a landing site, the refugees will have to “go back to Gaza.”

One possible site, the insider said, is a long abandoned chunk of land in northern part of the Sinai Peninsula, near the border crossing from Gaza, that was the site of an Israeli settlement known as Yamit when the peninsula was seized by Israel after its victory the Six-Day War of 1967. The settlement was evacuated and bulldozed by Israel before Sinai was returned to Egypt in 1982. The Israeli hope is that Qatar and Egypt will take the refugee crisis off its hands.

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Israel’s obvious contempt for the well-being of the citizenry of Gaza amid the forced migration of more than one million starving human beings has captured the world’s attention and led to increasing international condemnation, much of it aimed at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

And so the next stage must come soon. Here is what I have been told, in my conversations in recent days with officials from Israel and elsewhere, including officials I have dealt with in Europe and the Middle East since the Vietnam war, about the Israeli plan for the elimination of Hamas.

The major issue for the Israeli war planners is a reluctance, despite the mobilization of more than 300,000 reservists, to engage in a door-to-door street battle with Hamas in Gaza City. One veteran of the IDF, who served in a high post, told me that half of the Israeli Army has been engaged for the past decade or more in the protection of the increasing number of small settlements scattered in the West Bank where they are bitterly resented by the Palestinian population. “The Israeli planners don’t trust their infantry,” the insider said, nor their willingness to go to war but what could be a disastrous lack of combat experience.

With the starved-out civilian population forced to leave, the Israeli operational plan calls for the Air Force to destroy the remaining structures in Gaza City and elsewhere in the north. Gaza City will be no more. Israel will then begin dropping American-made 5,000-pound bombs known as “bunker busters,” or JDAMs, in the flattened areas where Hamas fighters are known to live and manufacture their missiles and other weapons underground. An improved version of the weapon, known as GBU-43/B, depicted by the media as “the mother of all bombs,” was dropped on a suspected ISIS command center in Afghanistan by the US in April 2017. An early version of the weapon was sold to Israel in 2005, allegedly for use against Iran’s suspected nuclear facilities, and the improved, laser-guided version was authorized for sale to Israel by the Obama administration a decade ago. Even then, the Israeli insider told me, Netanyahu and his advisers understood that Netanyahu’s support for Hamas was dangerous, like “keeping a tiger as a pet.” “He would eat you in a minute.”

The current Israeli war planners are convinced, the insider told me, that the upgraded version of JDAMs with larger warheads would penetrate deep enough underground before detonating—thirty to fifty meters—with the blast and resulting sound wave “killing all within one-half mile.”

The insider said it was his understanding that the Hamas leadership wanted some civilians to stay put because of their need for “human shields.” The new Israeli plan of forced exit means “at least the people would not all be killed.” The concept, he added pointedly, dated back to the early years of América’s Vietnam War, when President John F. Kennedy’s administration authorized the Strategic Hamlet Plan that called for the forced relocation of Vietnamese civilians in contested areas to hastily built housing in areas thought to be controlled by the South Vietnamese. Their deserted lands were then declared to be Free Fire Zones where all who stayed could be targeted by American troops.

The systematic destruction of the remaining buildings in Gaza City will start within days, the Israeli insider said. The bunker-buster JDAMs could come next. Then, in the planners’ scenario, I was told, the Israeli infantry will be assigned to mop-up operations: searching out and killing those Hamas fighters and workers who managed to survive the JDAM attacks.

Asked why the Israeli planners thought the Egyptian government would agree, even if under pressure from the Biden administration, to accept the more than one million refugees from Gaza, the insider said: “We’ve got Egypt by the balls.” He was referring to the recent indictments of Democratic Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey and his wife on federal corruption charges stemming from his business dealings with senior Egyptian officials, and the alleged passing of intelligence about persons serving at the US Embassy in Cairo. Egyptian President Abdul Fatta el-Sisi, who seized power in a 2014 coup, ousting the elected Muslim Brotherhood, is a retired general who headed Egyptian’s military intelligence service from 2010 to 2012.

Not everyone shared the assumption that all would go well after the JDAM attacks, if they take place. One former European intelligence official who served for years in the Middle East told me, “The Egyptians do not want Hamas coming into Egypt, and they will do the minimum.”

When told of the Israeli plan to utilize JDAMS, he said that “a city in rubble is just as dangerous as at any time. The talk of JDAMS is the talk of people who don’t know what to do.

Hamas is saying, ‘Bring it on.’ They are waiting for this.” Using JDAMS “is the talk of a leadership that has been knocked off its feet. This was a carefully planned operation and Hamas knew exactly what the Israeli reaction would be. Urban warfare is awful.”

The official predicted that the Israeli bunker-buster bombs would not penetrate deep enough: Hamas, he said, was operating in tunnels built 60 meters underground that would be able to withstand the JDAM attacks.

Told this, the Israeli insider acknowledged that underground rocks and boulders would limit the capability of the rockets to penetrate deeply, but the underground surface in Gaza City is sandy and would offer little resistance, especially if the JDAMs were released from the highest point possible.

The insider also said the current planning calls for the JDAMs attack, if authorized, to come as early as Sunday or Monday, depending on the efficacy the forced expulsion of Gazi City and south proceeds, with a ground invasion to follow immediately.

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Islamisti love židove po Londonu.



Kako smo i spominjali, Hamas je bio napao one koji su najviše bili za pomirenje.


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Hamas je pripremio obranu u tunelima i Gazu kao grobnicu IDF-u ali ništa od ulaska još

Ide samo bombardiranje, možete mislit kako razvlače pamet Hamasu

Sve su oni smislili ali su ih opet zajebali :thumbup


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Iz današnje perspektive, misliš li da Hamas nije trebao napadati Izrael?


Oni su u ratu i mislim da su ih trebali napasti i da ih opet trebaju napasti kad bude prilika.
Kad se postigne trajni mir, kad se oslobide okupacije i kad se stvori i palestinska država onda mislim da niko ne bi nikog trebao napadat.

Gdje odoše ovakvi naši muslimani s ovih prostora! U tunele hamasa.
Strašno.
Opravdavati upad hamasovih koljača u Izrael i ubijanje cijelih obitelji odgovara mu imenu kojim se predstavlja ...mir u svijetu.
Nevjerojatna sotonska lažljiva mantra.


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Samo ih rokat.

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Karabaja je napisao/la:
Upravo sam se vratio sa trčanja, 4 kilometra sporijim tempom. Danas nisam jeo nista masno niti prženo na ulju. Nisam pio nista gazirano. To je moja nova rezolucija. Viditi potpuno zdrav zivot kako bi maksimalno produžio svoj životni vijek te tako povećao šanse da zdravog uma i tijela lično mogu svjedočiti uništenju Izraela.
Moje procjene su da će se to desiti u narednih 30 godina ali u današnje vrijeme brzog i nezdravog života čovjek ne zna hoće li doživjeti sledećih pet.
Zato sad samo sport, zdrava hrana i bježanje od stresa.

Definicija zdravlja je i zdravi duh.
Nećeš vidjeti uništenje Izraela.


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vjekoslava je napisao/la:
mirusvijetu je napisao/la:

Oni su u ratu i mislim da su ih trebali napasti i da ih opet trebaju napasti kad bude prilika.
Kad se postigne trajni mir, kad se oslobide okupacije i kad se stvori i palestinska država onda mislim da niko ne bi nikog trebao napadat.

Gdje odoše ovakvi naši muslimani s ovih prostora! U tunele hamasa.
Strašno.
Opravdavati upad hamasovih koljača u Izrael i ubijanje cijelih obitelji odgovara mu imenu kojim se predstavlja ...mir u svijetu.
Nevjerojatna sotonska lažljiva mantra.


Kjafiri ne skuže odmah, to je više mir groblja. :zubati

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Gaza je napala Izrael, ne Hamas.
To je kao da kažemo nacistička partija je napala a ne Njemačka.

Gaza snosi odgovornost


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Gaza City će proć lošije nego Stepanakert.

Stepanaker je izgubio samo stanovnike, Gaza će i zgrade.

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Neće IDF ulazit u grad bar prvih mjesec dana. Uzet će manja mjesta okolo.

Razlog zašto IDF treba civile da odu, osim prava civila da budu živi, jest da može srušiti iz zraka svaku zgradu u Gazi.

No, znamo iz Bahmuta da i u potpunosti razrušen grad je dobro skrovište za vojnike.

Bit će potrebno raditi nekoliko vrsta tretmana, da se iskorijeni Hamas.

Ja se nadam da će u određenom trenutku presjeći južno od grada i odsjeći sve puteve bijega za Hamas. I onda čišćenje, možda i 100 000 Hamas vojnika, što je opet sićušna cifra u odnosu na Ukrajinu. Nijedan od 100 000 Hamasovaca se neće pustit živ.

Onda se mogu civili s juga pozvati da napuste jug, te se vrate na sjever, ili ako žele, u Egipat, i onda isto napraviti s jugom. :zubati

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Sinoć na dnevniku su hrvatski hodočasnici rekli da su Arapi u Nazaretu slavili za vrijeme napada.

Naravno da su slavili.
I u Sarajevu.
Slavili su ubojstva i krvoproliće.

Sotonska djeca.

Usput opravdavaju narod Gaze da se ne može pobuniti protiv Hamasa.

Ne vidjeh pobunu palestinske dijaspore protiv tog Hamasa.Ni u Sarajevu.

Gdje nisu na nišanu Hamasa.

Opet padaju u vlastitu zamku.

Izleti zmijski jezik na krv.Nagonski.

Niti im je do pravde niti do suživota već do uništenja Izraela.


Izrael je platio svoju zemlju iznova holokaustom.Cijenom ogromnom.
I opet ima blagoslov.

I bit će ga.


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Ovoliku mržnju prema Izraelu od strane muslimana se zaista može samo sotonizmom objasnit. Kao da su hipnotizirani.
Gledam one snimke iz Pakistana jučer, stotine tisuća ljudi priziva istrebljenje Židova. U očima surova mržnja. Ništa drugo.
Ovaj piše da će trenirat i vježbat da duže živi samo zato da može doživit uništenje Izraela i masakar nad Židovima. Sotonisti

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Jer vam, braćo, neću zatajiti tajne ove, da sami sebe smatrate mudrima, jer sljepoća pade na jedan dio Izraela, sve dok ne uđu neznabošci u punom broju.
I tako će se spasiti sav Izrael, kao što je pisano: "Doći će od Siona Spasitelj i odvratit će bezbožnost od Jakova

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Sinoć na dnevniku su hrvatski hodočasnici rekli da su Arapi u Nazaretu slavili za vrijeme napada.

Naravno da su slavili.
I u Sarajevu.
Slavili su ubojstva i krvoproliće.

Sotonska djeca.

Usput opravdavaju narod Gaze da se ne može pobuniti protiv Hamasa.

Ne vidjeh pobunu palestinske dijaspore protiv tog Hamasa.Ni u Sarajevu.

Gdje nisu na nišanu Hamasa.

Opet padaju u vlastitu zamku.

Izleti zmijski jezik na krv.Nagonski.

Niti im je do pravde niti do suživota već do uništenja Izraela.


Izrael je platio svoju zemlju iznova holokaustom.Cijenom ogromnom.
I opet ima blagoslov.

I bit će ga.


Dobro primjećeno. Ni dijaspora nema loše riječi o Hamasu. Jel se i tamo Hamasa boje, i tjera ih da ga podržavaju?

Možda imaju u dijaspori i još jaču potporu, ko DF i SDA. Ono kad iz daljine navijaju, ne žive sami posljedice.

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Rimljanima 11:25, 26

Jer vam, braćo, neću zatajiti tajne ove, da sami sebe smatrate mudrima, jer sljepoća pade na jedan dio Izraela, sve dok ne uđu neznabošci u punom broju.
I tako će se spasiti sav Izrael, kao što je pisano: "Doći će od Siona Spasitelj i odvratit će bezbožnost od Jakova


To se još nije ostvarilo, bezbožnost još nije odvraćena. Još nisu spoznali Sina

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Seymour Hersh. Nekad su ovakvi novinari bili pravilo, a ne iznimka.

Ukratko, stanovnici Gaze idu u (privremeno?) izbjeglištvo u šatore u Egipat, a Gaza će biti sravnjena sa zemljom.

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SEYMOUR HERSH

THE PLAN TO WIPE OUT HAMAS

As refugees crowd the border with Egypt, Israel prepares to hit Gaza City with US-supplied bunker busters

It’s been one week since the horrific Hamas attacks on Israel took place, and the shape of what is to come from the Israeli armed forces is clear, and uncompromising.

Over the past week Israeli jets have conducted around-the-clock bombing of non-military targets in Gaza City. Apartment buildings, hospitals, and mosques were torn apart, with no prior warning and no effort to minimize civilian casualties.

By the end of the week Israeli jets were also dropping leaflets telling the citizens of Gaza City and its surrounding areas in the north that those who wished to survive had better start going south—walking if necessary—25 miles or more—to the Rafah border crossing leading to Egypt. As of this writing, it was not clear whether financially stricken Egypt will allow a million immigrants, many of them committed to the Hamas cause, to cross. In the short term, I have been told by an Israeli insider that Israel has been trying to convince Qatar, which at the urging of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was a long-time financial supporter of Hamas, to join with Egypt in funding a tent city for the million or more refugees awaiting across the border. “It’s not a done deal,” the Israeli insider told me. Israeli officials have warned Egypt and Qatar that without a landing site, the refugees will have to “go back to Gaza.”

One possible site, the insider said, is a long abandoned chunk of land in northern part of the Sinai Peninsula, near the border crossing from Gaza, that was the site of an Israeli settlement known as Yamit when the peninsula was seized by Israel after its victory the Six-Day War of 1967. The settlement was evacuated and bulldozed by Israel before Sinai was returned to Egypt in 1982. The Israeli hope is that Qatar and Egypt will take the refugee crisis off its hands.

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Israel’s obvious contempt for the well-being of the citizenry of Gaza amid the forced migration of more than one million starving human beings has captured the world’s attention and led to increasing international condemnation, much of it aimed at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

And so the next stage must come soon. Here is what I have been told, in my conversations in recent days with officials from Israel and elsewhere, including officials I have dealt with in Europe and the Middle East since the Vietnam war, about the Israeli plan for the elimination of Hamas.

The major issue for the Israeli war planners is a reluctance, despite the mobilization of more than 300,000 reservists, to engage in a door-to-door street battle with Hamas in Gaza City. One veteran of the IDF, who served in a high post, told me that half of the Israeli Army has been engaged for the past decade or more in the protection of the increasing number of small settlements scattered in the West Bank where they are bitterly resented by the Palestinian population. “The Israeli planners don’t trust their infantry,” the insider said, nor their willingness to go to war but what could be a disastrous lack of combat experience.

With the starved-out civilian population forced to leave, the Israeli operational plan calls for the Air Force to destroy the remaining structures in Gaza City and elsewhere in the north. Gaza City will be no more. Israel will then begin dropping American-made 5,000-pound bombs known as “bunker busters,” or JDAMs, in the flattened areas where Hamas fighters are known to live and manufacture their missiles and other weapons underground. An improved version of the weapon, known as GBU-43/B, depicted by the media as “the mother of all bombs,” was dropped on a suspected ISIS command center in Afghanistan by the US in April 2017. An early version of the weapon was sold to Israel in 2005, allegedly for use against Iran’s suspected nuclear facilities, and the improved, laser-guided version was authorized for sale to Israel by the Obama administration a decade ago. Even then, the Israeli insider told me, Netanyahu and his advisers understood that Netanyahu’s support for Hamas was dangerous, like “keeping a tiger as a pet.” “He would eat you in a minute.”

The current Israeli war planners are convinced, the insider told me, that the upgraded version of JDAMs with larger warheads would penetrate deep enough underground before detonating—thirty to fifty meters—with the blast and resulting sound wave “killing all within one-half mile.”

The insider said it was his understanding that the Hamas leadership wanted some civilians to stay put because of their need for “human shields.” The new Israeli plan of forced exit means “at least the people would not all be killed.” The concept, he added pointedly, dated back to the early years of América’s Vietnam War, when President John F. Kennedy’s administration authorized the Strategic Hamlet Plan that called for the forced relocation of Vietnamese civilians in contested areas to hastily built housing in areas thought to be controlled by the South Vietnamese. Their deserted lands were then declared to be Free Fire Zones where all who stayed could be targeted by American troops.

The systematic destruction of the remaining buildings in Gaza City will start within days, the Israeli insider said. The bunker-buster JDAMs could come next. Then, in the planners’ scenario, I was told, the Israeli infantry will be assigned to mop-up operations: searching out and killing those Hamas fighters and workers who managed to survive the JDAM attacks.

Asked why the Israeli planners thought the Egyptian government would agree, even if under pressure from the Biden administration, to accept the more than one million refugees from Gaza, the insider said: “We’ve got Egypt by the balls.” He was referring to the recent indictments of Democratic Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey and his wife on federal corruption charges stemming from his business dealings with senior Egyptian officials, and the alleged passing of intelligence about persons serving at the US Embassy in Cairo. Egyptian President Abdul Fatta el-Sisi, who seized power in a 2014 coup, ousting the elected Muslim Brotherhood, is a retired general who headed Egyptian’s military intelligence service from 2010 to 2012.

Not everyone shared the assumption that all would go well after the JDAM attacks, if they take place. One former European intelligence official who served for years in the Middle East told me, “The Egyptians do not want Hamas coming into Egypt, and they will do the minimum.”

When told of the Israeli plan to utilize JDAMS, he said that “a city in rubble is just as dangerous as at any time. The talk of JDAMS is the talk of people who don’t know what to do.

Hamas is saying, ‘Bring it on.’ They are waiting for this.” Using JDAMS “is the talk of a leadership that has been knocked off its feet. This was a carefully planned operation and Hamas knew exactly what the Israeli reaction would be. Urban warfare is awful.”

The official predicted that the Israeli bunker-buster bombs would not penetrate deep enough: Hamas, he said, was operating in tunnels built 60 meters underground that would be able to withstand the JDAM attacks.

Told this, the Israeli insider acknowledged that underground rocks and boulders would limit the capability of the rockets to penetrate deeply, but the underground surface in Gaza City is sandy and would offer little resistance, especially if the JDAMs were released from the highest point possible.

The insider also said the current planning calls for the JDAMs attack, if authorized, to come as early as Sunday or Monday, depending on the efficacy the forced expulsion of Gazi City and south proceeds, with a ground invasion to follow immediately.


Ovo bi trebala bit domaća zadaća, ako itko troši vrijeme na praćenje ovog rata, bolje mu je ovo pročitat nego 20 sati diskutirat.

A više manje, ovo je elaboranija verzija onoga što sam predložio još prekjučer

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Da stavim ovdje, prikladnije mjesto.

Dakle.

Treba uzeti sve do Wadi Gaza.

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Gaza City, ali i još ovaj prostor do wadi da im nije na raspolaganju za graditi nikakva izbjeglička naselja tu.

Idealno, svi civili napuste Gazu, izraelska vojska presječe upravo kod Wadi Gaza, i onda stravni cijelu Gaza City sa zemljom, jer sve što ostane je po definiciji ili Hamas, ili logistika Hamasa.

Da bi se dodatno osiguralo da nema povratka, niti zahtjeva za povratak, sravniti cijelu Gaza City za zemljom, svaku zgradu, tijekom borbi protiv Hamasa, pri čemu će se jednostavno moći maksimalno tući svom artiljerijom i bombarderima iz zraka bez ikakvih ograničenja, ko Bahmut ili Dresden, jer se radi o gradu bez civila.

Eto, to je moj prijedlog.

Civilne žrtve minimalne. Učinak maksimalan.

Ovo je povoljno i zato sto se odbacuju radikali još 15 km dalje od Tel Aviva i Jeruzalema, a Ashdod postaje siguran grad.

Novi grad na mjestu gdje je danas Gaza, postaje nova linija obrane.

Izrael dobija još 15 km obale.

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Jer vam, braćo, neću zatajiti tajne ove, da sami sebe smatrate mudrima, jer sljepoća pade na jedan dio Izraela, sve dok ne uđu neznabošci u punom broju.
I tako će se spasiti sav Izrael, kao što je pisano: "Doći će od Siona Spasitelj i odvratit će bezbožnost od Jakova


To se još nije ostvarilo, bezbožnost još nije odvraćena. Još nisu spoznali Sina


Nije se ostvarilo naravno. Ostvarit će se kad "neznabošci u punom broju" provale u Izrael. Tad će Mesija odnosno Isus Sin spasit Izraelce odnosno progledat će i prihvatit Mesiju.
Dakle tek na smaku svijeta.

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Jer vam, braćo, neću zatajiti tajne ove, da sami sebe smatrate mudrima, jer sljepoća pade na jedan dio Izraela, sve dok ne uđu neznabošci u punom broju.
I tako će se spasiti sav Izrael, kao što je pisano: "Doći će od Siona Spasitelj i odvratit će bezbožnost od Jakova


To se još nije ostvarilo, bezbožnost još nije odvraćena. Još nisu spoznali Sina

Svojom su krvlju platili iskupljenje kao ni jedan narod na zemlji.
A sin je bio Židov i radi toga mrze Izrael.

Mi priznajemo njihovog sina.Dovoljno i za njih i za nas.
Izrael jest izabran narod od Boga.
Ne boje se. Trpe.Mobiliziraju se u obrani za 24 sata.
Zar je čudno da su upravo oni izabrani da ponesu Božju riječ?


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Geopolitička sex orgija.

Možda će biti poznato kao Treći svjetski proxy rat.

Svi u ratu osim velikih sila, lančano detoniranje svih zaleđenih sukoba između manjih zemalja u svijetu.

I svi su u nekom 4D šahu. Samo da vidimo tko je najbolji šahista.

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Svojom su krvlju platili iskupljenje kao ni jedan narod na zemlji.
A sin je bio Židov i radi toga mrze Izrael.

Mi priznajemo njihovog sina.Dovoljno i za njih i za nas.
Izrael jest izabran narod od Boga.
Ne boje se. Trpe.Mobiliziraju se u obrani za 24 sata.
Zar je čudno da su upravo oni izabrani da ponesu Božju riječ?


Ne, Izrael se mrzi jer ih je Bog prepustio njihovim neprijateljima jer su odbacili Sina. Kao i u Starom zavjetu kad su svaki put kad su se odali idolopoklonstu prepušteni svojim neprijateljima.

a najteže, otkad su ubili Sina su progonjeni i ubijani. Ali oni 2000. godina postavljaju uporno pitanje "zašto?" odbijajući vidjeti da im je odgovor pred očima.

i nisu ništa iskupili, jer samo je jedan koji može iskupiti. Oni su I DALJE u stanju nevjere i bezbožnosti.

Bog je samo dopustio, nakon najgoreg progona, a pred posljednja vremena, pred dolazak Antikrista, da se uspostavi lažna država židovska, kojoj nije kralj Mesija nego Antikrist, koja ne štuje Boga nego Vraga i samu sebe, da se zavedu oni koji u sebeljublju misle da se sami mogu iskupiti i spasiti, da su postigli pobjedu, ali će im kad pomisle da su najjači i svemoćni, biti pokazano da su bez Sina ništa.

Naći će se opet na rubu uništenja, i bili bi opet uništeni, da ih Sin osobno ne spasi, kako bi povjerovali u Njega. Ovo sada je samo dopušteno vrijeme da se uznesu oni koji misle da je moguće iskupiti se i spasiti bez Sina.

i Sin nije njihov, nego Sin Čovječji i Sin Božji, Zato što su čekali "svoga", zato ga i nisu prepoznali, nego ubili.

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Jedini tko ovdje može započeti ww3 je Iran koji je stranac ovdje, oni uopće nisu Arapi, još su šije.

Reuf kmeči kako zaljevske monarhije nemaju demokraciju i kako ne slušaju narod koji želi napasti Izrael :D

Bitnija im je kupovina PSG-a i sranje u usta Soraji i sličnima


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Svojom su krvlju platili iskupljenje kao ni jedan narod na zemlji.
A sin je bio Židov i radi toga mrze Izrael.

Mi priznajemo njihovog sina.Dovoljno i za njih i za nas.
Izrael jest izabran narod od Boga.
Ne boje se. Trpe.Mobiliziraju se u obrani za 24 sata.
Zar je čudno da su upravo oni izabrani da ponesu Božju riječ?


Ne, Izrael se mrzi jer ih je Bog prepustio njihovim neprijateljima jer su odbacili Sina. Kao i u Starom zavjetu kad su svaki put kad su se odali idolopoklonstu prepušteni svojim neprijateljima.

a najteže, otkad su ubili Sina su progonjeni i ubijani. Ali oni 2000. godina postavljaju uporno pitanje "zašto?" odbijajući vidjeti da im je odgovor pred očima.

i nisu ništa iskupili, jer samo je jedan koji može iskupiti. Oni su I DALJE u stanju nevjere i bezbožnosti.

Bog je samo dopustio, nakon najgoreg progona, a pred posljednja vremena, pred dolazak Antikrista, da se uspostavi lažna država židovska, kojoj nije kralj Mesija nego Antikrist, koja ne štuje Boga nego Vraga i samu sebe, da se zavedu oni koji u sebeljublju misle da se sami mogu iskupiti i spasiti, da su postigli pobjedu, ali će im kad pomisle da su najjači i svemoćni, biti pokazano da su bez Sina ništa.

Naći će se opet na rubu uništenja, i bili bi opet uništeni, da ih Sin osobno ne spasi, kako bi povjerovali u Njega. Ovo sada je samo dopušteno vrijeme da se uznesu oni koji misle da je moguće iskupiti se i spasiti bez Sina.

i Sin nije njihov, nego Sin Čovječji i Sin Božji, Zato što su čekali "svoga", zato ga i nisu prepoznali, nego ubili.


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