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Korisniče salalahualejhiveseleme moraš shvatit da se ovde ljudima ne da čitati islamska mitologija i čudesa Alahovog mesinđera. Ovde je rasprava o Izraelu, da citiram tebe, a ne o islamu. Napravite temu islam vs. kršćanstvo pa tamo raspravljajte. Ovako ćete samo odvest temu u krivom smjeru.


Ako je istina,a nije,da je Ismael glavni baja,onda to direktno implicira neke stvari i daje "teološko" opravdanje Arapima i islamu da zbrišu Židove.Dakle,itekako je bitno za temu o Izraelu.

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Kako god, Europa ima dužnost braniti Izrael kako svog civilizacijskog saveznika protiv svih arapskih okupatora i napadača. Zato treba kritizirati svaku "mekšu" odluku, kao onu npr. od Europskog parlamenta neki dan. To mogu samo neprijatelji Europe, ići na ruku arapskom jačanju. Neprijatelji europe, tj. europski marksisti i liberali.


Izrael ostaje na kraju sam.To također stoji u Bibliji.Tako da sve te odluke možemo gledati u svjetlu tih biblijskih proročanstava,naravno,tko u to vjeruje.


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http://www.ibn-sina.net/bs/component/content/article/493-proces-islamizacije-irana--prva-dva-stoljea-muslimanske-vlasti.html
rije nego što kažemo nešto o prvim kontaktima muslimana s Iranom, važno je napomenuti da su još u trećem stoljeću neka arapska nomadska plemena, iskoristivši sukobe između Bizanta i Perzije, naselila prostore oko Eufrata, na kojima su formirali grad Hira (područje današnje Kufe), koji se razvio iz prvobitnog logora ovih nomada.[18] Zahvaljujući živim kontaktima s Bizantincima i Perzijancima, ovi Arapi su ostvarili znatan kulturni napredak u odnosu na svoje sunarodnjake na Arabijskom poluotoku, te se među njima raširilo kršćansko i zoroastrijansko učenje. Upravo ovi Arapi, nakon prihvatanja islama, kasnije će vršiti prve upade na teritorije pod vlašću sasanidskih vladara i apelirati na halifu Ebu Bekra da povede pohod na Perziju.

S druge strane, bitno je znati da je u vrijeme pojave islama u Arabiji vlast u Jemenu bila pod kontrolom Perzijanaca, ondosno tamošnji vladari bili su vazali sasanidskih careva. U Jemenu je u to vrijeme živjela značajna iranska zajednica, sastavljena od potomaka Iranaca koji su u doba Anuširvana pristigli ondje kao ispomoć jemenskom vladaru Sejfu ibn Zijaznu (Sayf ibn Ziyazn) u borbi protiv Abesinaca. Ustvari, radilo se o osuđenicima na smrtnu kaznu koji su svoje živote mogli otkupiti učešćem u ovom ratu.

U vrijeme pojave islama, Jemenom je vladao Iranac Bazan ibn Sasan. Poslanikovi ratovi protiv arapskih idolopokloničkih plemena i kurejšijskih idolopoklonika odvijali su se upravo u doba Bazanove vladavine u Jemenu. Bazan je Jemenom vladao pod pokroviteljstvom Husreva Parviza te je imao nadzor i nad područjem Hidžaza i Tahame, tako da je Husreva Parviza redovno izvještavao o Poslanikovom djelovanju.[19]

Shodno predajama, nakon što je Poslanik islama odaslao Husrevu Parvizu pismo u kome ga poziva u islam, perzijski vladar se žestoko rasrdio, te je naredio Bazanu da ispita taj slučaj. Ovaj je odmah otpravio u Medinu svoje izaslanstvo, koje je Poslanik obavijestio o tome da je Husrev, njihov vrhovni vladar, u međuvremenu umro, mada vijest o tome još nije stigla u Arabiju. Pošto se izaslanstvo vratilo u Jemen, uskoro se ispostavilo da je vijest o Husrevovoj smrti bila istinita, što je navelo ove Irance da skupno prihvate islam. U svakom slučaju, historijska je činjenica da je Bazan prihvatio islam te ga je Poslanik islama proglasio legitimnim vladarom Jemena, a uskoro će ovaj Iranac poginuti predvodeći jemenske muslimane u borbi protiv lažnog poslanika Esveda Ansija (Aswad Ansi), tako da ga smatraju prvim iranskim šehidom u historiji islama.[20]


Ne voliš šijite, a 'vamo skidaš sa njihove stranice. Ti čovječe ne znaš čitat, ovo ti je već drugi put. Odnosi se na izvjesne Perzijce u Jemenu, a ne na sve Perzijce. Perzijci u Perziji su se islamizirali sporo i postepeno i to tek nakon muslimanskog osvajanja 633. - 654. Štoviše, arapski osvajači su na sve moguće načine pokušali zatrti perzijsku kulturu, ali to se prominilo tek s Umajadima.

A da bi islamizirali stanovništvo - Abasidi (Arapi) su prvo uvezli zakon da svi birokrati moraju bit muslimani, dalje su islamizaciji doprinijele arapske migracije u Iran. Oni koji su prešli na islam uživali su određene privilegije, pa je islamizacija bila brža u urbanim sredinama, a sporija kod seljaka. Tek u 9. stoljeću, muslimani su postali većina u Iranu, 200 godina nakon osvajanja. Zemljoposjednici koji bi prešli na islam dobivali su zemlju, dok su "nevjernici", uglavnom zoroastrizma plaćali veliki vjerski porez. Čak je i sredinom 10. stoljeća dobar dio Irana bio većinski zoraostistički.


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Korisniče salalahualejhiveseleme moraš shvatit da se ovde ljudima ne da čitati islamska mitologija i čudesa Alahovog mesinđera. Ovde je rasprava o Izraelu, da citiram tebe, a ne o islamu. Napravite temu islam vs. kršćanstvo pa tamo raspravljajte. Ovako ćete samo odvest temu u krivom smjeru.


Ako je istina,a nije,da je Ismael glavni baja,onda to direktno implicira neke stvari i daje "teološko" opravdanje Arapima i islamu da zbrišu Židove.Dakle,itekako je bitno za temu o Izraelu.

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Kako god, Europa ima dužnost braniti Izrael kako svog civilizacijskog saveznika protiv svih arapskih okupatora i napadača. Zato treba kritizirati svaku "mekšu" odluku, kao onu npr. od Europskog parlamenta neki dan. To mogu samo neprijatelji Europe, ići na ruku arapskom jačanju. Neprijatelji europe, tj. europski marksisti i liberali.


Izrael ostaje na kraju sam.To također stoji u Bibliji.Tako da sve te odluke možemo gledati u svjetlu tih biblijskih proročanstava,naravno,tko u to vjeruje.


Muhamedov učitelj je jedno vrijeme bio Bahira, kršćanski pop, nestorijanac. Od njega je Muhamed pokupio osnove o kršćanskoj dogmi i religiji, o starom zavjetu i židovstvu. Pa je s toga Kur'an pun nestočnih tumačenje židovstva i kršćanstva, lažnih umetanja i podmetanja, izvrtanja starijih pravila koja se nađu u Bibliji. Tako je eto i zamijenuo Jišmaela i Izaka. Naravno, iz političkih razloga. Muhamed je bio političar, a ne prorok. To je bitno za shvaćanje islama. Islam je politika, ne samo religija. Tako je krivo protumačio i kršćansko sveto trojstvo, napisao je da kršćani vjeruju da je Isusova majka Bog, ali to ne vjeruju. Nego je on nešto pohvatao od Bahire, ali očito nije do kraja utvrdio znanje. Možda i jest, ali politika je politika, valjalo je lažirati podatke.

Kur'an voli često kontradikcije praviti. Nije samo pitanje Jišmaela i Izaka, već npr. i Noine arke, Isusove smrti itd. Naravno, muslimanima je teško prihvatiti da Kur'an ima greške - jer vjeruju da je svako slovo, riječ i rečenica diktirana od Boga, onako kako je Bog točno htio. Reć da Kur'an nije napisao bog poljuljalo bi temelje islama.


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Izrael je sve ono sto nije Europa, a trebala bi biti, vojno snazan, demografski mlad i vitalan, ekonomski propulzivan. takva Europa bi ponovno izdominirala svijet i ne bi je zaustavilo da se svi zajedno udruze protiv nje.

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Muhamedov učitelj je jedno vrijeme bio Bahira, kršćanski pop, nestorijanac. Od njega je Muhamed pokupio osnove o kršćanskoj dogmi i religiji, o starom zavjetu i židovstvu.


Ja sam čuo za Varaka,ujak od Muhamedove supruge Kadije.


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Muhamedov učitelj je jedno vrijeme bio Bahira, kršćanski pop, nestorijanac. Od njega je Muhamed pokupio osnove o kršćanskoj dogmi i religiji, o starom zavjetu i židovstvu.


Ja sam čuo za Varaka,ujak od Muhamedove supruge Kadije.


Sada čujem za njega. Ali kako god, Muhamed je imao od koga čuti o kršćanstvu, zašto je krivo protumačio kršćansku dogmu, to valjda on zna, ako je kod Alaha. :)


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Na zapadu su mlade izraelske djevojke stekle notornu reputaciju u šoping centrima prodavajući kozmetiku koja kao bazu ima sol iz mrtvog mora. Djevojke su lijepe ko slika, agresivne, koriste sva moguća oružja u ženskom arsenalu ne bi li ljudima prodali precijenjenu kozmetiku (nema izvješene cijene, bubnu što god misle da možeš priuštit) Made in Israel. Jednom liku u NZ su prodali $16,000 kozmetike jer je lik patio od neke amnezije i stalno se vraćao jer nije znao da je već kupio istu stvar 10 puta. :D

Imao sam i ja sudar s njima, ženska nije popuštala, trljala gluposti i kreme u kožu jedno dvadesetak minuta, hihotala se na svaku glupost koju sam spomenuo. Na kraju sam ipak uzeo samo jednu stvar (samo sol za dvadesetak dolara), i dao joj upute kako prepoznati australske Arape (kako im se ne bi javljala) :D Simpa cura, zna znanje, ne sumnjam da će iz mnogih izvući stotine i stotine dolara.

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Doma imam čudotvoran šampon od blata iz Mrtvog mora poznatog po svojim čistećim i ljekovitim svojstvima. :laugh

Made in Israel.

Ne znam točno po čemu je čudotvoran osim što bočica stoji 200-300kn. Eto do pola sam potrošio pa neka stoji. Nek se vidi da se i nama Hrvatima dobro zna podvalit kao i ljudima iz naprednog svijeta. :laugh

Drago mi je da su Izraelci oživili staru židovsku trgovačku sposobnost prodavanja muda pod bubrege. :D

Kad smo kod tih preparata koje kupuju majke/cure/žene pa dobiješ na poklon htio ne htio moram priznat da mi je jedna stvar pravo otkriće.

Tekuće srebro.

Silverex.

http://www.silverex.hr/sprej.html

To sam dobio na poklon prije dvije godine i sjajan je. Recimo poslije brijanja uopće više ne koristim nikakve losione. Zašpricaš se s tim. Osuši se. Nikakvog crvenila, svraba. Ako se porežeš dezinficira, prestane curiti krv, skoro da se ništa ne vidi.

Tako da ga koristim i za dezinfekciju. I učinkovitiji je od alkohola. Na mjesto gdje si se porezao našpricaš, poteče voda s krvi, obrišeš maramicom ili nečim, još jednom pošpricaš, i u 30ak sekundi zaustavljeno krvarenje. Zbilja djeluje. I efikasan je.

U moru beskorisnih proizvoda i preparata kupljenim od strane žena evo jedan koji je dobar.

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moja kolegica se s tim sprica svakodnevno, a predobro izgleda i jebozovna je za poludit, a ima vec punih 38 godina i dvoje djece iza sebe. to je jedna od onih za koju ne kazes dobra je s obzirom da je rodila dvoje, nego kazes da je dobra cim je vidis. :D

da se vratimo na Izrael, on je najbolji ambasador i primjer superiornosti zapadne demokracije nad islamistickim i socijalistickim diktaturama u okruzenju i s vremenom ce Izrael biti sve jaci dok ne postane apsolutni vladar regije.

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Izrael:Uhapšeno 8 članova Lehave
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Tel Aviv -- Izraelska policija uhapsila je prošle noći još osmoricu jevrejskih aktivista iz ekstremističke grupe Lehava, koja se protivi arapsko-jevrejskoj koegzisteniciji.


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Ranije uhapšeni lider Lehave Benci Gopštajn (Foto: Beta/AP, arhiva)
To je drugo hapšenje pripadnika te grupe u roku od nedelju dana. Osumnjičeni su uhapšeni u seriji racija u centralnom i južnom Izraelu i na okupiranoj Zapadnoj obali, precizirala je policijska portparolka Luba Samri.

Sva osmorica pripadaju Lehavi, ekstremističkoj desničarskoj grupi, koja se pre svega bori protiv mešanih brakova između Jevreja i Arapa. Ona je umešana u podmetanje požara u jevrejsko-arapskoj školi prošlog meseca.

Osmorica pripadnika Lehave su uhapšeni radi ispitivanja, pod sumnjom da huškaju na akte nasilja i teror iz rasističkih motiva, navela je Samri u saopštenju.

Hapšeni su u Hercliji i Rišon Lecionu kraj Tel Aviva, na jugu u Netivotu, u Jerusalimu i Beitar Ilitu, jevrejskom naselju na Zapadnoj obali.

U odvojenom incidentu petoro jevrejskih mladića, uključujući četvoricu maloletnika su uhapšeni u parku u Jerusalimu. Oni su nosili vojničke noževe i šrafcigere i skupljali kamenice da napadnu Arape, preneo je AFP.

Prošlog utorka policija ja uhapsila 10 pripadnika Lehave širom Izraela i Zapadne obale. Među uhapšenima je i lider te grupe Benci Gopštajn, koji živi u jevrejskom naselju u podeljenom gradu Hebronu na Zapadnoj obali.

Gopštajn i još dvojica su pušteni u kućni pritvor u petak, objasnili je Samri, nagovestivši da će po svoj prilici protiv njih biti podignuta optužnica u narednim danima. Preostala sedmorica su uslovno puštena.

Početkom decembra policija je uhapsila trojicu članova Lehave, pod sumnjom da su podmetnuli vatru u prvi razred u školi "Ruka u ruci" u Jerusalimu 8. novembra. Na zidovima škole ispisali su poruke "Smrt Arapima" i "Nema koegzistencije sa kancerom".

Aktivisti Lehave slede učenja pokojnog rabina Meira Kahane, koji se oštro protivio Arapima i čija je partija Kah zabranjena 1994. godine, nakon što je jedan od članova ubio 29 muslimanskih vernika u džamiji u Hebronu.


http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php ... _id=938834

Pravda za Lehavu !!!

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Ako je istina,a nije,da je Ismael glavni baja,onda to direktno implicira neke stvari i daje "teološko" opravdanje Arapima i islamu da zbrišu Židove.Dakle,itekako je bitno za temu o Izraelu.



Izrael ostaje na kraju sam.To također stoji u Bibliji.Tako da sve te odluke možemo gledati u svjetlu tih biblijskih proročanstava,naravno,tko u to vjeruje.


Muhamedov učitelj je jedno vrijeme bio Bahira, kršćanski pop, nestorijanac. Od njega je Muhamed pokupio osnove o kršćanskoj dogmi i religiji, o starom zavjetu i židovstvu. Pa je s toga Kur'an pun nestočnih tumačenje židovstva i kršćanstva, lažnih umetanja i podmetanja, izvrtanja starijih pravila koja se nađu u Bibliji. Tako je eto i zamijenuo Jišmaela i Izaka. Naravno, iz političkih razloga. Muhamed je bio političar, a ne prorok. To je bitno za shvaćanje islama. Islam je politika, ne samo religija. Tako je krivo protumačio i kršćansko sveto trojstvo, napisao je da kršćani vjeruju da je Isusova majka Bog, ali to ne vjeruju. Nego je on nešto pohvatao od Bahire, ali očito nije do kraja utvrdio znanje. Možda i jest, ali politika je politika, valjalo je lažirati podatke.

Kur'an voli često kontradikcije praviti. Nije samo pitanje Jišmaela i Izaka, već npr. i Noine arke, Isusove smrti itd. Naravno, muslimanima je teško prihvatiti da Kur'an ima greške - jer vjeruju da je svako slovo, riječ i rečenica diktirana od Boga, onako kako je Bog točno htio. Reć da Kur'an nije napisao bog poljuljalo bi temelje islama.


Bahira nije bio Muhameda a.s učitelj nego je spoznao znakove na njemu.
Apostoli piše Bibliju poslije Isusa a.s poslije 100 godina i slično je hadisima koji nisu neki tačni tako i Biblija se nije mgla očuvati.
e Prophet’s first meeting with a Christian occurred when he, as a young boy aged between nine or twelve, he joined his uncle’s (Abu Talib) merchant caravan for a trip to Syria it was his first journey north.

So After days of travel, the caravan arrived at a place near Syria called Bostra, a Roman colonial city. The Romans used to come here to trade with the Arabs. Near this marketplace lived a monk called Bahira’. His cell had been used by generations of monks before him and contained ancient manuscripts.

Monk Bahira was known for his belief that a prophet was soon to appear among the Arabs. Bahira had studied old manuscripts, where he had learned of the coming of a final prophet, and he was convinced that this prophet would appear in his own lifetime. He was particularly interested in the Arab merchants who visited Syria, to see if his conviction would come true.

Bahira' saw the caravan in the distance and was amazed to see that over it was a large white cloud. It was the only cloud in a clear blue sky and it appeared to be shading one of the travelers. The monk was even more surprised to see that the cloud seemed to follow the caravan but disappeared when the person it was shading sat down under a tree.

When he also noticed that a tree lowered its branches over the caravan to provide further shade, he immediately realized that this caravan must contain an extraordinary person or persons.

Bahira’ knew from the scriptures that a prophet was expected to come after Jesus and it had been his wish to see this prophet before he died. Realizing that what he had just seen was a miracle, he began to think that his wish might, after all, come true.

The monk sent an invitation to the Meccans to come and eat with him. The Arabs were surprised because they often passed by and Bahira’ had never invited them before. When the group was all together for the meal, the monk said, 'Is this everyone?’ 'No', someone said, 'a boy was left watching the camels.'

Bahira’ insisted that the boy should join them. The boy was Muhammad (pbuh). When he arrived Bahira’ said nothing, but watched him all through the meal. He noticed many things about his appearance which fitted the description in the old manuscripts. Later on he took him aside and asked Muhammad (pbuh) many questions.

Bahira began to scrutinize hime very intently, looking at various parts of his body and finding certain qualities in him. Finally, when all had finished dining and had dispersed, Bahira went up to the boy and said, "Boy, by al-Lat and al-Uzza I charge you to answer what I will ask you." Bahira only used these words because he had the boy's people swearing by these two gods.

They claim that the Messenger of God told him: "Don't ask me anything by al-Lat and al-Uzza; for, by God, I hate nothing more than them." So Bahira said, "By God, would you tell me about waht I ask you?" So the boy told hime to ask whatever he liked.
The monk then asked him various questions about his sleep, habits, circumstances, and so on; and the Messenger of God responded. And what Bahira heard matched the description he expected.

The he looked at the boy's back and saw the seal of prophethood between his shoulders, in the very place according to the description he had.

They talked together about Allah, and about Muhammad's life and family. What was said made Bahira certain that this was indeed the Prophet who would follow Jesus.

Having conlcuded this, he went to the boy's uncle Abu Talib and asked, "What relation is he to you?" "He is my son," he replied.

Bahira objected, "He's not your son. This boy can't have a living father, he is destined to grow up an orphan."

"Well," Abu Talib replied, "he 's actually my newphew."

"And what happened to his father?" the monk asked.

"He died while the boy's mother was still pregnant with him."

"Now you're telling the truth," the monk went on.

He recognized the Prophet and said while taking his hand:
“This is the master of all humans. Allâh will send him with a Message which will be a mercy to all beings.”

Abu Talib asked: “How do you know that?”

He replied: “When you appeared from the direction of ‘Aqabah, all stones and trees prostrated themselves, which they never do except for a Prophet. I can recognize him also by the seal of Prophethood which is below his shoulder, like an apple. We have got to learn this from our books.”

He also asked Abu Talib to send the boy back to Makkah and not to take him to Syria for fear of the Jews. Abu Talib obeyed and sent him back to Makkah with some of his men servants and he ordered Abu Talib to watch over Muhammad (pbuh) with great care.

collected from The seerah

Also

So lets look a vry few references about Prophet Muhammad (saw) foretold in the Torah and Bible
and some of what what Monk Bahira knew from this books

The coming of Prophet Muhammad (saw)had been foretold in the Torah. God had said to Moses:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him" Deuteronomy 18:18

Who in the Old Testament were the brethren of the sons of Israel if not the sons of Ismael? (descended from Abraham's first wife Hagar at the well of Zam Zam at Makkah called Bakkah in those days) Who else could have been the Prophet like unto Moses? Who was more similar to him than the Prophet Muhammad (saw) ?

The prophecy in Bible has been fulfilled by the advent of Prophet Muhammad(saw) . Jesus says in the Bible,
John 16:7 and 16:13: "If I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you, but if I depart I will send him unto you . . .We will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak of himself but whatever he shall hear, that shall he speak . . ."

Genesis 17:7 Covenant Allah (Elohim in Hebrew) made with Abraham and Ishmael

Mecca the old name is Bacca the Holy spring of Zam-Zam is also mentioned too

Psalm 84 is talking about the pilgrimage of King David to the Holy House of the Lord.

The Holy House of the Lord is expressed in psalm 84 in three forms:
In verse 1) as the dwelling place of the LORD
In verse 2) as the courts of the LORD
In verse 4) as the house of the LORD

Well, we have a House of the Lord. But we all know that King Solomon built the House of the Lord in Jerusalem. Hence David was not talking about Jerusalem King David was talking about another house.

In Psalm 84:5-6 you find that pilgrimage was done when David passed through the Valley of Baca.

Psalm 84:5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimage
Psalm 84:6 As they pass through the Baca valley, they find spring water to drink. Also from pools the Lord provides water for those who lose their way. (the holy well or spring of Zam-Zam found at Mecca)

Then, what is Baca?

Baca is Bakkah or Bekka or Becca or Bakka or Bacca; all are Mecca.

'the first house ever to be built for people was that at Bakkah (Mecca) blessed and a guidance for the worlds'.
3:96 of the Noble Quran.
Prophet Muhammad was a receptacle of Divine revelation and Angel Gabriel used to bring the words from God, which would be "etched" upon his heart. The first revelation to Prophet Muhammad at the cave of Mount Hira:

Bahira je sreo Poslanika kad je poslanik imao 12 godina i vidio znakove na njemu ali Muhamed a.s prima objavu sa 40 godina.

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rije nego što kažemo nešto o prvim kontaktima muslimana s Iranom, važno je napomenuti da su još u trećem stoljeću neka arapska nomadska plemena, iskoristivši sukobe između Bizanta i Perzije, naselila prostore oko Eufrata, na kojima su formirali grad Hira (područje današnje Kufe), koji se razvio iz prvobitnog logora ovih nomada.[18] Zahvaljujući živim kontaktima s Bizantincima i Perzijancima, ovi Arapi su ostvarili znatan kulturni napredak u odnosu na svoje sunarodnjake na Arabijskom poluotoku, te se među njima raširilo kršćansko i zoroastrijansko učenje. Upravo ovi Arapi, nakon prihvatanja islama, kasnije će vršiti prve upade na teritorije pod vlašću sasanidskih vladara i apelirati na halifu Ebu Bekra da povede pohod na Perziju.

S druge strane, bitno je znati da je u vrijeme pojave islama u Arabiji vlast u Jemenu bila pod kontrolom Perzijanaca, ondosno tamošnji vladari bili su vazali sasanidskih careva. U Jemenu je u to vrijeme živjela značajna iranska zajednica, sastavljena od potomaka Iranaca koji su u doba Anuširvana pristigli ondje kao ispomoć jemenskom vladaru Sejfu ibn Zijaznu (Sayf ibn Ziyazn) u borbi protiv Abesinaca. Ustvari, radilo se o osuđenicima na smrtnu kaznu koji su svoje živote mogli otkupiti učešćem u ovom ratu.

U vrijeme pojave islama, Jemenom je vladao Iranac Bazan ibn Sasan. Poslanikovi ratovi protiv arapskih idolopokloničkih plemena i kurejšijskih idolopoklonika odvijali su se upravo u doba Bazanove vladavine u Jemenu. Bazan je Jemenom vladao pod pokroviteljstvom Husreva Parviza te je imao nadzor i nad područjem Hidžaza i Tahame, tako da je Husreva Parviza redovno izvještavao o Poslanikovom djelovanju.[19]



Shodno predajama, nakon što je Poslanik islama odaslao Husrevu Parvizu pismo u kome ga poziva u islam, perzijski vladar se žestoko rasrdio, te je naredio Bazanu da ispita taj slučaj. Ovaj je odmah otpravio u Medinu svoje izaslanstvo, koje je Poslanik obavijestio o tome da je Husrev, njihov vrhovni vladar, u međuvremenu umro, mada vijest o tome još nije stigla u Arabiju. Pošto se izaslanstvo vratilo u Jemen, uskoro se ispostavilo da je vijest o Husrevovoj smrti bila istinita, što je navelo ove Irance da skupno prihvate islam. U svakom slučaju, historijska je činjenica da je Bazan prihvatio islam te ga je Poslanik islama proglasio legitimnim vladarom Jemena, a uskoro će ovaj Iranac poginuti predvodeći jemenske muslimane u borbi protiv lažnog poslanika Esveda Ansija (Aswad Ansi), tako da ga smatraju prvim iranskim šehidom u historiji islama.[20]


Ne voliš šijite, a 'vamo skidaš sa njihove stranice. Ti čovječe ne znaš čitat, ovo ti je već drugi put. Odnosi se na izvjesne Perzijce u Jemenu, a ne na sve Perzijce. Perzijci u Perziji su se islamizirali sporo i postepeno i to tek nakon muslimanskog osvajanja 633. - 654. Štoviše, arapski osvajači su na sve moguće načine pokušali zatrti perzijsku kulturu, ali to se prominilo tek s Umajadima.

A da bi islamizirali stanovništvo - Abasidi (Arapi) su prvo uvezli zakon da svi birokrati moraju bit muslimani, dalje su islamizaciji doprinijele arapske migracije u Iran. Oni koji su prešli na islam uživali su određene privilegije, pa je islamizacija bila brža u urbanim sredinama, a sporija kod seljaka. Tek u 9. stoljeću, muslimani su postali većina u Iranu, 200 godina nakon osvajanja. Zemljoposjednici koji bi prešli na islam dobivali su zemlju, dok su "nevjernici", uglavnom zoroastrizma plaćali veliki vjerski porez. Čak je i sredinom 10. stoljeća dobar dio Irana bio većinski zoraostistički.


Ja nisam rekao da ne volim Šite samo da se to kosi tradicijom Bošnjaka i neizvodivo je .

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Muhamedov učitelj je jedno vrijeme bio Bahira, kršćanski pop, nestorijanac. Od njega je Muhamed pokupio osnove o kršćanskoj dogmi i religiji, o starom zavjetu i židovstvu.


Ja sam čuo za Varaka,ujak od Muhamedove supruge Kadije.

Prophet Muhammad also had some encounters with one of the known Arab Christians in Makka, Waraqa ibn Nawfal. Waraqa was a respected man of his time and a well-known Christian scholar. When the Prophet received his first Qur’anic revelation on Mount Hira, it had a great impact on him. Following this unusual experience, he went home, feeling ill. His wife Khadija took the Prophet to Waraqa and told him about the revelation.7 After listening to Prophet Muhammad, Waraqa said that it was Gabriel, the Angel of Revelation, who had come to him, just as he had come to Moses, and he added, “I wish I were young.”8

Waraqa was an open-minded man; he converted from paganism to Christianity and also understood the features of the revelation that had been given to Muhammad. He sincerely supported Muhammad as a Christian believer when he understood that he was the awaited prophet, after Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them. Waraqa encouraged Muhammad to continue his call, without any doubt that God would protect him. This is a fine example of cooperation between a well known Christian scholar and the would-be Prophet.

The Abyssinian King (Negus) and The First Immigrants

When the Messenger of God began to declare his message openly, the Makkan pagans started to severely oppose him and the new Muslims, making many problems for them. Several Muslims died, with even more being humiliated and alienated. The Prophet realized that Makka was becoming a difficult place for Muslims to live in. He had his uncle as his protector; but there were many Muslims who had no protection from the aggressions of the Makkan pagans. He decided to send some of them to Abyssinia, especially those who had no effective protection; Abyssinia at the time was ruled by a Christian ruler. The Prophet told the group that King (Negus) of Abyssinia was a Christian, so they would be safe there.9 It is likely that Prophet Muhammad had some knowledge that the King was a peaceful and lenient ruler.

At the outset, eleven Muslims immigrated to Abyssinia. Later, they were joined by about 83 adult Muslims, women and men.10 Abyssinia was the Prophet’s choice; he felt that Christians were closer to Muslims than the Makkan pagans. When the first Muslim guests arrived there, they met with the King. Ja’far, as leader of the immigrants, gave the Prophet’s letter to the King, which read: “I have sent my cousin Ja’far to you, accompanied by a small number of Muslims; if he comes to you, receive them in hospitality . . .” The King welcomed them and promised to protect them from their enemies. In the royal presence a question was put to them: “What do you say concerning Jesus?” The spokesman for the group replied, “concerning Jesus we can only say what our Prophet has taught us: Jesus is the servant and messenger of God, the spirit and word of God, whom God entrusted to the Virgin Mary.” When the King Negus heard this testimony, he picked up a twig from the ground and said, “I swear, the difference between what we believe about Jesus, the Son of Mary, and what you have said is not greater than the width of this twig.”11

When the Makkans heard that the Muslims had begun to live within the Christian community peacefully, they sent a delegation of learn-ed people to the King to persuade him to deport the Muslims from Abyssinia. There was a debate in front of the King between the Muslims and the Makkan delegation about what and how the Muslims believed. After the end of the debate, the King rejected the requests of the Makkans along with their gifts.12 This was the first helping hand for the young but frail Muslim community from a Christian ruler.

The Delegation of Najran Christians

No doubt the most important interaction between the Christians and the Prophet was the visit of the Najran delegation to Madina. Makka and Madina had a very small Christian population (Waraqa ibn Nawfal was one of them). The majority of Christian residents lived in Najran. The Prophet’s first important encounter with Christian clergies was in the 9th year of Hijra (AD 631), one or two years before his death.

Prophet Muhammad had been sending official letters to different countries and their rulers, inviting them to Islam. Among these were two different invitations that had been sent to Najran with Khaled ibn al-Walid and Ali ibn Abi Talib.13 At that time the Najran Christians had a highly organized religious life. Before Islam, foreign teachers had even visited the town, such as the Italian priest Gregentius, which had deepen-ed their religious knowledge.14 Few of the Najran Christians converted to Islam; the majority of them did not change their religion after these invitations. Prophet Muhammad sent a representative to them, Mughira ibn Shu’ba, who was sent to explain the invitations and the religion of Islam. After discussions with Mughira, the Christians of Najran decided to send a group of people to visit the Prophet. The delegation was made up of about 60 well-educated Christians: A bishop, his 45 scholars, and 15 men. Their intention was to learn the nature of the revelations Prophet Muhammad was receiving.15

When the Najran delegation reached Madina, they debated with the Prophet in an investigatory dialogue for two or three days in the mosque (Masjid) of Madina. Prophet Muhammad allow-ed them to pray in the mosque (Masjid al-Nabawi) where the Muslims prayed. The whole incident was the first occurrence of peaceful dialogue between Christians and Muslims; it was the first time that Christians prayed in a mosque.16

Prophet Muhammad warmly welcomed the Najran delegation and provided them with a place to stay in Madina, in a secure place close to his mosque. He even ordered that their tent be pitched for them by the Muslims. However, the Najran delegation and Prophet Muhammad were not able to reach a solution in theological terms. At the end of these exchanges, the Najran Christians told the Prophet: “O, Abu al-Qasim, we decided to leave you as you are and you leave us as we are. But send with us a man who can adjudicate things on our properties, because we accept you.” The delegation was granted their request and a written assurance was provided by the Prophet that their lives, property, and religion would be protected. He made witnesses sign this undertaking.17 The Najran Christians were the first Christian community with whom the Prophet had a jizyah 18 agreement. At the beginning of the meeting, they had disagreements with the Prophet about the concept of the Trinity, but later on they were able to make a social pact.19 This contract was an initial step that would lead to further developments.

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Izrael:Uhapšeno 8 članova Lehave
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Tel Aviv -- Izraelska policija uhapsila je prošle noći još osmoricu jevrejskih aktivista iz ekstremističke grupe Lehava, koja se protivi arapsko-jevrejskoj koegzisteniciji.


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Ranije uhapšeni lider Lehave Benci Gopštajn (Foto: Beta/AP, arhiva)
To je drugo hapšenje pripadnika te grupe u roku od nedelju dana. Osumnjičeni su uhapšeni u seriji racija u centralnom i južnom Izraelu i na okupiranoj Zapadnoj obali, precizirala je policijska portparolka Luba Samri.

Sva osmorica pripadaju Lehavi, ekstremističkoj desničarskoj grupi, koja se pre svega bori protiv mešanih brakova između Jevreja i Arapa. Ona je umešana u podmetanje požara u jevrejsko-arapskoj školi prošlog meseca.

Osmorica pripadnika Lehave su uhapšeni radi ispitivanja, pod sumnjom da huškaju na akte nasilja i teror iz rasističkih motiva, navela je Samri u saopštenju.

Hapšeni su u Hercliji i Rišon Lecionu kraj Tel Aviva, na jugu u Netivotu, u Jerusalimu i Beitar Ilitu, jevrejskom naselju na Zapadnoj obali.

U odvojenom incidentu petoro jevrejskih mladića, uključujući četvoricu maloletnika su uhapšeni u parku u Jerusalimu. Oni su nosili vojničke noževe i šrafcigere i skupljali kamenice da napadnu Arape, preneo je AFP.

Prošlog utorka policija ja uhapsila 10 pripadnika Lehave širom Izraela i Zapadne obale. Među uhapšenima je i lider te grupe Benci Gopštajn, koji živi u jevrejskom naselju u podeljenom gradu Hebronu na Zapadnoj obali.

Gopštajn i još dvojica su pušteni u kućni pritvor u petak, objasnili je Samri, nagovestivši da će po svoj prilici protiv njih biti podignuta optužnica u narednim danima. Preostala sedmorica su uslovno puštena.

Početkom decembra policija je uhapsila trojicu članova Lehave, pod sumnjom da su podmetnuli vatru u prvi razred u školi "Ruka u ruci" u Jerusalimu 8. novembra. Na zidovima škole ispisali su poruke "Smrt Arapima" i "Nema koegzistencije sa kancerom".

Aktivisti Lehave slede učenja pokojnog rabina Meira Kahane, koji se oštro protivio Arapima i čija je partija Kah zabranjena 1994. godine, nakon što je jedan od članova ubio 29 muslimanskih vernika u džamiji u Hebronu.


http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php ... _id=938834

Pravda za Lehavu !!!


Ti iz Lehave su izgleda budale. Njihovo djelovanje znači potvrđivanje arapskih mitova o genocidnim židovima, a zbunili su one Arape koji su stali uz Izrael, npr. Druze. Nije prihvatljiv niti jedan ekstremizam. Podržavam pravo židova da imaju nacionalnu državu u granicama Palestine, ali nisam za ovakav način šikaniranja Arapa (kojih ima i kršćana i koji su odani Izraelu).


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Korisniče, nitko nema namjeru čitati kilometarske copy-paste tekstove. Ako ne znaš replicirat kao čovjek - reci ne znam i gotova stvar. Svatko može copy-paste odsvakuda, ali dokle onda?


Rekao sam ti da je nemoguće to bilo za Varuku da govori Muhamedu a.s objavu ili da Muhamed a.s objavu prepisuje kad je bio nepismen.
A i preselio je iz Meke u Medinu.

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Ti iz Lehave su izgleda budale. Njihovo djelovanje znači potvrđivanje arapskih mitova o genocidnim židovima, a zbunili su one Arape koji su stali uz Izrael, npr. Druze. Nije prihvatljiv niti jedan ekstremizam. Podržavam pravo židova da imaju nacionalnu državu u granicama Palestine, ali nisam za ovakav način šikaniranja Arapa (kojih ima i kršćana i koji su odani Izraelu).
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Pa šta ako su ti Arapi Hrišćani, a ima čak i Pravoslavaca ? Ima i Albanaca pravoslavnih, pa to ne znači da su naša braća. Niti su ikada nešto učinili za nas.
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Ti iz Lehave su izgleda budale. Njihovo djelovanje znači potvrđivanje arapskih mitova o genocidnim židovima, a zbunili su one Arape koji su stali uz Izrael, npr. Druze. Nije prihvatljiv niti jedan ekstremizam. Podržavam pravo židova da imaju nacionalnu državu u granicama Palestine, ali nisam za ovakav način šikaniranja Arapa (kojih ima i kršćana i koji su odani Izraelu).
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Pa šta ako su ti Arapi Hrišćani, a ima čak i Pravoslavaca ? Ima i Albanaca pravoslavnih, pa to ne znači da su naša braća. Niti su ikada nešto učinili za nas.
Bliži ste nam vi i Hrvati od njih.


Znam da bit kršćanin ne znači nekako savezništvo samo po sebi. Ali govorio sam konkretno o kršćanima arapskoj jezika u Izraelu, koji čak imaju i svoju stranku koja podržava obvezni vojni rok u Izraelskoj vojsci za kršćane arapskog jezika. Dok su po sadašnjem zakonu svi Arapi oslobođeni obveznog vojnog roka.

Meni u Izraelu više odgovara Likud i Netanjahu, nego ekstremisti iz Lehave. Ne bih volio da Arapi imaju povoda kritizirati Izrael samo zbog nekolicine ekstremista.


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Comparison chart Islam vs Judaism

Position of Abraham A great Prophet. Father of Jewish Nation. From city of Ur. His father was an idol maker, but when he broke an idol, his father told him not to worry, the statue was not God Travelled to what is today Israel & purchased land. He found God during his travels in dessert

All Religions were given the book and are people of the book but are FALSE religions

Jews accept others can have different religions. Jews must obey the law of the land, if ethical.

lieve that Jews & Christians should accept Muhammad as the final Prophet; believe that Baha'is are wrong in believing that Bah-u-llah is a prophet. Jews began Abrahamic religions. Christians share early prophets.The Koran also has renditions of these prophets. The New Testament can be viewed as written by Jews for the Jews of that time.
Prophets Many from Adam, Abraham, Noah, Jesus etc to Muhammed Moses, and the subsequent Prophets of Israel as told in the Jewish Bible (Tanakh).
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Islam_vs_Judaism

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Place of origin Roman province of Judea. The Levant
Place of worship Church, chapel, cathedral, basilica, home bible study, personal dwellings. Synagogues, Western Wall of the Temple in Jerusalem
Practices Prayer, sacraments (some branches), worship in church, reading of the Bible, acts of charity, communion. Prayers 3 times daily, with a fourth prayer added on Shabbat and holidays. Shacarit prayer in the morning, Mincha in the afternoon, Arvit at night; Musaf is an extra Shabbat service.
Time of origin Approx. 33 AD. c 1300 BC
Goal of religion To love God and obey his commandments while creating a relationship with Jesus Christ and spreading the Gospel so that others may also be saved. To celebrate LIFE! To fulfill the Covenant with God. Do good deeds. Help repair the world. Love God with all your heart. Strong social justice ethic.
About Christianity broadly consists of individuals who believe in the deity Jesus Christ. Its followers, called Christians, often believe Christ is "the Son" of the Holy Trinity and walked the earth as the incarnate form of God ("the Father"). Judaism is created by Abraham 2000 BCE and his descendants of Issac and Jacob. The Law: the 10 Commandments was given to Moses (and 600 000 Jews who left Egyptian slavery) in c, 1300 BCE to return to Israel and follow God's will.
Human Nature Man has inherited "original sin" from Adam. Mankind then is inherently evil and is in need of forgiveness of sin. By knowing right and wrong Christians choose their actions. Humans are a fallen, broken race in need of salvation and repair by God. You must choose good from bad. You are responsible for your actions, not thoughts.
Rites Seven sacraments: Baptism, confirmation, Eucharist, penance, anointing of the sick, holy orders, matrimony (Catholic and Orthodox). Anglicans: Baptism and Eucharist. Other denominations: Baptism and communion. For Bar Mitzvah ceremony (13 years old) boys must read from the Torah in front of the congregation, and is then considered an adult. Bat Mitzvah is a similar ceremony for girls.
Resurrection of Jesus Affirmed Simply not mentioned. not part of liturgy in Judaism. Considered authentic part of Christianity.
Followers Christian (follwers of Christ) Jews
Authority of Pope Leader and overseer of the Catholic Church. his authority is completely rejected by Protestants, and is viewed by Orthodox as first among equals. Orthodox and Protestants reject Papal infallibility and Papal supremacy. N/A
Legislation Varies through denomination. Prerogative of the people
Names of God God, Gud, Gott, Deo, Dios. Jehovah, YHWH, Eli Elohim, Allah, (depending on language Christians are of every language and culture around the world) HaShem, Adonai,
Birth of Jesus Virgin Birth, through God. Normal man, normal birth. Not part of liturgy.
Death of Jesus Death by crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension to heaven. Will return. Not mentioned in Jewish texts.
Direction of Prayer Catholics and Orthodox usually face Jerusalem in their prayers but it is not considered necessary, but recommended. God is present everywhere recent reforms have prompted many Christians to not face anywhere in their prayers. Toward Jerusalem.
Religious Law Has existed among Catholics in the form of canon law. Halakhah. Ethics. Commandments. 613 mitzvahs to be followed. Charity. Prayer. Rabbinical rulings with minority opinions. Debate very important part of system. Debate is encouraged in schools. Part of Bible addresses specific laws for everyday life.
Branches Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant. Religious: Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Renewel, Reconstruction. Traditions: Sephard, (Spain, Arab countries, Turkey). Ashkenazi: (Europe, Russia). MIzrachi: (Iraq, Persia, India).
God's role in salvation Humans cannot save themselves or ascend on their own to a higher level. Only God is good and therefore only God is able to save a person. Jesus came down from Heaven to save mankind. Divine revelation of God's law and to judge man's actions. Good deeds, and righteousness. Each New Year, during Yom Kippur, Jews fast and pray for forgiveness from God, and if accepted, are written into the Book of Life, for the next year.
View of Animistic religions Paganism is Heathenism. Witchcraft is communication and interaction with demons, fallen evil angelic beings. These have no real interest ultimately, in helping their worshipers. Demonic possession is common. The earliest Jewish holidays correspond to agricultural seasons. Jews uniquely developed monotheism as a God of All. They were surrounded by pagen tribes who believed in gods based on their location, or nature.
Marriage and Divorce Explained by Jesus in Mathew 19:3-9 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. Therefore what God has put together let man not seperate.' Monogamous. Marriage permitted.
Goal of Philosophy Objective reality. Worship of God who created life, the universe, and is eternal. Christianity has its own philosophy, found in the 66 books of the Bible. To live a proper and Holy Life. To appreciate Life in every way. To do Good Deeds. To live Ethically. To make choice based on Free Will. Universal Education for every Jew; to study, learn. read and write.
Saints Catholics and Orthodox venerate very Holy people as Saints. Most Protestants do not do this. Jewish holy figures are known as Tzaddics.
Confessing sins Protestants confess straight to God, Catholic confess mortal sins to a Priest, and venial sins straight to God (Orthodox have similar practice) Anglicans confess to Priests but considered optional. God always forgives sins in Jesus. Ancient times: there was a sin offering for individuals. Today people individually repair their sins. On Yom Kippur, they confess sins, and ask forgiveness from God. But also they must ask forgiveness directly from any people they may have wronged.
View of other Abrahamic religions Judaism is regarded as a True religion but incomplete (without Gospel, and Messiah) Islam is regarded as a false religion, Christianity does not accept the Qur'an as true. Believe that Christians are wrong in believing that Jesus is the Messiah; they neither believe nor disbelieve that Muhammad and/or Bah-u-llah are prophets.
Offshoot religions Rastafarianism,Universalism, and Deism, and Masonry. Abrahamic religions -- Christianity and Islam.
Symbols Cross, ichthys ("Jesus fish"), Mary and baby Jesus. Star of David
sects Catholic, Protestant, & Orthodox. Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Sephardim, Karaite, Samaritan, and so on.
View of other Dharmic religions N/A N/A.
Holy Days Christmas (celebration of the birth of Jesus), Good Friday (death of Jesus), Sunday (day of rest), Easter (resurrection of Jesus), Lent (Catholicism), saints' feast days. Rosh HaShanah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot, Simchat Torah, Chanukah, Tu BiShvat, Passover, Lag BaOmer, Shavout. Sabbath most important—one day a week no work, just peace, joy and prayer.
Use of statues, images some denominations regard It as forbidden and Idolatry. Anglicans and Lutherans allow pictures but forbid venerating them. Catholics encourage pictures and statues and venerate them. Orthodox encourage pictures and venerate them. Forbidden
War between two churches/ major sects Catholics & Protestants used to be at war in Norther Ireland; In USA, many fundamentalist Protestants vehemently deny Catholics are Christian. Different sects agree and differ with each other. There is room for debate with no violence. Almost never, ever, is there any violence between Jewish sects.
Original Languages Aramaic, Common (Koine) Greek, Hebrew. Hebrew common till 500 BCE, Aramaic and Greek koine till 300 CE. Hebrew always for religious services. Local languages and different extinct and living Jewish languages like Carfati, Jiddish, Ladino, Judesmo etc
Praying to Saints,Mary, and Angel Affirmed, in Catholic, Orthodox, Lutheran, & Anglican(Episcopalian)Christianity; most Protestants do not. N/A.
Original Language Aramaic, Greek, and Latin Hebrew has always been the central language of prayer. From 500 BCE, Aramaic and Greek koine and 'Aramized' Hebrew till 300 CE. Local languages and different extinct and living Jewish languages like Carfati, Yiddish, Ladino, Judesmo.
Promised Holy one. Second Coming of Christ Belief in the Coming of a Messiah.
View of God N/A God is the one True Creator. God has always existed, none existed before him and will exist forever. He transcends life and death. God is one and the only holiness. God is the creator. He is beyond human understanding, he is omnipotent.
Promised Holy One Second Coming Of Christ. The Messiah.
Status of Vedas N/A. N/A.
Virtue(s) in which religion is based upon Love. Justice; strict adherence to God's law. Reading the Holy Books, and following the Commandments.
Three Jewels/Trinity The Blessed Trinity: In the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit God, people, and Israel
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