You've nailed the point here. The whole problem with their relations is Ukranian inferiority complex because Moscow became the Empire, and not them.

About the Mongol-Tatars. Kiev really burned, probably, the residents are not well lived. Well, that Moscowia (Tartaria) was bathed in gold.

About united slavic country. Great idea. But unfortunately unattainable. Fighting between Russia and Ukraine is not ethnict and not slavic conflict. Russians are in the same position as the Ukrainians. They have a common enemy. This is an authoritarian regime, which manipulates the Slavs. And started this regime for a long time ago.

@UkrBosna

Ukranian inferiority complex VS Russian chauvinism. Battle! Fight!

Russia has a lot of great writers, artists, composers. Ukraine does not express claims. Only on ethnic Ukrainian culture

write in the administration of President

Older Croatian version of the name Nicholas was similar to Ukrainian - Mikula (surname is a derivative and is spelled Mikulić).

"Only on ethnic Ukrainian culture"
to parallel that could be drawn to the Ruthenian principalities

They are similar but, but keep in mind that the current flag of BiH was designed by the EU. It is not a traditional flag.



I would say that Ukrainians and Croatians are more similar.

I am attaching links about Ukrainians in Croatia (in Ukrainian).

http://www.savezrusina.hr/ru/

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0 ... 1%96%D1%97

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0 ... 1%96%D1%97

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0 ... 0%BD%D1%96

"majority of Ukrainians would gladly accept to once again adopt Russian name if Kiev would become a new center of this new Russia, and Moscow would become second to Kiev"

In the Russian language the word "Russian" is a verb. It is written as "Русский". Before the population of Russia called "russian people", русскими людьми. Regardless of the origin, man, who lives in Ruthenia called русским человеком (russian man). Kiev residents called themselves Rus. Now this is not used. Historical word Rus is written as Рус (singular), Русы (plural). One of the names Rus was Russian land. "Ukraine" can be translated as the land. Україна - the name of the country, країна - translated as country. It can be read as a Homeland. Playing words we can say that Ukraine retains part of the name Ruthenia. This can be confirmed by some historical documents.

Whether there is inter-ethnic conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I think no. The conflict between politics. Russian politicians say: "Europe and America are our enemies, the Ukrainians, too, are our enemies", Ukrainian politicians say: "Europe and America are our friends, Russia attacked us, so it was an enemy". Russian politicians say: "We must defend the Ukrainian people from the Ukrainians", Ukrainian politicians say: "We must protect the Ukrainian people". Russian politicians say: "Ukrainians it's the Nazis", Ukrainian politicians say: "Russians are terrorists". Russian politicians say: "We are Russia!", Ukrainian politicians say: "We are Ruthenia (speak quietly)".

It says that during the war there is no truth, only propaganda. People who do not know Russian language (maybe it's good) do not understand what the Russian propaganda. Russian mythology extends far beyond Ukraine. There is such a word as a doppelganger.

"In fiction and folklore, a doppelganger or doppelga(e)nger (/ˈdɒpᵊlˌɡɛŋə/ or /-ˌɡæŋə/; German: [ˈdɔpəlˌɡɛŋɐ] ( listen), literally "double-goer") is a look-alike or double of a living person, sometimes portrayed as a paranormal phenomenon, and is usually seen as a harbinger of bad luck. In other traditions and stories, they recognize one's 'double-goer' as an evil twin."

I think that Russian there is doppelganger. Maybe some Ukrainians would gladly accept to once again adopt Russian (Ruthenian) name if Kiev would become a new center of this new Russia, and Moscow would become second to Kiev, but I am against. Cultural and mental differences are present. It is a pity that the Ukrainians were not able to create a civil society and tested do it now. I want all people to live well, but the Russian authoritarian government is going into the abyss. It seems to me that the anti-human policy is conducted, hate policy. In 2014, were 80% Russian news about Ukraine, creating a negative image of it. I think most people do not take moscow-centrism. Moscow they also do not accept. Too many negative events happened to her. Current trends are such that if there is a revisal of the Ukrainian history, Russia it will not get, I think. If not capturing Ukraine

Stecak, thanks.

In the end, all resulted in a discussion of the history and conflict. Tell us more about your country

We should embrace our Rusyn distant relatives.

http://www.carpatho-rusynacademy.org/ru ... story.html
http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/cra/chap3.html
https://books.google.com/books?id=Nzj2D ... ns&f=false

I remembered the beautiful ukrainian lemkos (rusyn) song

@Ukraine dont listen to lider 30 and his likes. They are just butthurt. Croats in BiH enjoy the same rights as every other people, not more not less.

I support your struggle against Russian aggression.

You see, @Ukraine, this is a typical example of islamic propaganda. In BiH Croats have no some basic political and human rights. We have no right to have our national TV chanel, to choose our political representatives, territorial autonomy etc.



And this is so-called taqiya

For you even the weather forecast is islamic propaganda and taqiya. The paranoia and butthurtness is strong within you.

Soothing song. The singer chick is cute too.

Bosniaks claim they want to abolish entities and have a unitary democratic state out of the whole of B&H. That makes sense from their perspective because they are the plurality-majority in that context. They desire that because they want to dominate not because they embrace real democratic principles. For example: Let's say (for argument's sake) we abolish the entities and instead make autonomous areas out of Bosnia AND Herzegovina based on geography and not on ethnicity. In the Bosnia area Bosniaks would make the majority with some 60% or more of the population whereas in the Herzegovina area they would constitute a minority (Croats would be about 61% in Herzegovina - I did the math!) Would they support a democratic Herzegovina? Probably not if they are not the majority.

Bosniaks desire a Bosniak-run Bosnia in the same way Serbs desired a Serb-run Yugoslavia. It's the same story all over again just with slightly different roles (yet the Croats in this context remain the same by defying Serb-Yugoslav hegemony and now Bosniak hegemony).

Sorry for going off topic.

One of my favourit Ukrainan songs. The song can understand, like an enjoy in it just some people, like Croats an Ukrainans. Not some asian-minded muslims like @Amidza.





The same is with conflict in Ukraina. We are sorry because of that sad war between 2 great european, slavic nations, and we pray for end of it. But muslims are happy about that. They believe that the war will make their enemies weaker, thats why they will give you their full support - support for rivers of christian, european, slavic blood.

In the Russian language the word "Russian" is a adjective. Not a verb. Thanks for the support

Little about the identification

Need to understand the difference between the words "русский" (written as russian) and "россиянин" (written as russian too). Русский is slavs nation, россиянин is the name of citizenship. Total population of Russian is called the россияне (russian). 80% of the total population consider themselves to be русскими. Russia has 30% slavs of the total population.

Russian people have problems with self-identification. There are 2 categories of Russian people: Russian Slavs and Russian internationalists.

Russian Slavs are divided into several categories: Russian Orthodox and Russian atheists. They consider themselves Russian Slavic nation. Between them there are contradictions. Some Russian Slavs did not consider themselves to be Russian, for example, the Kuban Cossacks. Also some people in regions can identify themselves as independent ethnic groups. Also Russian nationalists have friction.

Russian internationalists believe that the Russian nation is a international nation. Russian International nation reminds of civilization, as the Americans nation. Some Russian Slavs consider themselves Russian internationalists themselves (for example, the Slavs Socialists). Also if a person does not know or can not identify their nationality, he calls himself a русским.

Between Russian Slavs and Russian internationalists are conflicts. Previously carried out by nationalist rallies in defense of a Russian Slavic identity, until they were banned.
Russian Slavs and Russian imperialists use the word "русский" for identity. You can find a Tartar or other non-Slavs, who calls himself a Russian (русским). Russian Slavs do not like it.

In addition, the Russian nation are not written in the Constitution. Only "Государственным языком Российской Федерации на всей ее территории является русский язык" (The official language of the Russian Federation is Russian). It also does not make clear in the russian identification. I think the Russian government supports the Russian internationalists.

In Ukraine, Ukrainian Slavs have contradictions also. However, in my opinion there are better conditions for the Slavs. Not prohibited Slavic symbolism, allowed Slavic rallies. Сonducted more pro-Slavic policy. I think need to respect all ethnic groups and to remember their history. Perhaps because of this tolerance someone thinks that Ukrainians are divided. I think it makes them united. Ukrainian culture is multi-faceted, and this is its feature.

You mentioned the flag of Bosnia-Herzegovina.

Same colors (there are only two colors) as on the UA flag are a pure coincidence.

The flag has no history, it was randomly invented in 1996 (or 1997, don't remember) and imposed by the Western authorities to serve as a B&H flag, so that the country can have some kind of flag.

Bosnia-Herzegovina is most similar to Cyprus, but it has two Christian nations and one Muslim, instead of one Christian and one Muslim as on Cyprus.

Speaking to a Bosniak I know his answer is this (as a side note its usually only Bosniaks that feel any kind of pride in the current Bosnian flag):

The flag colors were chosen in part to represent the colors or something close to the colors of the EU.



The colors are supposed to show solidarity with Europe. The stars are cut off at the top and bottom of the flag. Stars are supposed to mean that they keep on going on as Europe grows (and eventually accepts Bosnia). The triangle is supposed to represent Bosnia geographically since Bosnia resembles a triangle shape and each angle of the triangle (total 3) is supposed to represent it's constitute nations (Bosniaks, Croats, and Serbs).

But yes it is a newly invented flag much like the Kosovo flag.

In B&H also jokingly known as the "Varta flag", as this battery brand is particularly common in B&H.

Do you understand any word?

Btw so many elements of Slavic mythology in this video.

Very interesting... Thanks for clarifications for us who know little.