nikakvu aboliciju neće dobit, ni političari ni vojska. ovo kači i staru gardu ratnih pobjednika iz devedesetih. brutalno poniženje za armene i nevjerojatan moral boost za azere.

Azerbaijani side handed over to the Armenian NKR officials a list of names of persons who should be extradited to Baku.

List includes:
-Former separatist leaders in Karabakh region who actively participated in separatism on the territory of Azerbaijan.
-Individuals who committed atrocities and warcrimes against the Azerbaijani civilian and military population during the First and Second Karabakh Wars.

U prijevodu svu mušku populaciju potrpati u logore, hvatat će i dede koji su sudjelovali u prvom ratu devedesetih.
Tu je za Armene najbolje da se kompletno evakuiraju.

I sad Kremlj optužuje Armeniju da su oni sami priznali GK kao dio Armenije, neviđena ***, s ovima trebaju prekinuti sve veze.

Rusi su im kupili 3 godine života. Za koji klinac?
Mogli su bar nekako da iskoriste ti, bar na vrijeme da se rasele, da ne bježe ovako.

Jesu jer su potpisali da će ih štiti dok traje mandat, da je taj mandat istekao mogao bi to tvrditi
Vidiš da se Kremlj izvlači na to da je Pašinjanin priznao GK kao dio Azerbajdžana na EU samitu i pa eto zbog toga nisu mogli sprovesti mandat.

Russia’s Medvedev Signals that Russia Will Not Support Armenia Against Azerbaijan Offensive

Medvedev posted:

One day, one of my colleagues from a fraternal country told me: “Well, I’m a stranger to you, you won’t accept me.” I answered what I had to: “We will judge not by biography, but by actions.” Then he lost the war, but strangely stayed in place. Then he decided to blame Russia for his mediocre defeat. Then he gave up part of the territory of his country. Then he decided to flirt with NATO, and his wife defiantly went to our enemies with cookies.

Guess what fate awaits him…

https://theatlasnews.co/conflict/2023/0 ... offensive/

Shahriar Heydari: Maintaining border with Armenia is Iran's red line

Shahriar Heydari, deputy head of the National Security and Foreign Policy Committee of the Iranian parliament, said in an interview with the Hayat analytical website that "maintaining the border with Armenia and respecting the territorial integrity of Armenia is Iran's red line. But unfortunately, Azerbaijan, with the collaboration of the Zionist regime [i.e. Israel], Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, seeks to change the geography of the region," reports ParsToday.

"The change in the geopolitics of the region is one of the red lines of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and we do not accept any change in our shared borders with the neighboring Republic of Armenia, which is a very good neighbor, and we have always had peaceful relations with this country since the distant past," Heydari said.

He noted that it is better that Azerbaijan does not take steps that will cause tension in the region.

"If necessary, Iran will also resort to military force to prevent such a thing. But our advice to Azerbaijan is that it is better to resolve its problems with Armenia diplomatically, and the Islamic Republic of Iran also has expressed its willingness in connection with acting as a mediator between Armenia and Azerbaijan," said the deputy head of the National Security and Foreign Policy Committee of the Iranian parliament.

https://news.am/eng/news/781573.html

Iranci se ne ljute zbog vojnih vježbi Armenaca i Amera, nego kažu da je napad na Armeniju crvena linija za Iran, vojno će intervenirati

Medvedev se sprda sa Pašinjanom, smeta mu koketiranje sa NATO




Iranci se ne ljute zbog vojnih vježbi Armenaca i Amera, nego kažu da je napad na Armeniju crvena linija za Iran, vojno će intervenirati

Medvedev se sprda sa Pašinjanom, smeta mu koketiranje sa NATO

Iran calls for a “Wake-Up Call” to Moscow in South Caucasus

The post-November 10, 2020 geopolitical reality in the South Caucasus and the shift of balance of power have created not just an unfavorable situation for Armenia, but for Iran as well, which felt isolated from the region. Despite Tehran’s pro-active engagement towards the region, Iranian experts and politicians felt their legitimate concerns were being unheard in Moscow.

Many even publicly criticized the Russian leadership for working against Iranian interests in the region by cooperating closely with Turkey. This article will highlight some of the Iranian concerns directed at Moscow regarding the recent developments in the South Caucasus.

On what issues have Russia and Iran diverged in the region?

Iranian expert on the South Caucasus Vali Kaleji, in his article “Russia and Iran Diverge in the South Caucasus,” argued that despite the similarities in Iran’s and Russia’s approaches towards the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the South Caucasus, after November 10, 2020, the countries have diverged when it comes to the “Zangezur Corridor,” its impact on the Armenian-Iranian border and Israel’s relations with Azerbaijan. Moreover, after the war in Ukraine, Russia distanced itself from the developments in the region leaving Armenia alone in resisting the Turkish-Azerbaijani-Israeli axis. This factor has created a security and strategic dilemma for Iran along its entire northwestern border.

According to Kaleji, Iran had reservations about the fifth paragraph of the trilateral statement, which called for the establishment of the peacekeeping forces but also for establishing a Russian-Turkish joint monitoring center in Aghdam. (Iran did not participate in this mission.) In fact, while Turkey was not mentioned in the agreement, both Ankara and Moscow signed an MoU to establish the joint Russian-Turkish center to monitor the ceasefire in Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh). Interestingly, Iran, which was directly impacted by this war, was left out of the agreement, and according to the Iranian expert, this showed “Russia’s preparedness to disregard Iranian interests” in the region.

Another issue is the establishment of the so-called “Zangezur Corridor” project, to which Baku wants to have an uninterrupted and extraterritorial connection between Azerbaijan proper and the Nakhichevan exclave. When Russia’s ambassador to Baku Mikhail Bocharnikov said that the project has all the bases for implementation and he doesn’t see any “unsolvable differences on this issue,” alarms went off in Iran. Although many Russian high-ranking officials disregarded the term “corridor” (Russia’s FM spokesperson used the term “route”), Iran and Armenia are still suspicious of Russia’s main objective in controlling these routes and giving them a certain status. Iran’s concerns arise from the fact that Azerbaijan wants to cut the Armenian-Iranian border and isolate Iran. President Aliyev has occasionally threatened that if Armenia doesn’t give Baku a “corridor,” then Azerbaijan will take the land by force.

Third, Russia’s passive view of Israel’s role in the region has also raised some concerns in Tehran. Kaleji argues that while Iran is extremely worried about Israeli military and intelligence involvement in the region, as well as the threat of Israeli drones targeting Iranian nuclear centers and assassinating scientists, Moscow has been looking the other way. Moreover, “Russia has adopted an approach to Israel’s presence in the South Caucasus that is similar to that in Syria, which is definitely not favorable to Tehran,” argues the Iranian expert.

Iranians are aware that Russia’s war with Ukraine has shifted Moscow’s attention from the South Caucasus, while at the same time improving Russia’s economic relations and increasing trade via Turkey and Azerbaijan (the latter within the context of the International North-South Transport Corridor). As a result of this political vacuum, the Israeli-Turkish-Azerbaijani axis is being consolidated in the region, making Iran “extremely worried about geopolitical changes, the balance of power and changing international borders in the region,” argues Kaleji. Furthermore, the involvement of Russia in Ukraine also weakened the idea of the “3+3” format which Iran was pushing as a regional cooperation example to exclude the West and stabilize the region.

Kaleji also mentions that over the past three years, Russia has ignored Iran’s geopolitical concerns in the region. When tensions between Baku and Tehran ran high in September and October of 2021, Iran sought to cooperate with Russia to calm the situation. However, surprisingly, in a meeting between Iran’s and Russia’s foreign ministers, Sergei Lavrov expressed Russia’s opposition to Tehran’s military exercises along the Azerbaijani border. According to Iranian experts, the Russians were concerned that Iran’s military exercises and its involvement in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict would further complicate the situation in the region.
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https://armenianweekly.com/2023/07/26/i ... -caucasus/

Ni uz najbolju volju u ovom citatu ne mogu pronaći riječ SAD, Amerika ili istoznačnicu.

Zar nema i Azarbajdzan neke 2-3 male enklave u sklopu Armenije

Naravno da nema nikakve veze s Rusima koji više ništa nemaju s južnim Kavkazom.
Za Ruse je Gorski Karabah kojeg su oni ugurali u Azerbajdžan danas Turska.

Glupi Armeni ako imaju išta u glavi čim se slegne prašina trebaju izaći iz CSTO i zatražiti ulazak u NATO, ako treba klečeći u Tbilisi da se pomire s Gruzima.

Svejedno Armenci nebi ucinili nista ni po isteku madata. Sta da su ih i stitili do kraja mandata?
Shvacam ja sve sta ti govoris ali na kraju opet ostaje cinjenica da se Armenija uopce nije bavila Armencima u Karabahu nego su jendostavno ostavili kako jest i glumili da ce se sve rjesit od sebe.
Armenija od kad postoji najkrivlja je sama sebi ajmo prvo od toga poci. Koliko god mi bili sentimentalni i empaticni