Da i zato ste glasali za stanku islamskog fanatika koji je nedavno pušten iz zatvora i koji je autor Islamske deklaracije jer ste bili za Jugoslaviju.
Ako se SDA nije zalagala za odvajanje tada, onda nije niti HDZ, to što u to vrijeme o tome nisu smjeli tako javno druga stvar.

Upravo taj plakat dokazuje namjeru odvajanja BiH, jer na plakatu nije zajednička država Jugoslavija nego BiH.

Rat je imao razne faze. Nisu zajednicke ofanzive iz 95. sve sto je od njega vidjeno. No, to stvarno ovde nije tema i opet idemo u offtopic jer je covjek nasao za shodno da se bavi mojom licnoscu, podsvijescu, ili cime vec.

Drugo, SDA se nije tokom izbora koji su btw. odrzani 1990. godine zalagala za raspad Jugoslavije. Pa to cak nije cinila ni HDZ tada. Nijedna od nacionalistickih hohstapler partija se nije furala na rat i raspade vec na vezivanje zastava protiv "zlih komunjara"



ZA OVO je narod/stoka glasao. A DOBIO JE KURCHINU U GRKLJAN, rat, bijedu, demografski sunovrat, socijalne i ekonomske razlike koje vece nisu bile ni za vrijeme fundamentalizma. Dobio je besperspektivnost i vjecni polozaj na "periferiji kapitalizma". Ali vama je dzaba objasnjavati da je nacionalizam KURCHINA i da nacionalizam sluzi iskljucivo kao instrument u rukama vladajucih klasa. Vi cete se i dalje ponasati kao zombi-zrtve i korisne budale.

Ja na plakatu vidim granice BiH bez granica Jugoslavije, čisti simbol separatizma.
Zašto vam onda smeta kada SNSD na izbornim plakatima crta granice Republike Srpske bez granica BiH?

U našoj BiH podebljano a u Jugoslaviji manjim fontom.
Istu foru smo koristili i mi na dokumentima, velikim slovima Hrvatska Republika Herceg Bosna onda ispod manjim Bosna i Hercegovina, to je valjda dokaz da smo se zalagali za BiH.

SDA je tada dobila 36% glasova u BiH a Muslimani činili 43% stanovništva.
Nije narod bio glup nego jednostavno svaka ptica svome jatu leti, uvijek bilo i bit će.

U našoj BiH podebljano a u Jugoslaviji manjim fontom.

Istu foru smo koristili i mi na dokumentima, velikim slovima Hrvatska Republika Herceg Bosna onda ispod manjim Bosna i Hercegovina, to je valjda dokaz da smo se zalagali za BiH.

SDA je tada dobila 36% glasova u BiH a Muslimani činili 43% stanovništva.
Nije narod bio glup nego jednostavno svaka ptica svome jatu leti, uvijek bilo i bit će.

Posto vidim da to vec nekoliko puta vrtis, o kakvom ti, Ante ti, agnosticizmu govoris? Je li ti dobro? Temperatura? Ako ti je do nokauta, vidis ja to umijem zaprave, pa bujrum, ali sportski, nista nasilje i to. Kakvo kurcevo "nokautiranje na forumima"...





Ja raspad Jugoslavije posmatram onakvim kakav je bio, naime rezultat penetracije vanjskog faktora i unutrasnjih nacionalizama, prije svega hrvatskog i srpskog, pa onda i svih ostalih.

SDA nije referendum sprovela (zajedno s Ha De Zet) prije raspada Jugoslavije vec nakon istog. To je ta bitna razlika. Ali, gledajuci iz danasnje perspektive (tadasnju nisam mogao ni imati jer sam bio dijete), bila je greska vezivanje zastava s Hrvatima koji su ga istoj toj Bosni za ciju su nezavisnost glasali onda shuknuli do bubrega.




A zasto bi se latentni islamista borio za Jugoslaviju? Kad sam ja to tvrdio? Bist du eigentlich noch ganz dicht, Wadenbeisser?




"Demokratski izbori" su bili putanja u rat. To samo stoka, ili kako neki vole reci "narod", nije skuzio. Pa tako ti u Hrvackoj vlada 200 obitelji, kaj ne. Dok bijeda sljaka po Irskoj.

To nema nikakve veze s onim sto sam ja napisao. Ja sam napisao da i ti prisezes na vjernost sustavu koji kao takav ne dovodis u pitanje.


Osim kada ga u pitanje dovede islamist Alija.

Prisjetimo se kratke rasprave na samo par forumskih stranica kad si pobjegao. Crno na bijelo, procitati dolje posljednji post na prvoj stranici (moj post) i otpratiti daljnju raspravu:


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Dakle, i ti si hodajuci dokaz da Jugoslavija nije imala nikakve sanse. Kako ocekivati da opstane drzava Jugoslavena kada i najveci Jugoslaven nakon Tita (Haram) prestaje biti Jugoslaven i postaje agnostik u trenutku kada Jugoslaviji vise od svega trebaju Jugoslaveni.

Jugoslavija zove, Jugoslavena nigdje.

Vidis li da gore stoji "u Jugoslaviji"? Izbori su bili republicki a ne drzavni. Jel me zajebavas ili kaj je posrijedi???





Jos jednom, republicki izbori nisu drzavni izbori. Ali se ipak naglasavalo da se zeli ostati u Jugoslaviji. Vidi pise: U JUGOSLAVIJI.





Pa sve zavisi o kakvoj vrsti dokumenta se radi i da li se radi o institucionalno priznatoj tvorevini. Ako je HRHB unutar institucionalnih okvira BiH priznata, onda je samo pitanje kad se sta vise a sta manje istice. I u Austriji kad su pokrajinski izbori, nigdje se ne spominje Austrija vec npr. samo "nas Tirol".


Vjeruj kad ti kazem, plakat je sluzio mazanju ociju narodu jer su nas koalicioni partneri i "razbijaci zlog komunizma" odveli direkt u rat.






Bosnjaci me obicno proklinju radi toga jer taj argument cesto koristi Nele Karajlic, ali narod je tad izabrao rat - nesvjesno - a imao je itekako izbora, naime reformkomuniste.

Dobrim dijelom je to i zbog toga sto je STRANI FAKTOR odlucio da nacionaliste prihvati kao sagovornike i moguce partnere. Da su oni, da ZAPAD, vise podrzali Markovica i reformkomuniste, Jugoslavija bi jos bila tu a rata nebi bilo.

The Great Betrayal

The left’s reaction to the massacre in Israel has many progressive Jews in the West rethinking their past activism, political affiliations, and friendships.

After Donald Trump was elected, Emily Rose, 51, flew to New York with her daughters to walk in the Women’s March. She demonstrated on the streets of Minneapolis, where she lives, in the days after George Floyd’s murder. She donated money to small, black-led movements and social justice organizations that she believed in. She unlearned and then re-educated herself, as white Americans were instructed to, and read the teachings of anti-racist scholars like Ta-Nehisi Coates.

But then, after the massacre in Israel on October 7, when some 1,400 Jews were brutally murdered, not to mention the rapes, beheadings, and instances of torture, Rose began to notice something odd from the cohort of fellow progressives she admired: they were cheering for the other side.

“I started to see these intelligent, educated people, whose mission is to make our system better for people of color, suddenly posting all this anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian stuff,” Rose said. “I’m not changing my values, but screw the allyship. I will not stop fighting, because I believe in the causes themselves. But as for going out of my way to support, to post, to give money? I’m done.”

While professional politicos, like DSA founder Maurice Isserman, are publicly stepping down from their parties and denouncing organizations that justify, or even cheer, the events of October 7, and wealthy Jewish donors claw back their millions from elite universities that they say helped foment antisemitism on their campuses, there’s a quieter, more personal reckoning happening among progressive Jews. Like Rose, they feel betrayed by a left that they thought would have their backs.

Dov, 30, a Canadian musician who didn’t want to share her last name for privacy reasons, is transgender and a self-proclaimed “political progressive.” Since October 7, she says, “Every time I open Instagram I’m just like, blocking or deleting people that I thought I knew.” She calls anti-Zionism “cloaked antisemitism.”

Josh Gilman, 37, who lives in Arizona and prides himself on having friends across the political spectrum, says he has been muting even close friends who espouse anti-Zionist views. “I don’t need the emotional distress,” he told The Free Press. “If there’s someone who is truly my friend, it makes me feel that they very much don’t understand who I am as a person.” He’s cut out people he had invited to dinner at his home, and who he had trusted around his family and children.

“There’s a line in the sand, which is Israel,” he said.

Nate Clark, 34, lives in Virginia. He’s marched for gay rights, and in 2020, for the removal of statues of Confederate soldiers in his home state. He said his choice to stand up for others is rooted in his Jewish identity.

“As a Jew, I feel like it would be weird if I went to Germany and took a right turn down Hitler Avenue or saw a statue of Eichmann, and then hear people claim ‘Oh, it’s our history. We’re just proud of our history,’ ” he told me.

Since October 7, he’s found himself “politically homeless.”

The Jewish progressives The Free Press spoke to said they no longer believe in a left that sees their own people’s plight. They feel torn: they don’t want to give up on the progressive causes they’ve marched for and believe in. But groups like Jews for Racial and Economic Justice and Jewish Voice for Peace don’t speak for them, and they don’t feel kinship with Israel’s allies on the right—like evangelical Christians and social conservatives.

“When you look at the political right you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel and very uncomfortable with Jews at home. And when you look at the political left, you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews at home and very uncomfortable with Jews in Israel,” Clark said.

Amelia Adams, 26, a writer and comedian in New York, told me she first noticed Jewish suffering being downplayed in May 2021, during the last bout of violence between Hamas and Israel. She called it “the start of the gaslighting.”

Now, she said, it’s at another level. “People who have a lot of friends in the gay community and the trans community are like, ‘Are you kidding me?’ It’s hit LGBT Jews really hard. It’s like, ‘Where do we go from here?’ ”

Jack Hazan, a therapist in New York, agrees. He’s been hosting virtual group therapy sessions for Jews in the wake of the massacre. “I have clients in tears over this; we spend the entire session talking about it,” he says. A theme that’s come up again and again is betrayal, by best friends who parrot lines like “Israelis are guilty of settler colonialism,” or committing genocide.

He says there’s an element of shock among the many other Jewish people he counsels.

“You’re mourning the loss of who you thought was this confidant and friend, but what makes it doubly sad is that you feel the world is turned on you.”

So why does he think the left has turned on its own people?

“It’s not based on values or beliefs,” he replies, adding that the left’s view on Israel is part of a set of ideological platforms they can’t break from.

“Therefore,” he says, adopting the thinking of the progressive left: “I have to stick to my guns even though, you know, it seems a little crazy that a ninety-year-old woman is being escorted out of a tunnel, but it must not be that bad and there are two sides to the story.”

He concludes: “It’s totally sick.”

Clark said that for older friends he doesn’t keep in touch with, the block button has come in handy. For closer friends, many of whom work in academia, he’s taken a more tactful approach.

“I’m trying to explain to them why this is so important, why Israel matters and why Jews need a homeland.”

But some aren’t open to hearing about Israel at all. Adams told me about talking to a friend’s boyfriend at a wedding when it came up that her cousin was in the IDF.

“I was talking to a white guy from New Jersey whose family probably came here on the Mayflower, and he turned to me like, ‘Why would you be proud of that?,’ like ‘Ew.’ ”

She was caught off guard.

“I responded like ‘She doesn’t, uh, well, do the bad things.’ It was humiliating. I stumbled over my words.”

Thinking back, she asked, “Why did I say that? We don’t need to apologize for our existence.” She called the phenomenon of white, liberal Americans looking down on her Zionism as “West-splaining,” a term borrowed from Einat Wilf.

Adams is a law student and a liberal. “I’m very pro-choice, I’m very for bodily autonomy. I spent the better part of 2020 concerned if I could get married to my girlfriend. I was terrified my rights would be taken away.”

I asked her if she still thinks of herself as a woman on the left.

“If you asked me that three weeks ago, I would’ve said yes.” But now, she says, “Honestly, I don’t know.”

Asked if she thinks that the past few weeks will affect how she casts her ballot in 2024, Adams replied, “I can't vote,” because she is an immigrant, but added, “I feel lucky that this is a decision that I don’t have to make.”

As for Rose, she says her party registration isn’t shifting quite yet, though her media habits are.

“My friends and I are like, ‘My God, we find ourselves watching clips on Fox News.’ ”

Ljevičari su depresivci, jer znaju da ne vrijede.

Inače je ta terminologija lijevo-desno pogrešna jer implicira dvije ravnopravne strane, kao da je stvar ukusa.

Umjesto desno-lijevo točna podjela bi bila gore-dole, ispravno-nakaradno, zdravo-bolesno i sl.

Definicija je blesava jer nije život skok u dalj gdje svi trče sa iste pozicije. Netko starta s jednog mjesta, netko sa drugog, netko ima vjetar u leđa a netko ima utege čim se rodi.
Osim toga, uspješni ljudi ne bi bili uspješni da nema luzera koji za njih rade za minimalnu plaću. Što bi bilo naprimjer s Amazonom da danas svi njegovi skladištari u svijetu daju otkaz?

Ljevičari su depresivci, jer znaju da ne vrijede.

Inače je ta terminologija lijevo-desno pogrešna jer implicira dvije ravnopravne strane, kao da je stvar ukusa.

Umjesto desno-lijevo točna podjela bi bila gore-dole, ispravno-nakaradno, zdravo-bolesno i sl.

Ti stvarno vjerujes u ovo sranje???

Da li ti se ja cinim kao "depresivac" ili neko ko je "prozet kompleksima"? Toga nema nit je kad bilo u Crnu Goru.

Sad si me stvarno nasmijao. Moj stari to propovjeda otkako znam da postoji. Bas taj citat.

Urednik trenutno najomraženije knjige u Hrvatskoj: Nakon nje nitko neće moći ostati skrštenih ruku



Nakladničkoj kući Salesiana uništeni su plakati, ostavljene loše recenzije na Google tražilici, a sve zato što su se usudili objaviti knjigu Što je žena? Matta Walsha i tako pokrenuti raspravu o rodnoj teoriji. Tim povodom razgovarali smo s urednikom knjige, Matijom Janešom.

Nakladnička kuća Salesiana već dugi niz godina objavljuje djela odgojne tematike za roditelje, djela za mlade i duhovna djela. Nedavno su objavili hrvatski prijevod knjige Što je žena? američkog političkog komentatora Matta Walsha.

Knjiga je nastala prema istoimenom dokumentarcu koji je ubrzo nakon objavljivanja postao prava filmska uspješnica – primjerice, na platformi Twitter dokumentarac je pogledalo 177 milijuna ljudi. Iako jednostavnog sadržaja – Matt Walsh putuje Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama i liječnicima, psiholozima, profesorima postavlja jednostavno pitanje što je žena – dokumentarac je naišao na burne reakcije.

Američka javnost lijeve političke orijentacije dokumentarac je prozvala transfobnim, a popularne društvene mreže čak su sa svojih platformi uklanjale isječke iz dokumentarca zbog navodnog govora mržnje.

Sličnu sudbinu doživjela je i nakladnička kuća Salesiana zbog objave prijevoda knjige nastale prema dokumentarcu. Neki od njihovih reklamnih plakata išarani su psovkama, a na recenzijama na Google tražilici ostavljene su im jedinice i loši komentari pa im je prosjek s 4,9 u dva dana pao na 2,8.

Tim povodom razgovarali smo s urednikom knjige, Matijom Janešom.

Definicija je blesava jer nije život skok u dalj gdje svi trče sa iste pozicije. Netko starta s jednog mjesta, netko sa drugog, netko ima vjetar u leđa a netko ima utege čim se rodi.
Osim toga, uspješni ljudi ne bi bili uspješni da nema luzera koji za njih rade za minimalnu plaću. Što bi bilo naprimjer s Amazonom da danas svi njegovi skladištari u svijetu daju otkaz?

Oslobodi se tog gubitničkog mentaliteta. Ne zbog mene ili nekog drugog, nego zbog sebe i za vlastito dobro.

Ako bi svi ti luzeri promijenili ponašanje, mi bi vjerojatno ne samo imali nešto puno bolje od Amazona, već vjerojatno odavno i kolonije u sunčevom sustavu i možda pokušavali međuzvjezdane letove.

Sad si me stvarno nasmijao. Moj stari to propovjeda otkako znam da postoji. Bas taj citat.

Uspjesni ljudi ne bi bili uspjesni da nisu uspjesni.





Okanite se ove komunisticke mrznje spram svega sto je lijepo, pametno, USPJESNO, BOGATO, odrzivo, zdravo, napredno, inteligentno itd.


Tako razmislja samo ogorceni pubertetski buntovnik bez razloga kojemu je za njegov prist na sred nosa kriv kapitalizam.

Uspjesni ljudi ne bi bili uspjesni da nisu uspjesni.





Okanite se ove komunisticke mrznje spram svega sto je lijepo, pametno, USPJESNO, BOGATO, odrzivo, zdravo, napredno, inteligentno itd.


Tako razmislja samo ogorceni pubertetski buntovnik bez razloga kojemu je za njegov prist na sred nosa kriv kapitalizam.