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Elon Musk Marks Race to Bottom With Alex Jones, Ramaswamy, Andrew Tate in Live Twitter Chat

Elon Musk has reinstated infamous conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and to mark the occasion, Musk gathered a panel for an X Spaces conversation on Sunday. The discussion included Jones, Andrew Tate — who faces charges of rape, human trafficking, and organized crime; controversial Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy; Trump’s disgraced former national security adviser Mike Flynn; and other problematic figures for an X Spaces conversation on Sunday.

The Tesla/X owner ran a poll on Friday (ending at midnight on Saturday), where users on X, formerly known as Twitter, voted to reinstate Jones, who had originally been banned in 2018. Jones had initially been suspended for a week in August of that year for incitements to violence, and the platform made the ban permanent the next month over a Periscope stream on the InfoWars account in which Jones ranted at CNN journalist Oliver Darcy for 10 minutes in a Capitol Hill hallway.

Hosted by Mario Nawful, the nearly three-hour session on Sunday found the men, unsurprisingly, crowing about some of their favorite topics. As The Wrap notes, Musk waxed on about his view that people should crank out a lot of babies (a stance he’s held for years, positing in 2021 that “civilization is going to crumble” if people don’t have more children; the mother of a set of his twins said in a biography written about him this year by Walter Isaacson: “He really wants smart people to have his kids”). Meanwhile, Jones was fixated on “globalists,” and the other people participating — including Rep. Matt Gaetz and far-right conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec — lobbed praise on Musk and the return of Jones to the platform.

Musk asked Jones to address his conspiracy theory concerning Sandy Hook, where Jones falsely claimed the shooting was staged and that the families of the victims were actors. Jones claimed he was “covering” the notion others had perpetuated. He also reiterated that he now believes the shooting happened.

Just over a year ago, Musk had originally held up the platform’s ban of Jones, indicating that he couldn’t forgive the InfoWars host’s defamatory falsehoods about the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting being a hoax or “false flag.” At the time, Musk tweeted that because his firstborn son died as an infant, he had “no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame.”

Musk has since changed course. He indicated that his reinstatement of Jones was to defend “freedom of speech,” despite him not agreeing with Jones on Sandy Hook. He also noted that Jones’ last suspension was over insulting a journalist following Jones’ false Sandy Hook claims. When Musk was pressed about whether Jones would be banned in the future for lying, Musk said X would “follow the law,” but the company was aiming to avoid longterm bans.

“We need to look at the circumstances there. … so if somebody says something that is unlawful, then we will take action if someone does not do something that is unlawful then we would aspire to not take action,” he said.

Musk’s recent decisions to reinstate extremists and conspiracy theorists while also endorsing antisemitic conspiracy theories may play well with his newly-minted, bluecheck-paying base, but it has not bolstered his standing amongst advertisers, who have abandoned X in droves. Last month, while speaking at The New York Times’ DealBook Summit, he accused those brands of trying to “blackmail” him and told them, “Go fuck yourselves.”

Vezivanje sa Jones i Tate je velika greška. Jones je zbog rejtinga držao performanse u kojima je terorizirao roditelje ubijene djece, i inispirirao luđake kojih u SAD ne fali.

A moje mišljenje o Tate imate na njegovoj temi. Grifter i pimp (sve u vlastitim riječima). I još prešao na Islam kao šlag na kraju.

Ništa ne čudi, Musk je super lik, ali vidi se da je i žestoki autist (nažalost često je genijalnost neodvojiva od autizma i ludovanja). Mogao bi puno efektivniji u dobrim stvarima da posjeduje malo veći EQ.

ne radi se tu o vezivanju uz ikoga, nego o principu slobode govora.

to što je nekome omogućena platforma da se izražava ne znači da se s njime slažeš ili da se s njime vežeš.

ako podržavaš slobodu govora to znači da je podržavaš i onima s kojima se ne slažeš. Musk po tom pitanju nastoji biti dosljedan.

Ti skoro uvijek diskutiraš sa Strawmanom. Dopusti da znam o čemu govorim jer pratim Twitter svaki dan.

I pri tome koristim preciznu terminologiju s razlogom. Kad kažem "vezivanje", to doista i mislim. Musk je puno vremena retweetao Tatea, branio ga, promovirao.

Jučer je sudjelovao na podcastu (Twitter spaces) sa Jonesom i Tateom.

Obadvojica su žešći grifteri a on autističar koji je vjerojatno željan validacije i da se osjeća pomalo kao odmetnik. Ovi predatori su to nanjušili, i vjerojatno ga iskorištavaju.

A samim time se i kompromitira i sve ono što je točno i što Musk zastupa. Jer ako si s luđacima i kriminalcima, puno lakše je oboriti i ono kad Musk zastupa činjenice. Velika i glupa greška. Ali u konačnici ne znači puno, tabori su sve podijeljeni. Ali je i glup, i naivan. Naravski, razumljivo s obzirom da je autist.

ni retvitanje nekoga nije nipošto dokaz istomišljenosti.

Tate i Jones su masu stvari rekli ispravno i ja bi ih mogao retvitati. Tate je masu rekao i krivo, a Jones često lupeta naprosto. Također, kazneni progon protiv Tatea je vjerojatno motiviran isključivo njgovim nastupima u javnosti, ne stvarnim djelima - makar nije isključeno da i takvih ima.

to trpanje ljudi u ladice je bezvezarija. i u ovom slučaju mislim da se uopće ne radi o autizmom, nego o Muskovoj svojevrsnoj osveti oglašivačima koji su napustili twiter, po principu, nećete me plaćat, sad ću dati prostora još gorima (iz njihove perspektive) nego dosad.

i ne misli mda se išta time kompromitira. Ko dosad nije shvatio neke stvari nikad neće. Realnost je da su ljudi u političkom smislu općenito autisti, svak vidi što hoće, čuje što hoće, ignorira što hoće. Argumenti i činjenice su zapravo nebitni. A samim time i to ko se s kime druži.

Ali jeste. S kim si, takav si. Priheftao mu se najgori talog.