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nek nas samo malo pomazi ždrijeb, pa da izbjegnemo Francuze i Šveđane i možemo ovo prebroditi i doći na svjetsko opet jaki kao ranije.


`Ta će Šveđani Nijemci im utrpali 9 komada u dve tekme :zubati

Iskreno, djeluju mi moćnije od Francuza igrački, no ovi pak imaju 13.og igrača Platinija :zubati

Rumunjska ili Island naša šansa. Možda čak bolje s Rumunjima igrat :D

Ako dobijemo Francue i izbacimo ih, iz totalne depresije uletit ćemo u totalnu euforiju :D


Portugal i Francuska neće sigurno igrat skupa, a i Švedska i Portugal teško. Nek smo Grke izbjegli a bome i Ukrajince :)


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Od svega najbolja vijest je odlazak Štimca i dolazak Kovača i taj ugovor na dulje od play-offa. Sve ostalo, otići ili ne otići na SP je manje bitno.


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Braca Kovac su kao igraci bili vrijedni, inteligentni i pravi borci na terenu.
Hrvatskoj repki u momentu fali borbenost i pobjednicki mentalitet, osobine koje su ovu repku krasile od kako postoji, plus nevjerovatan kvalitet u cijeloj sirini kadra.
Ne znam stvarno ko je kriv sto su ove osobine u posljednjih par godina izgubili.
Mozda su u prelomu, mijenjanje generacije, a mozda je malo i stvar manjka kvalitetnih igraca.


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Otkad je Niko itišao iz repreznetacije, nije to više bila ista repka. Neprikosnoveni vođa na terenu, kapetan, imao je gard i autoritet, njemački mentalitet, gdje samo pobjeda igra i ništa drugo nije važno.

Po meni je bio bolji kapetan i vođa ekipe i od legendarnog Zvone Bobana.

Vidjet ćemo, kako će se snaći kao izbornik.

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Je. Ali znao je živce vaditi često. Njegov crveni karton je stalno visio u zraku. Izgleda da je znao sucima šapnuti tu magičnu riječ da ga izbjegne.

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Ipak mislim da je i manjak kvaliteta.
Uporedite prijasnje i sadasnje reprezentativce.
Nema tu veze sto i danasnji reprezentativci Hrvatske djelimicno igraju i u velikim top klubovima, vec je pitanjue kako igraju.
Odgovor je, skroz prosjecno, osim dvojice, trojice koji su i danas dan top, a to je jednostavno neodvoljno.
Taj prosjecan kvalitet i nepobjednicki mentalitet se prenosi i u repku.
I pola ekipe su mimoze, posebno sredina, nagazis ih malo na pocetku utakmice i oni ostatak utakmice hude ko bolesna koka.
Hajd` nagazi prije jednog Bobana, Sukera itd. itd...
Sto ih vise fauliras on sve bolji.
E to je to, po mojoj nekoj.


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Zbilja?

To bi bilo lijepo kad bi bila istina.

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Pa istina je... idi na stranicu pa pogledaj ostale komentare ;) Narod nije zaboravio odakle je dosla podrska kroz kvalifikacije.


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Narod nije odakle je dosla podrska kroz kvalifikacije.


Ne kužim ovo.

Lijepo ako je tako.

Mi smo pod dojmom naših forumaša koji očito većinom pripadaju ekstremnom dijela Bošnjaka pa stičemo drugačiji dojam.

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Pa ne bih ja baš rekao zadnje vrijeme da je iko odBošnjaka protiv Hr repke.

Jebiga, kad tvoji nešto postignu onda si manje frustriran i ne blejiš sa zavišću u druge.

Vidjet ćemo kad sljedeći put razvijemo šahare hoće li to kome smetati...

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Navodno Hrvatsku očekuje po svim prilikama duel sa Rumunijom. Susret izmedju Portugala i Francuske jednostavno je ( ne )isplativ za FIF-u, pošto se obje reprezentacije moraju plasirati. Ibrahimovića bi takodje svi voljeli gledati u Brazilu, pa i Svedska ide, a izmedju HR i Rumunije pretpostavljam da će Hrvatska upasti igrom i znanjem.
Nisu nikad vatreni do sad izgubili u barazu.

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Čuj Ibrahimovića žele tamo. To FTV kaže ?

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Čovjek je višemilionska investicija. Što je sporno?

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Sporno je što ti pojma nemaš tko što želi.

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Eto neka si ti stručnjak i ekspert od politike, ekonomije pa do sporta. Nema teme gdje ne briljiraš. Trebali su te postaviti za izbornika/ selektora, zajebao si Niku.

Kenjao si po Biliću danima, kad bio izbornik, sad se ne čuješ za Štimca.

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Portugal vs. Francuksa ne isplatljiv... Ibrahimovica zele gledat...
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Jel tebi jasno da ce se parovi izvlacit a ne napamet odredivat ?


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Portugal vs. Francuksa ne isplatljiv... Ibrahimovica zele gledat...
?????????????????????????
Jel tebi jasno da ce se parovi izvlacit a ne napamet odredivat ?


Izvlačenja za baraž su često puna kontroverzi, rijetko izvise komercijalno isplative ekipe. Dakle, ako si cinik, jedine moguće kombinacije su:

Portugal:Island
Grčka:Švedska
Hrvatska:Rumunjska
Ukrajina:Francuska

Protiv Francuske, a vjerojatno i Švedske nemamo što tražiti.

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Teorija urote.:D

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Pitanje na ispitu 2005, Kriptologija, University of Virginia:

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4W (30). Germany 1, USA 0

After the 1994 World Cup draw placed the host USA in a very difficult group, the USA coach, Bora Milutinovic, is reputed to have complained that the US organizing committee was so incompetent they couldn't even rig the draw properly. For purposes of this question, assume the DFB (German soccer federation) which is hosting the 2006 World Cup does not suffer from such incompetence.

The draw assigns each qualified team to a group (one of eight, A-H) and position (1-4). For example, in the 2002 draw the USA was assigned D3. The host country is placed into position A1.

The protocol for the draw for the 2006 World Cup finals has not been announced yet, but assume it will follow a protocol similar to this one which was used in 2002:

Before the draw event:

The name of each finalist (except the host country which is placed in position A1) is printed on a slip of paper which is placed in a white, spherical ball. The ball is made of two hemispheres that connect to each other, and can be separated to insert or remove the paper. The balls are placed into different bowls based on a partitioning determined by FIFA.

The letter name to identify each group (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H) is printed on a slip of paper and placed in a red, spherical ball. All the red balls are placed in a bowl.

The position number (1, 2, 3, 4) is printed on a slip of paper and placed in a blue, spherical ball. There are eight bowls of the four numbers, one corresponding to each group A-H. (In the bowl for A, only three balls with numbers 2, 3 and 4 are used, since the host country was preassigned to position A1).

At the draw event:

A well-known celebrity picks a white ball from one of the country bowls and hands it to Sepp Blatter, the President of FIFA.
Blatter unscrews the ball, extracts the slip of paper, reads the country name, and holds it up so everyone can see. After reading the slip, it is placed in a trash bin that is not examined after the draw.

A different well-known celebrity picks a red ball from the group bowl and hand it to Blatter.

Blatter unscrews the ball, extracts the slip of paper, reads the group name, and holds it up so everyone can see.

A different well-known celebrity picks a blue ball from the positions bowl corresponding to the selected group and hand it to Blatter.

Blatter unscrews the ball, extracts the slip of paper, reads the position number, and holds it up so everyone can see.

Note that at the end of the draw, all balls have been opened. It is a check on the protocol that all positions, groups and countries have been seen by the end. The actual slips of paper are destroyed (without examination) after the draw.

You should assume both the DFB who is hosting the draw, and Sepp Blatter, are both highly motivated to rig the results to ensure an easy path to the second round for the host country. Well-known celebrities are used to pick the balls to ensure a low likelihood that a selector can be corrupted. The pre-draw steps are done in secret by the DFB. The draw event itself is witnessed by thousands of people live and in person and approximately a billion people live on TV around the world (it is the world's most watched televised event that is not a soccer game).

Analyze the security of the World Cup draw procedure as described above. Either describe tactics the DFB could use to improve the likelihood that Germany get a favorable draw, or argue that the procedure is secure and there is no reasonable way of effecting the result. If you identify security weaknesses in the draw protocol, suggest modifications that would make it more secure.

For inspiration, you may want to read Bruce Schneier's Hacking the Papal Election analysis of the Papal election procedure.

(Note: this question should in no way be interpreted as questioning the integrity of FIFA or the DFB, especially if they are using RFID tags to track my tickets' whereabouts.)

5. (Optional, no credit) The goal of this course is to teach students to understand how and why cryptography works and how to use it to construct secure systems. The goal of this exam is to measure how well you have done that so I can fairly determine your final grade. If you feel your answers on this exam will not adequately demonstrate what you have learned, or that I should take other things into account in determining your final grade, explain why.

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World Cup Draw Incites Conspiracy Theorists

It is anyone’s guess how the 32 teams in the 2010 World Cup will be grouped by the draw Friday in South Africa, but one thing is for sure: the event will elicit sightings of things as far-fetched as U.F.O.’s and the Virgin Mary’s image on a potato chip.

Soccer luminaries, with the help of the honorary hostess Charlize Theron, will pull plastic balls out of pots to determine the eight first-round groupings of four teams each. Someone will inevitably claim that the draw was rigged. No proof? No problem. Not since “Forrest Gump” have table tennis balls supposedly been so vulnerable to manipulation and sleight of hand.

Television networks around the world will be on alert. They will replay the video forward and backward, in regular speed and slow motion, seeking evidence of plots and schemes, as if this were a sporting equivalent of the Zapruder film.

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At the draw for the 1990 World Cup in Italy, Sophia Loren picked a ball that placed the United States in the host team’s group. Considering that the Americans had not played in the World Cup in 40 years, this struck some as akin to putting the Yankees in the same group as the winner of the Little League World Series.

None other than the soccer legend Diego Maradona claimed the draw was rigged to favor the host Italians over defending champion Argentina. Those who saw conspiracy speculated that Loren had magnetized her rings to pick a certain magnetic ball out of the pot.

At the draw for the 2006 World Cup in Germany, the television network Sky Italia thought it saw duplicity in the way the former German soccer star Lothar Matthäus selected Italy’s group. The station claimed that the balls had been heated and cooled so that Matthäus knew which teams he was selecting as he placed Italy in a daunting group with the United States, the Czech Republic and Ghana.

“The Italians are mad if they think that,” Matthäus said at the time. “That is utter nonsense.”

Considering that Italy won the World Cup that year, Matthäus had a point.

Of course, soccer’s world governing body, known by its acronym FIFA, steadfastly denies that high jinks are involved. Outside experts say there is no proof that the process is illusory.

“We are not David Copperfield, and Siegfried and Roy,” Guido Tognoni, a former spokesman for FIFA, said in Las Vegas at the draw for the 1994 World Cup.

Yet conspiracy theories abound. In 2005, the issue was part of a final exam in a cryptology course at the University of Virginia.

Part of the suspicion comes because soccer is a global sport that evokes national passions, said Mike Woitalla, the executive editor of Soccer America magazine.

Americans do not usually root as a nation in a sporting sense, cheering instead for our alma maters and local professional sports teams. The Olympics are an exception, and the Super Bowl draws more interest in the commercials than the game. But much of the rest of the world reaches a fever pitch over soccer.

“In America, you might have fans from Boston thinking they were robbed by a bad call, but in soccer it’s an entire country feeling that somebody treated them unfairly,” Woitalla said. “It’s a fan’s feelings multiplied by millions.”

Conspiracy theories regarding soccer are likely to flourish readily in countries where authorities and elites have often failed the public, said Andrei Markovits, a professor of politics and German studies at the University of Michigan.

“I wouldn’t be surprised to see a much greater notion of conspiracy in countries like Argentina, Italy and Greece and much less in places like Sweden, Norway, Britain and Germany,” said Markovits, author of the forthcoming book, “Gaming the World: How Sports are Reshaping Global Politics and Culture.”

FIFA also has opened itself to charges of deception by arbitrarily changing the rules of the draw from one World Cup to the next. One time, performances in the two most recent World Cups are given priority in seeding teams. Another time, it is the three most recent World Cups that count. International rankings wax and wane in importance. Next time, who knows, the standard might be appearances on “Dancing with the Stars.”

And it does not help matters that Friday’s draw comes amid a sprawling match-fixing scandal involving club teams in Europe and soccer officials.

“I hate conspiracy theories,” Markovits said. “They’re an easy way out for people seeking explanations for complex things. That said, I don’t think the draw is rigged, but I’m less likely to completely dismiss it as a crackpot simplification than I would have been three weeks ago.”

In truth, the World Cup draw is not as entirely random as the weekly Powerball lottery. FIFA seeks geographic diversity in each of the eight four-team groups. And it gives the host nation a top seed, believing that local interest is boosted if the host team stays alive. No home team has failed to advance beyond the first round.

For the 2010 World Cup, the host, South Africa, will have a top seed even though it is ranked 86th in the world. Thus it will avoid such powers as Brazil, Germany and Argentina in group play.

“I never thought any of the draws were rigged,” said Bruce Arena, who coached the United States in the 2002 and 2006 World Cups. “The only thing that seems odd to me is how the host country gets decent draws. They never end up in the Group of Death.”

Well, almost never. Arena also coached the United States at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Upon realizing that the opening match was against Argentina, he lamented about American naïveté, saying, “We’re too stupid to fix a draw.”

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Conspiracy theories regarding soccer are likely to flourish readily in countries where authorities and elites have often failed the public, said Andrei Markovits, a professor of politics and German studies at the University of Michigan.




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Ja sam valjda ovdje nositelj borbe protiv teoretičara zavjere, no teško je ignorirati činjenicu da žrijeb više mazi isplative ekipe nego što bi to trebao, čisto statistički gledajući. Naravno, ako danas izvuku Portugal:Francuska ili Portugal:Švedska, mogli bi pomalo razuvjeriti i nevjerne tome.

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