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Obama, Modi pledge renewed U.S.-India partnership
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WASHINGTON — President Obama and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi pledged "a renewed partnership" Tuesday in a relationship that seems to have drifted in recent years.

"We have so much in common," Obama told reporters after meetings that touched on the economy, trade, education, and job training to help young people compete in "the global marketplace."

Obama said he and the Indian leader also discussed efforts to roll back the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, forge Middle East peace, wind down the war in Afghanistan, and stop the spread of Ebola in West Africa.

Modi, elected prime minister earlier this year, said India and the United States "have the foundation of a strong partnership," and "we now have to revive the momentum and ensure that we get the best out of it for our people and the world."

After their Oval Office meeting, the president and prime minister made their way to the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial in Washington. King's movement to end segregation and racial discrimination in the United State was inspired in part by Mahatma Gandhi's nonviolent campaign of freedom for India from the British Empire.

The agenda between the U.S. and India — the world's oldest and largest democracies — also includes trade policy, counter-terrorism, energy development, health policy, and space exploration.

Many officials also see India as a pro-American counterweight to the military and economic rise of China.

"It's a long-term project, but a very important one," said Nicholas Burns, a professor of international relations at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. As a high-ranking State Department official during the George W. Bush presidency, Burns was the lead negotiator of the U.S.-India Civil Nuclear Agreement.

The U.S.-India relationship has "kind of slowed down" in recent years, Burns said, in part because the Obama administration has been dealing with crises that include Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Russia.

India, meanwhile, has undergone a political transition that led to the election of Modi, a controversial figure in some quarters.

The U.S. has denied Modi a visa over protests regarding his alleged role in 2002 riots in the Indian state of Gujarat. Modi, the top official in Gujarat at the time, denied wrongdoing.

The Obama-Modi summit "was kind of a break-the-ice meeting," Burns said.

In an op-ed for The Washington Post, Obama and Modi said that "our relationship involves more bilateral collaboration than ever before," but "the true potential of our relationship has yet to be fully realized."

They said their goal is "to find mutually rewarding ways to expand our collaboration in trade, investment and technology that harmonize with India's ambitious development agenda, while sustaining the United States as the global engine of growth."

Obama hosted Modi at a private White House dinner on Monday. Modi, who is in the midst of a religious fast, had warm water, according to the Indian government.

Congressional Republicans also back stronger relations with India.

In an op-ed for The Hill, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, described the U.S. and India as natural allies, "whether it is managing the rise of China, combating terrorism, stabilizing Afghanistan or protecting the free movement of people and cargo on the high seas."

After the Oval Office meeting, Obama said Modi is addressing "the needs of the poorest of the poor in India, and revitalizing the economy there." He also praised the Indian leader for "his determination to make sure that India is serving as a major power that could help bring about peace and security for the entire world."

Modi, who has been in the United States for four days, said he has seen "extraordinary interest" in the India-U.S. partnership.

He added, "we will draw strength and inspiration from it as we start a more purposeful course in our ongoing journey."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /16471555/

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After their Oval Office meeting, the president and prime minister made their way to the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial in Washington. King's movement to end segregation and racial discrimination in the United State was inspired in part by Mahatma Gandhi's nonviolent campaign of freedom for India from the British Empire.

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As nations committed to democracy, liberty, diversity and enterprise, India and the United States are bound by common values and mutual interests. We have each shaped the positive trajectory of human history, and through our joint efforts, our natural and unique partnership can help shape international security and peace for years to come.

Ties between the United States and India are rooted in the shared desire of our citizens for justice and equality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html

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The U.S. has denied Modi a visa over protests regarding his alleged role in 2002 riots in the Indian state of Gujarat.

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Modi is a Hindu Nationalist and a member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). He is a controversial figure both within India as well as internationally as his administration has been criticised for failing to act to prevent the 2002 Gujarat riots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Modi

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Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) (lit. 'National Volunteer Organization' or National Patriotic Organization) is a charitable, educational, right-wing, volunteer Hindu nationalist group. RSS states that its ideology is based on the principle of selfless service to the nation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtriya_ ... evak_Sangh

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The 2002 Gujarat riots, also known as 2002 Gujarat violence and the Gujarat pogrom, was a three-day period of inter-communal violence in the western Indian state of Gujarat. Following the initial incident there were further outbreaks of violence in Ahmedabad for three weeks; statewide, there were further outbreaks of mass killings against the minority Muslim population for three months.

According to official figures, the riots resulted in the deaths of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus; 2,500 people were injured non-fatally, and 223 more were reported missing. Other sources estimate that up to 2,000 Muslims died. There were instances of rape, children being burned alive, and widespread looting and destruction of property. Chief Minister Narendra Modi has been accused of initiating and condoning the violence, as have police and government officials who allegedly directed the rioters and gave lists of Muslim-owned properties to them.

While officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 have been described as a pogrom by many scholars. Other independent observers have stated that these events had met the "legal definition of genocide", and called it an instance of state terrorism. Still others have said the incidents were tantamount to ethnic cleansing. Instances of mass violence which occurred include the Naroda Patiya massacre that took place directly alongside a police training camp, the Gulbarg Society massacre where Ehsan Jafri, a former parliamentarian, was among those killed, and several incidents in Vadodara city. Martha Nussbaum has said, "There is by now a broad consensus that the Gujarat violence was a form of ethnic cleansing, that in many ways it was premeditated, and that it was carried out with the complicity of the state government and officers of the law."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_riots

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Narendra Modi and the new face of India
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With the rise of Hindu nationalist Narendra Modi culminating in this week's election, Pankaj Mishra asks if the world's largest democracy is entering its most sinister period since independence

In A Suitable Boy, Vikram Seth writes with affection of a placid India's first general election in 1951, and the egalitarian spirit it momentarily bestowed on an electorate deeply riven by class and caste: "the great washed and unwashed public, sceptical and gullible", but all "endowed with universal adult suffrage". India's 16th general election this month, held against a background of economic jolts and titanic corruption scandals, and tainted by the nastiest campaign yet, announces a new turbulent phase for the country – arguably, the most sinister since its independence from British rule in 1947. Back then, it would have been inconceivable that a figure such as Narendra Modi, the Hindu nationalist chief minister of Gujarat accused, along with his closest aides, of complicity in crimes ranging from an anti-Muslim pogrom in his state in 2002 to extrajudicial killings, and barred from entering the US, may occupy India's highest political office.

Modi is a lifelong member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), a paramilitary Hindu nationalist organisation inspired by the fascist movements of Europe, whose founder's belief that Nazi Germany had manifested "race pride at its highest" by purging the Jews is by no means unexceptional among the votaries of Hindutva, or "Hinduness". In 1948, a former member of the RSS murdered Gandhi for being too soft on Muslims. The outfit, traditionally dominated by upper-caste Hindus, has led many vicious assaults on minorities. A notorious executioner of dozens of Muslims in Gujarat in 2002 crowed that he had slashed open with his sword the womb of a heavily pregnant woman and extracted her foetus. Modi himself described the relief camps housing tens of thousands of displaced Muslims as "child-breeding centres".

Such rhetoric has helped Modi sweep one election after another in Gujarat. A senior American diplomat described him, in cables disclosed by WikiLeaks, as an "insular, distrustful person" who "reigns by fear and intimidation"; his neo-Hindu devotees on Facebook and Twitter continue to render the air mephitic with hate and malice, populating the paranoid world of both have-nots and haves with fresh enemies – "terrorists", "jihadis", "Pakistani agents", "pseudo-secularists", "sickulars", "socialists" and "commies". Modi's own electoral strategy as prime ministerial candidate, however, has been more polished, despite his appeals, both dog-whistled and overt, to Hindu solidarity against menacing aliens and outsiders, such as the Italian-born leader of the Congress party, Sonia Gandhi, Bangladeshi "infiltrators" and those who eat the holy cow.

Modi exhorts his largely young supporters – more than two-thirds of India's population is under the age of 35 – to join a revolution that will destroy the corrupt old political order and uproot its moral and ideological foundations while buttressing the essential framework, the market economy, of a glorious New India. In an apparently ungovernable country, where many revere the author of Mein Kampf for his tremendous will to power and organisation, he has shrewdly deployed the idioms of management, national security and civilisational glory.

Boasting of his 56-inch chest, Modi has replaced Mahatma Gandhi, the icon of non-violence, with Vivekananda, the 19th-century Hindu revivalist who was obsessed with making Indians a "manly" nation. Vivekananda's garlanded statue or portrait is as ubiquitous in Modi's public appearances as his dandyish pastel waistcoats. But Modi is never less convincing than when he presents himself as a humble tea-vendor, the son-of-the-soil challenger to the Congress's haughty dynasts. His record as chief minister is predominantly distinguished by the transfer – through privatisation or outright gifts – of national resources to the country's biggest corporations. His closest allies – India's biggest businessmen – have accordingly enlisted their mainstream media outlets into the cult of Modi as decisive administrator; dissenting journalists have been removed or silenced.

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http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/m ... kaj-mishra

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Ljevičari iz Guardiana izgubljeni u modernom svijetu.

Nakon što je slični osvrt zaradio ruski predsjednik kao ruski nacionalist, kineski predsjednik kao kineski nacionalist, izraelski premijer kao židovski nacionalist, mađarski premijer kao mađarski nacionalist, japanski premijer kao japanski nacionalist, pardon kao:

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Abe is widely viewed as a right-wing nationalist. The British journalist Rupert Wingfield-Hayes of BBC described him as "far more right wing than most of his predecessors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinz%C5%8D_Abe

I bio optužen u Guardianu za:

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Abe is also charged with arrogance, chauvinism and historical revisionism, by minimising or ignoring wartime legacies such as the controversy over Korean "comfort women" who were forced into prostitution by Japanese troops during the second world war.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/n ... shinzo-abe

Na red je došao i indijski premijer, pod optužbom da je hinduistički nacionalist.

Drugovi nikako da se snađu u sadašnjem vremenu, zaostali u vremenu sa stavovima koji ne odgovaraju trenutku.

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A vjetrovi promjene pušu na planeti...

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Pa ti vidi.

Robbie MO

Red light distrikt u Bombaju:

Sliku odabrala Wikipedija (nije izmisljena).

Nisam znao da je u Indiji prostitucija legalna, a jos veci sok je za Kazahstan (muslimanska zemlja).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_India

boksnamnik

Ma Balkan je mizerija za Induse :zubati

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Rešen najčudniji granični spor na svetu

Odmah posle ponoći, u subotu, konačno je rešen jedan od najzamršenijih graničnih sporova na svetu. Indija i Bangladeš počeli su razmenu više od 160 enklava, malih suverenih područja sa svih strana opkoljenih drugom državom, čime je okončan spor dug gotovo 70 godina.

Ovaj čin promeniće živote više od 50.000 ljudi u enklavama Kuč Behara, koji su bili okruženi zemljom čije državljanstvo decenijama nisu mogli da dobiju. Sada će konačno dobiti pristup školama, struji i zdravstvenoj zaštiti.

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Za zagrižene kartografe i ljude opsednute geopolitičkim čudesima, to je kraj jedne ere. Razmena između Indije i Bangladeša znači da će svet ne samo izgubiti jedinstvenu granicu već će nestati i jedina enklava trećeg reda – enklava okružena enklavom, koja je, opet, okružena enklavom, koju okružuje druga država.

Deluje zbunjujuće. Dahala Kagrabari, enklava trećeg reda o kojoj je reč, bila je deo Indije, opkoljena bangladeškom enklavom oko koje se nalazi indijska enklava. Sve to je unutar Bangladeša. Ako ste i dalje zbunjeni, možda će vam pomoći ova mapa.

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Robbie MO

2.3% stanovnistva Indije su krscani.

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Postoje cak citave indijske savezne drzave s vecinskom krscanskom populacijom. Preciznije tri; Nagaland, Mizoram i Meghalaya, sve tri s preko 75% krscana.

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Karta prikazuje u kojim je indijskim saveznim državama dopušteno, a u kojima zabranjeno klanje krava
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Preciznija karta koja razlikuje klanje krava, bikova i bivola te uvjete pod kojima dopušteno narušiti zabrane
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Vjerska karta Kašmira na temelju popisa 1981.
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Jezična karta Kašmira na temelju popisa 1981.
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OSRH u Kašmiru, u sastavu UNMOGIP-a
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Razvoj gradske mreže u Indiji 1872.-2001.
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Stopa pismenosti na popisu 2011.

Postotak kućanstava s WC-om na popisu 2011.
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Postotak muslimana na popisu 2001.
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Robbie MO

Indija je prije Kine stavila satelit u orbitu oko Mjeseca. (Chandrayaan-1)

S vlastitom lansiranom raketom.

Ibar

Za koju godinu, Indija postaje najmnogoljudnija zemlja svijeta. S pravom traže reformu UN-a , tj. Vijeća sigurnosti istog.

Robbie MO

-Indija samostalno salje 3 astronauta u svemir.
-Nuklearna sila.
-Uskoro najmnogoljudnija zemlja svijeta
-Slicno kao i Kina, imaju rast od oko 6-7% godisnje, mada s daleko nize razine.

Trenutni sastav Vijeca Sigurnosti UN, star skoro 100 godina, ce biti dodatno obesmisljen kada Indija postane najmnogoljudnija zemlja na svijetu.

Robbie MO

U trenutku otvaranja ovog foruma GDP per capita Indije je bio 1090 $, danas je preko 2000$.

Za usporedbu, zemlje zapadnog Balkana su u istom periodu stagnirale, i BiH i Srbija na oko 5000$.

Kina je na 8 800 $, daleko iznad Srbije i BiH. Ovim tempom za 15 godina pretjece Hrvatsku. Bugarska je prva clanica EU koju je Kina prestigla, a padati ce jedna za drugom nova EU clanica svakih par godina.

zaba1111 · **Pridružen/a:** 07 svi 2009, 14:41 **Postovi:** 6207

Postoji sve vise glasova koji kazu da je kineski ekonomski balon pred pucanjem.

Robbie MO

Kina planski smanjuje rast.

Ceha · **Pridružen/a:** 08 svi 2009, 13:12 **Postovi:** 24058

Robbie MO je napisao/la:

2.3% stanovnistva Indije su krscani.
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Postoje cak citave indijske savezne drzave s vecinskom krscanskom populacijom. Preciznije tri; Nagaland, Mizoram i Meghalaya, sve tri s preko 75% krscana.

Ova karta ne valja, previše muslimana, pogledaj;

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Postotak muslimana na popisu 2001.
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Indijci prijete da će Pakistanu srezati dotok vode zbog nedavnog terorističkog napada. Nije mi jasno u kolikom omjeru, sve usmjeriti kroz Indiju ili samo dio.

Na prvi pogled čak i sve izgleda kao astornomski skupo. Ali u biti nije. Samo na jednom vrlo posebnom i specifičnom mjestu miniranjem zablokiraš rijeku i možeš je usmjeriti na skroz drugu stranu. Problem su indijska sela na putu. (Onako teoretski, sve dok se radi o čistoj odmazdi, osveti. Za sve drugo su ti projekti preskupi i traju dugo vremena da se sve izgradi.)

Iako ne volim Pakistance Indijci se sa ovim ne bi trebali zajebavati. Priroda je van politike.

https://www.clearias.com/indus-water-treaty/

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U Kashmir se već godinama jako ozbiljno kuha. Tu će ponovo puni rat izbiti. U statistici još jedna muslimanska enklava koja ratuje protiv domaćina kafira.

Anti-Zlobnjak · **Pridružen/a:** 23 sij 2019, 16:02 **Postovi:** 909

Indija bombardovala Pakistan

Dvanaest indijskih aviona bombardovalo je teroriste u dijelu Kašmira koji je pod pakistanskom kontrolom.

U napadu je u potpunosti uništen kamp za obuku terorističke organizacije Džaiš el Muhamed. Pakistan je kao odgovor podigao vojne avione.

Kako pišu tamošnji mediji, ta akcija može se tumačiti kao odmazda za nedavni teroristički napad kada se bombaš-samoubica detonirao u državi Džamu i Kašmir i tom prilikom usmrtio 45 indijskih vojnika.

Agencija ANI javila je da je vazdušni napad izveden oko 3 sata i 30 minuta ujutru po lokalnom vremenu i u njemu je učestvovalo 12 višenamjenski aviona “Miraž 2000”. Takođe se navodi da su avioni na kamp bacili nekoliko bombi, od kojih je svaka teška po jednu tonu.

Ranije je portparol pakistanskih oružanih snaga, general-major Asif Gafur saopštio da su avioni indijskog vazduhoplovstva prekršili “liniju kontrole” u Kašmiru, ali su se “nakon odgovora iz Pakistana” vratili. Kako navodi RT, Pakistan je nakon napada iz Indije podigao svoju borbenu avijaciju.

Vlasti Pakistana su navele da su indijski avioni tom prilikom izbacili municiju. General Gafur je na svom nalogu na Tnjitteru objavio i fotografije izbačene municije.

Ministarstvo odbrane Indije za sada nije davalo nikakve zvanične izjave o incidentu.

U državi Džamu i Kašmir aktivni su separatisti koji se zalažu za nezavisnost ili priključenje Pakistanu.

U oblasti Kašmiru nema zvanične granice između Indije i Pakistana - vojske dviju država dijeli linija kontrole. Nju Delhi okrivljuje pakistanske vlasti za podršku naoružanim separatistima, a Islamabad poriče te optužbe, navodeći da se narod Kašmira samostalno bori za svoja prava.

http://www.glassrpske.com/novosti/svije ... 79438.html

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Pokazali navodno mjesto pada jedne teške bombe. Gdje je ostalih 13 mjesta, ili 11. Toliko su ih avioni istresli.

Robbie MO

Malo je poznato da je Indija poslala prije 5 godina sondu na Mars (ne na Marsovu povrsinu, nego umjetni satelit oko Marsa).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_Mission

Prva je zemlja kojoj je to uspjelo iz prve, i to za rekordno niskih 74 milijuna $. Bez pomoci tudjih raketa. (ne racunam kao uspjeh kada napravis sondu pa ti ju netko drugi lansira)

2021 salju drugu sondu na Mars.

2023 salju sondu Shukrayaan-1 na Veneru.

Planiraju i slati na Jupiter.

Kina jos nije dosla do Marsa, ali ce poslati rover 2020. koji stize 2021.

2019. privatni americki lander spusta se na Mjesec, istrazivat ce rude i materijale od ekonomske vaznosti (na Mjesecu ima milijun puta vise Helija-3 nego na Zemlji, smatra se da ce He-3 mozda biti bitan za fuzijske elektrane na Zemlji).
https://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Prep ... ar_surface

2025. ruski brod Federacija, s posadom, u orbiti oko Mjeseca
2026. rusko spustanje na Veneru (opet nakon pola stoljeca)
2031. rusko spustanje landera na Merkur (prvo u svijetu)
2031.-2035. pet ruskih ljudskih posada na Mjesecu

2037. Amerikanci na Marsu
2040.-2060. Kinezi i Rusi na Marsu

buenos aires · **Pridružen/a:** 05 kol 2018, 20:37 **Postovi:** 5385

‘No place for barbarism in our region’ – India’s Modi on church attacks in neighboring Sri Lanka

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has condemned the series of deadly explosions that rocked several Sri Lankan Catholic churches and five-star hotels on Sunday. The attacks claimed more than 150 lives.

Dalje: https://www.rt.com/news/457139-modi-comments-sri-lanks/

Netko želi sukobe.

U Sjevernoj Karolini također zapaljena crkva, u New Yorku katedrala Sv. Patricka u posljednjem trenutku spašena... U Francuskoj Djevici Mariji odrubljena glava... I ovo je u posljednjih par dana samo.

NC Fire: https://twitter.com/CFPalerts/status/1119647742048055301
NY: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/18/us/st-patricks-cathedral-man-arrested-gas-lighters/index.html
FR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD-urfj4yLk

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