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Tko će pobijediti u američkim predsjedničkim izborima?
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Tema za vijesti i rasprave vezane za temu predsjedničkih izbora u SAD-u 2016.


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Kao što sam rekao na drugo topicu, na anketama za republikanskog kandidata vodi Donald Trump.
Tuta kaže na drugom topicu kaže da to nije loše.
Trump je nedavno uvrijedio hispanoamerikance. To bi moglo GOPu a naravno i njemu smanjiti popularnost. To bi GOP moglo koštati većine u Kongresu koja je i bez Trumpa na labavim nogama.


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Neka druga anketa, od 17. srpnja 2015.


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Lijevo-desna orijentacija republikanaca.


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Jel imaš tako nešto za Demokrate?
Zanima me koliko je tzv.Blue Dog Democrats odnosno konzervativnih Demokrata.


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Jel imaš tako nešto za Demokrate?
Zanima me koliko je tzv.Blue Dog Democrats odnosno konzervativnih Demokrata.


Ne. I ovo sam slučajno našao.


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@yayo, anketa o kojoj si govorio?



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Da to je ta. Ima ih još sa sličnim rezultatima.


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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Ovaj sajt ima sve statewide i nationwide ankete. Jedan od pouzdanijih u USA.


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Moguće da i Trump osvoji nominaciju, Neoconovi su ipak već imali svoju priliku i nisu je iskoristili. Baš sam pročitao kolumnu teksaškog guvernera Ricka Perryja kako Trump nije pravi čovjek za ovo teško vrijeme, naravno započevši s vanjskom politikom. Njegova rješenja tih problema su ukinuti sporazum s Iranom(šteti arapskim "saveznicima"), naoružati Ukrajinu i pojačati sankcije Rusiji te se aktivnije uključiti u Siriju, odnosno bombardirati i Assada. Čovjek bi nas praktički odveo u treći svjetski rat. U odnosu na to, Trump koji se uglavnom orijentirao na povećanje slobode tržišta i kontrolu imigracije je pravo osvježenje.

Također, i s demokratske strane se pojavio novi kandidat, Bernie Sanders, najlijeviji ozbiljni kandidat za nominaciju od pedesetih.

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volvoks je napisao/la:
Moguće da i Trump osvoji nominaciju, Neoconovi su ipak već imali svoju priliku i nisu je iskoristili. Baš sam pročitao kolumnu teksaškog guvernera Ricka Perryja kako Trump nije pravi čovjek za ovo teško vrijeme, naravno započevši s vanjskom politikom. Njegova rješenja tih problema su ukinuti sporazum s Iranom(šteti arapskim "saveznicima"), naoružati Ukrajinu i pojačati sankcije Rusiji te se aktivnije uključiti u Siriju, odnosno bombardirati i Assada. Čovjek bi nas praktički odveo u treći svjetski rat. U odnosu na to, Trump koji se uglavnom orijentirao na povećanje slobode tržišta i kontrolu imigracije je pravo osvježenje.

Također, i s demokratske strane se pojavio novi kandidat, Bernie Sanders, najlijeviji ozbiljni kandidat za nominaciju od pedesetih.


Sanders je karikatura. Hillary će to pomest.


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Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Colorado: Bush vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Bush 41, Clinton 36 Bush +5
Colorado: Walker vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Walker 47, Clinton 38 Walker +9
Colorado: Rubio vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Rubio 46, Clinton 38 Rubio +8
Virginia: Bush vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Bush 42, Clinton 39 Bush +3
Virginia: Walker vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Walker 43, Clinton 40 Walker +3
Virginia: Rubio vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Rubio 43, Clinton 41 Rubio +2
Iowa: Bush vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Bush 42, Clinton 36 Bush +6
Iowa: Walker vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Walker 45, Clinton 37 Walker +8
Iowa: Rubio vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Rubio 44, Clinton 36 Rubio +8
Colorado: Bush vs. Biden Quinnipiac Bush 45, Biden 36 Bush +9
Colorado: Walker vs. Biden Quinnipiac Walker 48, Biden 36 Walker +12
Colorado: Rubio vs. Biden Quinnipiac Rubio 49, Biden 35 Rubio +14
Virginia: Bush vs. Biden Quinnipiac Bush 45, Biden 40 Bush +5
Virginia: Walker vs. Biden Quinnipiac Walker 45, Biden 41 Walker +4
Virginia: Rubio vs. Biden Quinnipiac Rubio 45, Biden 41 Rubio +4
Iowa: Bush vs. Biden Quinnipiac Bush 44, Biden 37 Bush +7
Iowa: Walker vs. Biden Quinnipiac Walker 47, Biden 36 Walker +11
Iowa: Rubio vs. Biden Quinnipiac Rubio 45, Biden 37 Rubio +8
Colorado: Bush vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Bush 43, Sanders 37 Bush +6
Colorado: Walker vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Walker 44, Sanders 36 Walker +8
Colorado: Rubio vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Rubio 46, Sanders 35 Rubio +11
Virginia: Bush vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Bush 46, Sanders 36 Bush +10
Virginia: Walker vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Walker 44, Sanders 36 Walker +8
Virginia: Rubio vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Rubio 44, Sanders 37 Rubio +7
Iowa: Bush vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Bush 42, Sanders 38 Bush +4
Iowa: Walker vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Walker 44, Sanders 36 Walker +8
Iowa: Rubio vs. Sanders Quinnipiac Rubio 43, Sanders 36 Rubio +7


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Ovdje imamo ankete za savezne države Virginiu, Colorado i Iowu.
One jasno pokazuju kako Republikancima raste popularnost budući da je u sve tri države na prijašnjim anketama vodila Hillary.


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Najviše šanse među republikancima zasada ipak Donald Trump.

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Ovaj sajt ima sve statewide i nationwide ankete. Jedan od pouzdanijih u USA.

Vidio sam neke ankete na ovom sajtu, izgleda da Bush i Walker prestižu Hillary u anketama a Trump je nekih 10% iza nje.

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Ankete u razdoblju od šest mjeseci.

Kod Demokrata uočljiv pad popularnost Clinton i rast popularnosti Sandersa.

Kod Republikanaca znatan rast Trumpa, stagnacija Busha te pad Walkera i rast Kasicha.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -3351.html
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Posljednje ankete... Kod republikanaca, Kasich stigao Busha, Trump - ostao uvjerljivo prvi (od zadnjih 14 dana).

Kod Demokrata Sandres prešao u vodstvo, Hillary je druga (od zadnjih 30 dana).


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Poslije Obamine kamilice u retorici, USA se zaželila jastreba i radikalnije (barem) retorike. Vjerojatno su i starim Amerikancima dosadili rijeke novih doseljenika iz Latinske Amerike svake godine, pa su našli barem nekog verbalne utjehe u Trumpovim eskapadama i tiradama protiv Meksikanaca.

USA ne mijenja lako smjer. Koloplet interesa korporacija, već ustaljenih pozicija moćnih obitelji, kojima nije toliko bitno tko će biti na samom čelu USA, mada ne i skroz nevažno.

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Ja sam napravio ovakav scenarij u glavi.

Za republikanskog kandidata biti će izabran netko umjeren, na koga republikanci računaju da može odnijeti velik broj glasova kod neodlučnih, pa i od demokrata. To je vjerojatno Jeb Bush ili John Kasich. Iako je Donald Trump vrlo popularan, smatram da on nikako ne može biti republikanski kandidat, jer će osigurati isključivo glasove 'desnice'. Nakon što Bush ili Kasich budu izabrani kao republikanski kandidat, Trump, koji je snažan igrač i poduzetnik, će voditi neovisnu predsjedničku utrku.

Trump će republikancima oduzeti 'sigurne' glasove 'desnice', i olakšati demokratskom kandidatu izbornu pobjedu. Vjerojatno će se radit o Hillary Clinton.


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Ja sam napravio ovakav scenarij u glavi.

Za republikanskog kandidata biti će izabran netko umjeren, na koga republikanci računaju da može odnijeti velik broj glasova kod neodlučnih, pa i od demokrata. To je vjerojatno Jeb Bush ili John Kasich. Iako je Donald Trump vrlo popularan, smatram da on nikako ne može biti republikanski kandidat, jer će osigurati isključivo glasove 'desnice'. Nakon što Bush ili Kasich budu izabrani kao republikanski kandidat, Trump, koji je snažan igrač i poduzetnik, će voditi neovisnu predsjedničku utrku.

Trump će republikancima oduzeti 'sigurne' glasove 'desnice', i olakšati demokratskom kandidatu izbornu pobjedu. Vjerojatno će se radit o Hillary Clinton.


I meni se cini tacno ovo sto pricas za Trumpa...

Navijacu za bilo koga protiv Hillary... jer ako ona uzme mesto, a vrlo je moguce, to ce sve biti kompletna farsa...dinasticka vladavina posle Busha, sto je mnogo, mnogo je...

Uvek kibicerski ispratim americke izbore, izaberem mog konja za trku, i onda pratim kako dolaze rezultati...prvo istocna obala New York i ono severno je obicno demokratski plavo... juzno od NY je vec sareno... tu je vec, Pensilvanija i Virginia kao "swing" drzave, gde se vec nazire ko ima ukupnu prednost... Florida je veliki zalogaj, tu ko slomi, vrlo moguce dobija... zanimljive su i one unutrasnje mape Floride, na jugu gde su hispanosi uvek je plavo, dok severni krajevi gde zive bogati belci, crveni...

Onda dolazi "bible belt" gde je crveno suvereno, Dzordzija, Alabama, Akranzas...sve do Texasa... u utrobi Amerike znacajan je Ohajo, mnogo elektorskih poena, i Kolorado sat kasnije... tu se onda vec sve zna, zapadna obala je nepopravljivo plava, Havaji takodje, a Aljaska crvena...

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CLEVELAND, OH - AUGUST 06: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump participates in the first prime-time presidential debate hosted by FOX News and Facebook at the Quicken Loans Arena August 6, 2015 in Cleveland, Ohio. The top-ten GOP candidates were selected to participate in the debate based on their rank in an average of the five most recent national political polls. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
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Donald Trump's poll numbers have him competitive in a general election, a new CNN/ORC poll shows
Clinton's race for the Democratic nomination is also tightening, the poll shows
Washington (CNN)Since announcing his campaign in late June, Donald Trump has quickly leapt to the top of the Republican field, leading recent polls nationally, in Iowa and in New Hampshire. And now, for the first time in CNN/ORC polling, his gains among the Republican Party have boosted him enough to be competitive in the general election.

CNN Interactive: 2016 election candidates

The poll finds Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton ahead of Trump by just 6 points, a dramatic tightening since July. Trump is the one of three Republican candidates who have been matched against Clinton multiple times in CNN/ORC polling to significantly whittle the gap between himself and the Democratic frontrunner. He trailed Clinton by 16 points in a July poll, and narrowed that gap by boosting his standing among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (from 67% support in July to 79% now), men (from 46% in July to 53% now) and white voters (from 50% to 55%).

But Clinton still holds the cards overall in the race for the White House, leading four Republican contenders: She tops Trump and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker by 6 points each among registered voters, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush by 9 points, and businesswoman Carly Fiorina by 10 points.

Po anketama Trump ipak ima šanse protiv Hillary, drži jednako odstojanje kao i umjereniji republikanski kandidati. S obzirom na brzi rast popularnosti, ne bih se začudio ni da povede. Također, elektori bi si mogli preplašiti njegove ucjene s nezavisnom kandidaturom i kako bi održali kakvu takvu šansu protiv clintonice izabrati upravo njega za kandidata.

Tuta, što se tiče Kasicha, on je jak na sjeveroistoku samo, tako da nema šanse da bude izabran kao umjereni kandidat.

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Tuta, što se tiče Kasicha, on je jak na sjeveroistoku samo, tako da nema šanse da bude izabran kao umjereni kandidat.


Da nema šanse, vjerojatno ne bi imao niti kampanju. Otkuda ti ova tvrdnja?

Kasich je jedina dobra zamjena u slučaju da Bush falšuje.


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Ja sam napravio ovakav scenarij u glavi.

Za republikanskog kandidata biti će izabran netko umjeren, na koga republikanci računaju da može odnijeti velik broj glasova kod neodlučnih, pa i od demokrata. To je vjerojatno Jeb Bush ili John Kasich. Iako je Donald Trump vrlo popularan, smatram da on nikako ne može biti republikanski kandidat, jer će osigurati isključivo glasove 'desnice'. Nakon što Bush ili Kasich budu izabrani kao republikanski kandidat, Trump, koji je snažan igrač i poduzetnik, će voditi neovisnu predsjedničku utrku.

Trump će republikancima oduzeti 'sigurne' glasove 'desnice', i olakšati demokratskom kandidatu izbornu pobjedu. Vjerojatno će se radit o Hillary Clinton.


I meni se cini tacno ovo sto pricas za Trumpa...

Navijacu za bilo koga protiv Hillary... jer ako ona uzme mesto, a vrlo je moguce, to ce sve biti kompletna farsa...dinasticka vladavina posle Busha, sto je mnogo, mnogo je...

Uvek kibicerski ispratim americke izbore, izaberem mog konja za trku, i onda pratim kako dolaze rezultati...prvo istocna obala New York i ono severno je obicno demokratski plavo... juzno od NY je vec sareno... tu je vec, Pensilvanija i Virginia kao "swing" drzave, gde se vec nazire ko ima ukupnu prednost... Florida je veliki zalogaj, tu ko slomi, vrlo moguce dobija... zanimljive su i one unutrasnje mape Floride, na jugu gde su hispanosi uvek je plavo, dok severni krajevi gde zive bogati belci, crveni...

Onda dolazi "bible belt" gde je crveno suvereno, Dzordzija, Alabama, Akranzas...sve do Texasa... u utrobi Amerike znacajan je Ohajo, mnogo elektorskih poena, i Kolorado sat kasnije... tu se onda vec sve zna, zapadna obala je nepopravljivo plava, Havaji takodje, a Aljaska crvena...



Pa jest, zato su bitne te tzv. 'swing' države. Za taj tzv. Biblijski pojas se zna da ga drže republikanci, kao što se zna da NY i CA drže demokrati.


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Tuta, što se tiče Kasicha, on je jak na sjeveroistoku samo, tako da nema šanse da bude izabran kao umjereni kandidat.


Da nema šanse, vjerojatno ne bi imao niti kampanju. Otkuda ti ova tvrdnja?

Kasich je jedina dobra zamjena u slučaju da Bush falšuje.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... op-primary

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