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 Naslov: Je li crkva spremna na sudar sa biotehnologijom?
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Biotehnologija je znanost u kojoj se krije neviđeni potencijal, i koja sudeći po svemu napreduje punom parom, daleko od očiju novinara, koji jednostavno nisu kvalificirani niti zainteresirani za izvještavanje najnovijih dostignuća, osim sa vremena na vrijeme nešto o DNK ili mogućnosti lijeka za rak ili nešto slično. Postavit ću vrlo zanimljiv članak (na engleskom) koji sam dobio neki dan.

Dojam je da će znanost za manje od jedne generacije biti u stanju liječiti apsolutno sve moguće bolesti sa manipulacijom genetskog koda, regeneracijom stanica, replikacijom organa, pa čak i sa kloniranjem ljudi.

Ako na trenutak odbacimo skepsu i zamislimo svijet u kojem je sve to moguće, gdje se garantira skoro beskonačni život, kako će se crkva uklopiti u sve to? Čovjek doista postaje Bog, kreator čuda većih nego bilo što opisano u bibliji, gospodar života i smrti.

Uvijek će biti prostora za neku duhovnost i neodgovorena pitanja, ali ukoliko doista dođe do ovih dostignuća, crkva bi vrlo lako mogla biti prevaziđena i odbačena kao što se desilo sa nekim arhaičnim oblicima vjerovanja, mnogoboštvu i sl.

Nemojte me napadati radi postavljanja pitanja - ovo je hipotetski scenario, ali ipak sci-fi koji svakim danom postaje realnost.

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Regenerative Medicine

This is numero uno; stem cell technologies. They may not be first to market, but the technology's potential is unparalleled in history for reasons I'll explain. Other huge transformational technologies may treat and prevent currently incurable diseases before regenerative medicine matures. Stem cells, however, are unique in their ability to rejuvenate the human biology. I'm not, by the way, talking about obsolete embryonic stem cells (eSCs). Despite the political rhetoric, the scientific action has moved far beyond eSCs to several other forms of stem cells.

Unless you are reading scientific publications, however, you probably wouldn't know this. In fact, the scientific literature itself is usually outdated because leading stem cell scientists are not working in academia with its "publish or perish" pressures. The last thing that scientists in start-ups and small caps want to do is give away the inside information about their innovations. As a result, almost none of the real breakthrough news in stem cell or other cutting edge science makes it to the mainstream or financial medias. Let me prove my point with a pop quiz.

Q: How long will it be before scientists can duplicate the army of clones scenario that George Lucas portrayed in Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones. In other words, when will scientists be able to swab the inside of your mouth, take a single cell and turn it into an unlimited horde of healthy babies, each with your identical DNA?

A: If you said "several years ago," you are right. This is routine, well-established science at this point. We don't believe anybody has actually used this ability with humans yet, for obvious ethical reasons. Scientists, however, have taken adult skin cells from mice and transformed them into a new kind of stem cell called an induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells. Those iPS cells have, in turn, been allowed to develop into healthy adult mice.

As dramatic as this ability is, it is not particularly useful outside of agriculture where the technology will be used to produce perfect livestock. The real promise of iPS cells is "potentiation" for specific medical needs. What I'm talking about is taking an iPS cell, which is fundamentally identical to an embryonic stem cell, and programming it to repair aged or damage tissues.

Potentiated iPS cells could be be grown, using your own cells, that would rejuvenate your heart muscles, one of the muscle tissues that cannot regenerate on its own. These cells could be programmed to become fresh cartilage, another cell type that doesn't regenerate, thus giving the aged and arthritis sufferers youthful pain-free joints.

We're looking at non-surgical organ replacement, one cell at a time. An injection or series of injections of these potentiated stem cells would, for example, transform an aged, damaged liver into a healthy youthful organ.

Someone suffering from severe diabetes could get off-the-shelf islet cells that produce insulin, saving their lives and allowing them to live normal lives. People who are blind due to macular degeneration could see again. You name it, these extraordinary cells will do it. In fact, they did do it. Every cell in your body, cartilage, kidney, heart, skin and bones, started out as a stem cell.

So let's have another quiz.

Q: How long will it be before the programming code for cartilage stem cells is cracked.

A: Once again, the answer is that it has already happened. Top private industry scientists have decoded the secrets of hundreds of cell types and are experimenting now with cartilage, nerve and other cell types. Human tests, probably offshore because of the FDA's snail pace, will begin if not this year, then next year. These therapies will be offered initially outside the United States. Many of us believe that, once Americans begin coming back home healed of conditions previously thought incurable, the FDA will bow to public demand. Regenerative medicine will inevitably be fast-tracked.

(Note: there will be lots of scams offering all sorts of purported stem cell therapies offshore offering "cures" for all sorts of diseases. Don't buy them or subject yourself to them. The legitimate players will surface over time, associated with real hospitals and researchers.)

There is one final aspect to the regenerative medicine picture that makes it especially attractive to long-term investors. Let me tell you a story to make this point.

Last year, I was in Canada speaking at a financial conference about emerging biotechnologies. I was privileged to share the forum with Harvard futurist, best-selling author and venture capitalist, Juan Enriquez. Enriquez is a major force in cellular engineering, working closely with the genius ex-surfer Craig Venter who cracked the human genome for a fraction of the cost and in a fraction of the time that the US government had allotted. President Clinton, in fact, issued an emergency executive order denying Venter IP rights to the genome he had decoded.

Today, Venter is applying his genetic genius to the other end of DNA complexity. He is developing the tools to reprogram the genetically simplest life: microorganisms. Venter compares DNA to computer code and scientists following his work say he will create the first artificial life form, probably this year. It will be, in fact, a designer bacteria. More importantly, his next step is engineer algae that secrete high-grade hydrocarbons that can be refined into transportation fuels. ExxonMobil believes him and gave Venter's research firm $300 million to work on the project.

Anyway, I asked Venter's associate, the venture capitalist Enriquez, why his biotech funds weren't invested in stem cells. His answer was straightforward. He said that the IP was already tied up. This is an astonishing fact. The intellectual property, the patents, for this phenomenal rejuvenative technology is already applied for or awarded.

The IP structure of regenerative medicine is unlike most other pharmaceutical or biotech industries, including cellular engineering. Traditional drug discovery, in fact, consists largely of identifying which of many molecules can do a certain thing. Frequently, only a small percentage of possible candidates are identified and then, through an elimination process, one is identified for testing and approval.

Cellular engineering is more dramatic but the potential number of new biofuel-producing algae is theoretically unlimited. Anyone who creates a new breed of algae can patent only that microorganism.

This is not the case with stem cells. There are very few "pluripotent" stem cell types that can become all the other cells. Already, the means of producing these cells and, in many cases, the cells themselves have been patented or applied for.

To invest in algae biofuels, which I probably will do, I will have to pick the most likely winners from a field of players to guarantee owning the big transformational winners. This is possible but it is much riskier than the stem cell space. This is because the number of companies that hold the bulk of the really valuable IP and patent applications can be counted on one hand. If big pharma wants into the regenerative medicine business, and they will, they're going to have to pay these tiny small caps for the right. This reduces the risk of buying losers enormously.

RNA Interference

There are many standalone breakthroughs in biotech and I'll mention a few in a bit. First, I want to tell you about the other big biotechnology industry, RNA interference. RNAi is a perfect fit with regenerative medicine, which has the power to restore damaged and aged tissues but does not attack the causes of diseases. This is where RNA interference fits in.

This field is actually younger even than stem cell sciences. The scientific paper that broke open the field was published in 1998 and the Nobel Prize for medicine was awarded to its authors in just four years ago in 2006. RNAi had one major advantage over regenerative medicine, however. It was not effected by the political and moral controversies that regenerative medicine faced before it moved past embryonic stem cells. As a result, researchers have had no trouble getting government and private funding.

Here is the overview. Our DNA is, in effect, locked and protected in a cellular clean room without a door. DNA communicates with the rest of the body by sending out messages with orders to turn genes on or off. Those messages are RNA, or ribonucleic acid. Therefore, the right RNA sequence can be introduced to the body to mimic those messages, which are then identified as invaders. The provokes the body to treat certain of its own RNA messages as invaders and destroy them.

This is RNA interference and it provides the ability to control any of the genes in our body and the proteins they produce. Those proteins, in turn, are the key to most human diseases. RNAi can both increase and decrease these proteins, providing cures for innumerable diseases. The companies that own those therapies will, in turn, become new pharm giants or they will be acquired by existing pharma.

RNAi researchers are working on drugs that could reduce production of bad cholesterol or increase production of the good form. RNAi could be used to turn off the gene that allows cancers to develop capillary networks. Similarly, it has been demonstrated to turn off the gene that provokes the excess blood delivery that causes wet macular degeneration. It could moderate the ability of the body to store fat or increase muscle mass. In could turn off hypertension or insulin resistance as well as neoplasias such as tumors, infections, and neurodegenerative disorders like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's Disease.

For the first time, science is looking not to treat symptoms, but to actually stop the gene functions that cause diseases. This is truly a revolution. The challenge to this remarkably young science now is the actual delivery of RNAi drugs to cells. We know they work in the lab but RNA molecules are large and fragile, so they don't penetrate cellular membranes under normal circumstances. Additionally, the body tends to clear itself of RNAi drugs through the kidneys or inside the cell itself. Nuclease, which exists inside the cell, also breaks down RNA.

For this reason, a number of delivery mechanisms are being developed to safely transport the RNA as a payload. A handful of small companies with superb talent and IP are racing to perfect their own varying solutions. Each has a different approach to solving the delivery problem but all have demonstrated efficacy. At this point, we don't know which will yield the big solutions. It appears increasingly likely, however, that different platforms will be best suited for different RNAi applications. Each has huge profit potential. RNAi drugs are in trials and big pharm has already snapped up one small cap player.

The Nanotech/IT/Biotech Convergence

I've already mentioned cellular engineering. Craig Venter calls cells hardware and DNA software. He treats DNA like the ones and zeroes in current software. The same IT/biotech convergence is also evident in new in silico experimentation.

Nanotechnologies are contributing indirectly to the explosion in biotech innovation indirectly through new lithographic chip fabrication techniques that increase computer speed and power. The decoding of the stem cell potentiation process relies on this power and would have been impossible only ten years ago. Nanotechnologies are also directly impacting a whole range of biotech applications by allowing increasingly smaller interventions.

I read very recently an editorial in the Wall Street Journal by a writer and research at Ethics and Public Policy Center. In it, he basically declares Richard Feynman's original vision of nanotechnologies a bust. He obviously isn't reading my newsletter because we are currently seeing animal tests of new medicines that combing nanotech polymer structures with biological parts in ways that trick and attack viruses. Already on the market are nanotech sensing systems using submicrosopic biological components married to metal molecules that provide nearly instantaneous diagnoses of a rapidly expanding range of pathogens.

These sensors are going to power an even larger revolution in personalized medicine. For those unfamiliar with the concept, allow me to explain.

Currently, medicine is, to a large degree, a "one size fits all" proposition. Doctors watch for adverse effects and check personal and family histories. Medical technologies, however, are designed for the general population, not individuals.

That's going to change.

We know that many current treatments work on some people, yet not others. Some drugs are safe for many people, but have dangerous side effects for others. Some are just the opposite. This is because all of us have individual differences in our genetic code based on heredity and environment. Even slight differences can lead to very different reactions to medications.

This has created serious regulatory problems. Drugs are denied regulatory approval not because they do not work, but because some fraction of the population suffers adverse effects. As a result, patients are often denied incredibly effective therapies simply because they are not universally effective.

This shockingly primitive state of affairs exists because, until very lately, we simply have not had the tools to get to the genetic roots of disease. Scientists and pharmaceutical companies haven't precisely known how a particular drug's chemical profile interacts with a genetic one. Medical science, in turn, has been unable to tailor drugs to work with a specific genetic makeup. That is rapidly changing.

The Impact of the Genome

With the mapping of the genome, scientists can now identify single genes and their individual expressions. Nanotech biosensors can identify genetic characteristics in individuals so that individual reactions to drugs can be known before they are taken. It is meaningful, from the investor's perspective, that Dr. Francis Collins, the head of the Human Genome Project, now heads the National Institutes of Health. Collins has long been a prominent champion for using the knowledge gained from human genome to accelerate personalized medicine.

Collins has also stated that genomics is currently where the computer industry was back in the 1970s - at the beginning of a technological revolution. While he was speaking in scientific terms, we should remember that the '70s was also the right time to begin investing in a diversified portfolio of breakthrough computer technologies.

I believe this is true across the board for a range of revolutionary biotechnologies. I also like to remind readers that important innovations traditionally do not slow down during economic turn downs. The Great Depression, in fact, is considered by many to be one of the most important periods in the history of innovation.

What I'm hearing now, talking to people who range from Nobel Prize winners to CEOs of biotech start-ups and small caps, is that the world is going to change very soon in ways that no one is prepared for. Our lives are going to be significantly better and longer.


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 Naslov: Re: Je li crkva spremna na sudar sa biotehnologijom?
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Crkva možda i može biti spremna na to ali vjernici nisu niti će biti spremni.
Religija je, kako Gete reče, štap na koju se oslanja čovjek u svojoj nemoći. Činjenica je da razvojem medicine, socijalne sigurnosti i životnog standarda mnogi gube motivaciju za odlazak u crkvu jer ne osjećaju strah od gladi, ropstva, divljih životinja, vežine bolesti, neprijateljskih hordi, poplave i potresa itd.
Ako čovjeku oduzmemo i onom malo straha od ovo malo neizlječivih bolesti, a damo mu vječiti život (mada je to nemoguće po mom mišljenju, može se eventualno produljiti), onda će čovjek reći: - Što će meni Bog? Što mi može pružiti što već nemam? U tom smislu uloga crkve bi bila moguća ukoliko u prvi plan istakne neke duhovne vrednote i predstavi ih na prihvatljiv način da ljudi shvate da bi sljedeći etičke i duhovne nauke crkve mogli ostvariti mnogo potpuniji i zadovoljniji život u odnosu na puki hedonizam suvremenog društva. Mada, poznavajući ljude, velika manjina to neće prihvatiti.

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 Naslov: Re: Je li crkva spremna na sudar sa biotehnologijom?
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sve dok je čovjek smrtno biće, a nema naznaka da će to prestati biti, potreba za bogom i religijom neće nestati.

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Čovjek se sa znanstvenim prodorima u oblastima i spoznajama o kojima je nekada mogao sanjati, može jedino približiti Bogu sa tim spoznajama, da ne kažem tajnama. Znanost može opovrgavati samo ljudska tumačenja i pamćenja božijih poruka i djela, a nipošto sama ta djela, jer je osnovna postavka da je Bog stvorio čovjeka na svoju sliku, a sad, jeli to znanstveno gledano kloniranje, osvajanje planeta i naseljavanje,...razmnožavanje,...pokazat će znanost.

Bog i znanost su bliski, a vjerske institucije, to je već druga priča...


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Čovjek se sa znanstvenim prodorima u oblastima i spoznajama o kojima je nekada mogao sanjati, može jedino približiti Bogu sa tim spoznajama, da ne kažem tajnama. Znanost može opovrgavati samo ljudska tumačenja i pamćenja božijih poruka i djela, a nipošto sama ta djela, jer je osnovna postavka da je Bog stvorio čovjeka na svoju sliku, a sad, jeli to znanstveno gledano kloniranje, osvajanje planeta i naseljavanje,...razmnožavanje,...pokazat će znanost.

Bog i znanost su bliski, a vjerske institucije, to je već druga priča...


na taj način i razmišljaju svi veliki znanstvenici. sjećam se gostovanja velikog hrvatskog fizičara Paara kod Stankovića kad je rekao da znanstvenici uvijek nailaze na zidove u istraživanjima i kad ne mogu dalje neki kažu sve ostalo je materija, a drugi sve ostalo je bog. neki pak u samoj matematici vide božje brojeve, poput pi, koji sve određuje, a beskonačan je.

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na taj način i razmišljaju svi veliki znanstvenici. sjećam se gostovanja velikog hrvatskog fizičara Paara kod Stankovića kad je rekao da znanstvenici uvijek nailaze na zidove u istraživanjima i kad ne mogu dalje neki kažu sve ostalo je materija, a drugi sve ostalo je bog. neki pak u samoj matematici vide božje brojeve, poput pi, koji sve određuje, a beskonačan je.


Otuda i toliko zanimanje za tumačenje "božijih poruka" kod znanstvenika, jer mnogi misle da se "između redova", nekad i matematičkim kombinacijama i permutacijama riječi i njihovog značenja, može doći do drugačijeg tumačenja poruka, što ako je točno samo po sebi predstavlja znanstveno otkriće. Stvaranje čovjeka od "praha", a žene od čovjekovog "uzorka"(rebra), gledajući maštovitijim očima molekularnog biologa će doskora biti omogućeno i čovjeku, znači ono što je već na početku Bog rekao da je moguće uz poruku da mu treba vjerovati.
Pitanje koje Crkva vjerovatno upućuje je treba li čovjek sebe staviti u poziciju da bude "Stvoritelj"?


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dudu je napisao/la:
na taj način i razmišljaju svi veliki znanstvenici. sjećam se gostovanja velikog hrvatskog fizičara Paara kod Stankovića kad je rekao da znanstvenici uvijek nailaze na zidove u istraživanjima i kad ne mogu dalje neki kažu sve ostalo je materija, a drugi sve ostalo je bog. neki pak u samoj matematici vide božje brojeve, poput pi, koji sve određuje, a beskonačan je.


Otuda i toliko zanimanje za tumačenje "božijih poruka" kod znanstvenika, jer mnogi misle da se "između redova", nekad i matematičkim kombinacijama i permutacijama riječi i njihovog značenja, može doći do drugačijeg tumačenja poruka, što ako je točno samo po sebi predstavlja znanstveno otkriće. Stvaranje čovjeka od "praha", a žene od čovjekovog "uzorka"(rebra), gledajući maštovitijim očima molekularnog biologa će doskora biti omogućeno i čovjeku, znači ono što je već na početku Bog rekao da je moguće uz poruku da mu treba vjerovati.
Pitanje koje Crkva vjerovatno upućuje je treba li čovjek sebe staviti u poziciju da bude "Stvoritelj"?


Crkva još funkcionira na načelim Srednjeg vijeka, nema tu nekog naročitog pomaka. i sve novine ju plaše, umjesto da je upravo suprotno.

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Crkva još funkcionira na načelim Srednjeg vijeka, nema tu nekog naročitog pomaka. i sve novine ju plaše, umjesto da je upravo suprotno.


Mislim da se Crkva ne plaši otkrića kao takvog, npr. kloniranje, medicina i to,...nego kako će to djelovati na ljude i njihove odnose. Konkretno kloniranjem čovjek postaje doslovno roba ili životinja koja se može uzgajati, naručivati, križati,...
Uostalom oni mogu samo gledati to, i bolje. Kad se Crkva bavila naukom, držala se slijepo otkrića vatre i njenog utjecaja na ljudsko tijelo... :zubati


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Na tragu sam vaših razmišljanja, valjda nije svetogrđe...a što ste niste javili na onoj temi "Uslišene molitve ili spontana regresija?"

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vjera u Boga i znanost, po meni, ne isključuju se. vjerujem da je Bog stvorio čovjeka i svijet, al vjerujem i znanosti. no ne znači da je on mahnuo rukom i dogodilo se to i to. vjerujem da čovjek, što više spoznaje stvari, istina o sebi i svijetu oko sebe, više cijeni to Božje čudo - život. najbolje se cijeni slika ako poznaješ slikara.

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Biotehnologija je znanost u kojoj se krije neviđeni potencijal, i koja sudeći po svemu napreduje punom parom, daleko od očiju novinara, koji jednostavno nisu kvalificirani niti zainteresirani za izvještavanje najnovijih dostignuća, osim sa vremena na vrijeme nešto o DNK ili mogućnosti lijeka za rak ili nešto slično. Postavit ću vrlo zanimljiv članak (na engleskom) koji sam dobio neki dan.

Dojam je da će znanost za manje od jedne generacije biti u stanju liječiti apsolutno sve moguće bolesti sa manipulacijom genetskog koda, regeneracijom stanica, replikacijom organa, pa čak i sa kloniranjem ljudi.

Ako na trenutak odbacimo skepsu i zamislimo svijet u kojem je sve to moguće, gdje se garantira skoro beskonačni život, kako će se crkva uklopiti u sve to? Čovjek doista postaje Bog, kreator čuda većih nego bilo što opisano u bibliji, gospodar života i smrti.

Uvijek će biti prostora za neku duhovnost i neodgovorena pitanja, ali ukoliko doista dođe do ovih dostignuća, crkva bi vrlo lako mogla biti prevaziđena i odbačena kao što se desilo sa nekim arhaičnim oblicima vjerovanja, mnogoboštvu i sl.

Nemojte me napadati radi postavljanja pitanja - ovo je hipotetski scenario, ali ipak sci-fi koji svakim danom postaje realnost.

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Regenerative Medicine

This is numero uno; stem cell technologies. They may not be first to market, but the technology's potential is unparalleled in history for reasons I'll explain. Other huge transformational technologies may treat and prevent currently incurable diseases before regenerative medicine matures. Stem cells, however, are unique in their ability to rejuvenate the human biology. I'm not, by the way, talking about obsolete embryonic stem cells (eSCs). Despite the political rhetoric, the scientific action has moved far beyond eSCs to several other forms of stem cells.

Unless you are reading scientific publications, however, you probably wouldn't know this. In fact, the scientific literature itself is usually outdated because leading stem cell scientists are not working in academia with its "publish or perish" pressures. The last thing that scientists in start-ups and small caps want to do is give away the inside information about their innovations. As a result, almost none of the real breakthrough news in stem cell or other cutting edge science makes it to the mainstream or financial medias. Let me prove my point with a pop quiz.

Q: How long will it be before scientists can duplicate the army of clones scenario that George Lucas portrayed in Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones. In other words, when will scientists be able to swab the inside of your mouth, take a single cell and turn it into an unlimited horde of healthy babies, each with your identical DNA?

A: If you said "several years ago," you are right. This is routine, well-established science at this point. We don't believe anybody has actually used this ability with humans yet, for obvious ethical reasons. Scientists, however, have taken adult skin cells from mice and transformed them into a new kind of stem cell called an induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells. Those iPS cells have, in turn, been allowed to develop into healthy adult mice.

As dramatic as this ability is, it is not particularly useful outside of agriculture where the technology will be used to produce perfect livestock. The real promise of iPS cells is "potentiation" for specific medical needs. What I'm talking about is taking an iPS cell, which is fundamentally identical to an embryonic stem cell, and programming it to repair aged or damage tissues.

Potentiated iPS cells could be be grown, using your own cells, that would rejuvenate your heart muscles, one of the muscle tissues that cannot regenerate on its own. These cells could be programmed to become fresh cartilage, another cell type that doesn't regenerate, thus giving the aged and arthritis sufferers youthful pain-free joints.

We're looking at non-surgical organ replacement, one cell at a time. An injection or series of injections of these potentiated stem cells would, for example, transform an aged, damaged liver into a healthy youthful organ.

Someone suffering from severe diabetes could get off-the-shelf islet cells that produce insulin, saving their lives and allowing them to live normal lives. People who are blind due to macular degeneration could see again. You name it, these extraordinary cells will do it. In fact, they did do it. Every cell in your body, cartilage, kidney, heart, skin and bones, started out as a stem cell.

So let's have another quiz.

Q: How long will it be before the programming code for cartilage stem cells is cracked.

A: Once again, the answer is that it has already happened. Top private industry scientists have decoded the secrets of hundreds of cell types and are experimenting now with cartilage, nerve and other cell types. Human tests, probably offshore because of the FDA's snail pace, will begin if not this year, then next year. These therapies will be offered initially outside the United States. Many of us believe that, once Americans begin coming back home healed of conditions previously thought incurable, the FDA will bow to public demand. Regenerative medicine will inevitably be fast-tracked.

(Note: there will be lots of scams offering all sorts of purported stem cell therapies offshore offering "cures" for all sorts of diseases. Don't buy them or subject yourself to them. The legitimate players will surface over time, associated with real hospitals and researchers.)

There is one final aspect to the regenerative medicine picture that makes it especially attractive to long-term investors. Let me tell you a story to make this point.

Last year, I was in Canada speaking at a financial conference about emerging biotechnologies. I was privileged to share the forum with Harvard futurist, best-selling author and venture capitalist, Juan Enriquez. Enriquez is a major force in cellular engineering, working closely with the genius ex-surfer Craig Venter who cracked the human genome for a fraction of the cost and in a fraction of the time that the US government had allotted. President Clinton, in fact, issued an emergency executive order denying Venter IP rights to the genome he had decoded.

Today, Venter is applying his genetic genius to the other end of DNA complexity. He is developing the tools to reprogram the genetically simplest life: microorganisms. Venter compares DNA to computer code and scientists following his work say he will create the first artificial life form, probably this year. It will be, in fact, a designer bacteria. More importantly, his next step is engineer algae that secrete high-grade hydrocarbons that can be refined into transportation fuels. ExxonMobil believes him and gave Venter's research firm $300 million to work on the project.

Anyway, I asked Venter's associate, the venture capitalist Enriquez, why his biotech funds weren't invested in stem cells. His answer was straightforward. He said that the IP was already tied up. This is an astonishing fact. The intellectual property, the patents, for this phenomenal rejuvenative technology is already applied for or awarded.

The IP structure of regenerative medicine is unlike most other pharmaceutical or biotech industries, including cellular engineering. Traditional drug discovery, in fact, consists largely of identifying which of many molecules can do a certain thing. Frequently, only a small percentage of possible candidates are identified and then, through an elimination process, one is identified for testing and approval.

Cellular engineering is more dramatic but the potential number of new biofuel-producing algae is theoretically unlimited. Anyone who creates a new breed of algae can patent only that microorganism.

This is not the case with stem cells. There are very few "pluripotent" stem cell types that can become all the other cells. Already, the means of producing these cells and, in many cases, the cells themselves have been patented or applied for.

To invest in algae biofuels, which I probably will do, I will have to pick the most likely winners from a field of players to guarantee owning the big transformational winners. This is possible but it is much riskier than the stem cell space. This is because the number of companies that hold the bulk of the really valuable IP and patent applications can be counted on one hand. If big pharma wants into the regenerative medicine business, and they will, they're going to have to pay these tiny small caps for the right. This reduces the risk of buying losers enormously.

RNA Interference

There are many standalone breakthroughs in biotech and I'll mention a few in a bit. First, I want to tell you about the other big biotechnology industry, RNA interference. RNAi is a perfect fit with regenerative medicine, which has the power to restore damaged and aged tissues but does not attack the causes of diseases. This is where RNA interference fits in.

This field is actually younger even than stem cell sciences. The scientific paper that broke open the field was published in 1998 and the Nobel Prize for medicine was awarded to its authors in just four years ago in 2006. RNAi had one major advantage over regenerative medicine, however. It was not effected by the political and moral controversies that regenerative medicine faced before it moved past embryonic stem cells. As a result, researchers have had no trouble getting government and private funding.

Here is the overview. Our DNA is, in effect, locked and protected in a cellular clean room without a door. DNA communicates with the rest of the body by sending out messages with orders to turn genes on or off. Those messages are RNA, or ribonucleic acid. Therefore, the right RNA sequence can be introduced to the body to mimic those messages, which are then identified as invaders. The provokes the body to treat certain of its own RNA messages as invaders and destroy them.

This is RNA interference and it provides the ability to control any of the genes in our body and the proteins they produce. Those proteins, in turn, are the key to most human diseases. RNAi can both increase and decrease these proteins, providing cures for innumerable diseases. The companies that own those therapies will, in turn, become new pharm giants or they will be acquired by existing pharma.

RNAi researchers are working on drugs that could reduce production of bad cholesterol or increase production of the good form. RNAi could be used to turn off the gene that allows cancers to develop capillary networks. Similarly, it has been demonstrated to turn off the gene that provokes the excess blood delivery that causes wet macular degeneration. It could moderate the ability of the body to store fat or increase muscle mass. In could turn off hypertension or insulin resistance as well as neoplasias such as tumors, infections, and neurodegenerative disorders like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's Disease.

For the first time, science is looking not to treat symptoms, but to actually stop the gene functions that cause diseases. This is truly a revolution. The challenge to this remarkably young science now is the actual delivery of RNAi drugs to cells. We know they work in the lab but RNA molecules are large and fragile, so they don't penetrate cellular membranes under normal circumstances. Additionally, the body tends to clear itself of RNAi drugs through the kidneys or inside the cell itself. Nuclease, which exists inside the cell, also breaks down RNA.

For this reason, a number of delivery mechanisms are being developed to safely transport the RNA as a payload. A handful of small companies with superb talent and IP are racing to perfect their own varying solutions. Each has a different approach to solving the delivery problem but all have demonstrated efficacy. At this point, we don't know which will yield the big solutions. It appears increasingly likely, however, that different platforms will be best suited for different RNAi applications. Each has huge profit potential. RNAi drugs are in trials and big pharm has already snapped up one small cap player.

The Nanotech/IT/Biotech Convergence

I've already mentioned cellular engineering. Craig Venter calls cells hardware and DNA software. He treats DNA like the ones and zeroes in current software. The same IT/biotech convergence is also evident in new in silico experimentation.

Nanotechnologies are contributing indirectly to the explosion in biotech innovation indirectly through new lithographic chip fabrication techniques that increase computer speed and power. The decoding of the stem cell potentiation process relies on this power and would have been impossible only ten years ago. Nanotechnologies are also directly impacting a whole range of biotech applications by allowing increasingly smaller interventions.

I read very recently an editorial in the Wall Street Journal by a writer and research at Ethics and Public Policy Center. In it, he basically declares Richard Feynman's original vision of nanotechnologies a bust. He obviously isn't reading my newsletter because we are currently seeing animal tests of new medicines that combing nanotech polymer structures with biological parts in ways that trick and attack viruses. Already on the market are nanotech sensing systems using submicrosopic biological components married to metal molecules that provide nearly instantaneous diagnoses of a rapidly expanding range of pathogens.

These sensors are going to power an even larger revolution in personalized medicine. For those unfamiliar with the concept, allow me to explain.

Currently, medicine is, to a large degree, a "one size fits all" proposition. Doctors watch for adverse effects and check personal and family histories. Medical technologies, however, are designed for the general population, not individuals.

That's going to change.

We know that many current treatments work on some people, yet not others. Some drugs are safe for many people, but have dangerous side effects for others. Some are just the opposite. This is because all of us have individual differences in our genetic code based on heredity and environment. Even slight differences can lead to very different reactions to medications.

This has created serious regulatory problems. Drugs are denied regulatory approval not because they do not work, but because some fraction of the population suffers adverse effects. As a result, patients are often denied incredibly effective therapies simply because they are not universally effective.

This shockingly primitive state of affairs exists because, until very lately, we simply have not had the tools to get to the genetic roots of disease. Scientists and pharmaceutical companies haven't precisely known how a particular drug's chemical profile interacts with a genetic one. Medical science, in turn, has been unable to tailor drugs to work with a specific genetic makeup. That is rapidly changing.

The Impact of the Genome

With the mapping of the genome, scientists can now identify single genes and their individual expressions. Nanotech biosensors can identify genetic characteristics in individuals so that individual reactions to drugs can be known before they are taken. It is meaningful, from the investor's perspective, that Dr. Francis Collins, the head of the Human Genome Project, now heads the National Institutes of Health. Collins has long been a prominent champion for using the knowledge gained from human genome to accelerate personalized medicine.

Collins has also stated that genomics is currently where the computer industry was back in the 1970s - at the beginning of a technological revolution. While he was speaking in scientific terms, we should remember that the '70s was also the right time to begin investing in a diversified portfolio of breakthrough computer technologies.

I believe this is true across the board for a range of revolutionary biotechnologies. I also like to remind readers that important innovations traditionally do not slow down during economic turn downs. The Great Depression, in fact, is considered by many to be one of the most important periods in the history of innovation.

What I'm hearing now, talking to people who range from Nobel Prize winners to CEOs of biotech start-ups and small caps, is that the world is going to change very soon in ways that no one is prepared for. Our lives are going to be significantly better and longer.



Ukratko:

* u ovom članku se nudi kao opcija bitno zdravstveno poboljšanje kod
niza bolesti (Parkinson, dijabetes,..). No, koliko vidim, nema ni riječi
o nekoj bitnijoj pretvorbi homo sapiensa. To je čak i manja revolucija
od antibiotičke.

* ovo sam pišem iz poluznanja, pa su podatci vjerojatno dubiozni
(genetika me nikada nije uspjela zaintrigirati do kraja). No, koliko
se sjećam iz članak u Sci Am, dešifrirano je oko 100.000 gena od
oko 2 milijuna. Red veličine preko 98% različite DNK proglašen je
za "junk DNA".
http://www.psrast.org/junkdna.htm
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/H ... info.shtml

Dakle-in my book- to navodno dešifriranje DNK nije ništa.
Priroda nije tako darežljivo glupa da stvara viškove od 98%.

* ne vidim -nemam imaginaciju, valjda- kako bi se mogla
promijeniti struktura DNK kod živoga bića. primjer: DNK su esencijalno makromolekule
koje nalazimo u svim stanicama organizma, svugdje. Genetski je kod
takav kakav jest, i ne može se uštrcavanjem bilo čega promijeniti
bijelca u crnca, ili ženu u muškarca. Može se blokirati
djelovanje neke identificirane DNK sekvence- to mi je jasno, i bilo
bi sjajno da se to postigne. No, to je kao injekcija genskoga dijela
koji djeluje kao trajni blokator negativnih utjecaja "loših gena", ali
ne mijenja ništa na "makro-razini". Ljudi stari ne postaju mlađi,
krečana od arterija ostaje krečana, muškarci ostaju muškarci,
invalidi ostaju invalidi.

* glede religije, tu crkvenjaci (posebno KC) dižu buku oko
matičnih stanica. Dijelom su u pravu, jer u tim tipovima istraživanja
ima nešto mengeleovski. Na spiritualnoj razini i nisu u pravu, i da
ih se pobijati vlastitim argumentima. No, ostaje- ima nešto inherentno
odvratno u manipuliranju ljudskim dijelovima kao materijalom.
Nešto iskonski odbojno, poput kanibalizma.


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Crkva je itekako spremna,vjerujem da Crkva ima najbolju obavještajnu sluzbu u svijetu:)
Tako da su sigurno upućeni u sve što se dešava u naučnim laboratorijima.Njihova saznanja daleko premašuju saznanja običnog puka.Moguće da se vrše i doziranja puštanja informacija u javnost.
Crkva nikada neće biti prevazidjena.Pogotovo ne naukom kao takvom.Biotehnologija počiva na materijalnom-a što je sa duhovnim razvojem čovjeka?


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Crkva je itekako spremna,vjerujem da Crkva ima najbolju obavještajnu sluzbu u svijetu:)
Tako da su sigurno upućeni u sve što se dešava u naučnim laboratorijima.Njihova saznanja daleko premašuju saznanja običnog puka.Moguće da se vrše i doziranja puštanja informacija u javnost.
Crkva nikada neće biti prevazidjena.Pogotovo ne naukom kao takvom.Biotehnologija počiva na materijalnom-a što je sa duhovnim razvojem čovjeka?


A koja to crkva? Pošto pravoslavne nisu.
Ovakvim izjavama samo idete na ruku mistifikatorima Vatikana, a to nisu samo srpski mitomani.. :wink
Sa zadnjom rečenicom se slažem.

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Mar-kan je napisao/la:
Crkva je itekako spremna,vjerujem da Crkva ima najbolju obavještajnu sluzbu u svijetu:)
Tako da su sigurno upućeni u sve što se dešava u naučnim laboratorijima.Njihova saznanja daleko premašuju saznanja običnog puka.Moguće da se vrše i doziranja puštanja informacija u javnost.
Crkva nikada neće biti prevazidjena.Pogotovo ne naukom kao takvom.Biotehnologija počiva na materijalnom-a što je sa duhovnim razvojem čovjeka?


A koja to crkva? Pošto pravoslavne nisu.
Ovakvim izjavama samo idete na ruku mistifikatorima Vatikana, a to nisu samo srpski mitomani.. :wink
Sa zadnjom rečenicom se slažem.





Činjenica je da su kako katolički svećenici tako i pravoslavni sveštenici dosta upućeni o zbivanjima na teritoriju svojih župa/parohija. Činjenica je da o tomu izvještavaju svoje nadređene ako je to potrebno - biskupe/episkope koji informacije prosljeđuju dalje
Činjenica je stoga da vrh obiju crkava na taj način ima izgrađenu, sigurnu i pouzdanu informativnu mrežu.

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A koja to crkva? Pošto pravoslavne nisu.
Ovakvim izjavama samo idete na ruku mistifikatorima Vatikana, a to nisu samo srpski mitomani.. :wink
Sa zadnjom rečenicom se slažem.





Činjenica je da su kako katolički svećenici tako i pravoslavni sveštenici dosta upućeni o zbivanjima na teritoriju svojih župa/parohija. Činjenica je da o tomu izvještavaju svoje nadređene ako je to potrebno - biskupe/episkope koji informacije prosljeđuju dalje
Činjenica je stoga da vrh obiju crkava na taj način ima izgrađenu, sigurnu i pouzdanu informativnu mrežu.



Po toj logici i udruženje penzionera ima razgranatu i pouzdanu info-mrežu.

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Što je Real gone? Boli te i neprihvatljiva ti je svaka usporedba SPC sa mrskim Vatikanom? :smajl013

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Što je Real gone? Boli te i neprihvatljiva ti je svaka usporedba SPC sa mrskim Vatikanom? :smajl013


Ajajaaj, šta vam je ovih dana, a ja još branim Vatikan. Lupaš.. :wink :smajl013

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Što je Real gone? Boli te i neprihvatljiva ti je svaka usporedba SPC sa mrskim Vatikanom? :smajl013


Ajajaaj, šta vam je ovih dana, a ja još branim Vatikan. Lupaš.. :wink :smajl013



Ohh oprosti, htio sam napisati - usporedba sa udruženjem penzionera. Moja greška. Znam ja da ti voliš Vatikan i Racingera. :001_cool

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Ajajaaj, šta vam je ovih dana, a ja još branim Vatikan. Lupaš.. :wink :smajl013



Ohh oprosti, htio sam napisati - usporedba sa udruženjem penzionera. Moja greška. Znam ja da ti voliš Vatikan i Racingera. :001_cool


Pa da, ja obožavam penzionere i u isto vreme im zavidim. :zubati Kad samo pomislim koliko ima onih koji su beneficiranim stažom došli do penzija, a kako ću ja morati da radim još cirka 30 godina, i verovatno uskoro uplaćujem u privatne fondove, odmah mi je toplo oko srca i klanjam se ovom sadašnjem divnom kapitalizmu. :zubati

Dakle, ne oftopičari. Razinger je zakon! :zubati

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Crkva je itekako spremna,vjerujem da Crkva ima najbolju obavještajnu sluzbu u svijetu:)
Tako da su sigurno upućeni u sve što se dešava u naučnim laboratorijima.Njihova saznanja daleko premašuju saznanja običnog puka.Moguće da se vrše i doziranja puštanja informacija u javnost.
Crkva nikada neće biti prevazidjena.Pogotovo ne naukom kao takvom.Biotehnologija počiva na materijalnom-a što je sa duhovnim razvojem čovjeka?


A koja to crkva? Pošto pravoslavne nisu.
Ovakvim izjavama samo idete na ruku mistifikatorima Vatikana, a to nisu samo srpski mitomani.. :wink
Sa zadnjom rečenicom se slažem.


Iznenadila bi se koliko Crkva ima u svojim redovima svećenika-naučnika,i to vrhunskih.


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Crkva je najača "institucija" na svijetu. Crkva to zna i spremna je 100%. Sve što je stvoreno umrijet će. Čovjek pri svakom radu učini grešku tako da su greške moguće i u takvim radovima, a i najmanja rupica potapa veliki brod. ČOVJEK NIJE SAVRŠENSTVO.

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