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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 17:48 |
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Pridružen/a: 30 tra 2020, 18:35 Postovi: 10017 Lokacija: No Country for White Men
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Sayeret Matkal je napisao/la: HHerceg je napisao/la: Gdje ste mi se ispričali? Prijatelji?
_________________ Ta hercegovacka tragedija je bila prva vijest svih dnevnika u BIH (kod Senada prvih 15 minuta cak) a na HRTu 34 minuta. Ko tada nije razumio nikada nece.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 17:54 |
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Pridružen/a: 02 kol 2012, 11:47 Postovi: 39030 Lokacija: Ulica Nemanje Bilbije 99
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Naša Kvačica je napisao/la: VBA2024 je napisao/la: Epitet Dishonorable Scum. Malo je jasnije zašto im Arapi ne pomažu. Arapi ne podnose ove iranske ulizice, Saudijci ih financiraju i opet nezahvalni. Samo Gaza dobila više love nego Hrvatska od EU. Citat: Gaza već godinama živi na račun arapskih zemalja, ali i zapadnog svijeta. U zadnjih pet godina je u Gazu ušlo 19 milijardi dolara, dok je recimo Hrvatska u zadnjih deset godina od Europske unije dobila 10 milijardi. Za taj novac su u Gazi gradili zgrade i tunele i razvijali vojnu industriju.
_________________ mostarski europski
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 18:01 |
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espresso je napisao/la: nisu bule rađale tolike godine da sad samo odu. krah politike demografskog oportunizma.
_________________ "Hrvata je danas u BiH manje od 400.000, ali je naš cilj da nas je milijun", kazao je Čović.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 18:06 |
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dudu je napisao/la: nisu bule rađale tolike godine da sad samo odu.
krah politike demografskog oportunizma.
Citat: EGZODUS PALESTINACA Izrael: Više 600.000 ljudi otišlo je na jug Gaze https://www.dnevnik.ba/vijesti/izrael-v ... ze-2658039I onda kaže UN da se ne može. Gdje je volja tu je i put.
_________________ HR + HB = Hrvatska domovina. Za dom.
Neka živi Dinamo i majka Hrvatska!
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 18:07 |
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Na Zapadnoj obali izbori nisu provedeni od 2005. godine jer Izrael i Fatah vjeruju da bi Hamas sigurno pobjedio. Po anketama na Zapadnoj obali imaju podršku 80% Palestinaca, toliko da nemaju podršku, eno i ona udruga Palestinaca u BiH tvrdi da ih Hamas legitimno predstavlja.
_________________ mostarski europski
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 18:38 |
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Policija se malo aktivirala protiv Hamasovaca u Berlinu
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 18:41 |
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Pridružen/a: 02 kol 2012, 11:47 Postovi: 39030 Lokacija: Ulica Nemanje Bilbije 99
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Zajebane Švabe, ne bi se ja s njima zezao, nije dobro kad puknu. Bome dobro mlati švapska milicija.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 18:46 |
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HHerceg je napisao/la: Sayeret Matkal je napisao/la: Ne moram služiti IDF da bi ih podržavao u veličanstvenoj pobjedi kao što vi simpatizeri Hamasa ne morate ubijati bebe, silovati da bi ovdje podržavali teroriste. Nakon ovakvih gnjusnih laži o podržavanju terorista zahtijevam ispriku ili ću proslijediti prijavu upravništvu foruma! Drug jel istina?
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Švabe u zadnje vrijeme kao da su pukli, ne pričaju engleski, obratiš im se na engleskom i sve te razume ali će odgovorit na njemačkom Naši i stranci pričaju engleski, ako udari ova kriza +koji teroristički napad bit će jebeno
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 18:54 |
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Pridružen/a: 30 tra 2020, 18:35 Postovi: 10017 Lokacija: No Country for White Men
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Karabaja je napisao/la: HHerceg je napisao/la: Nakon ovakvih gnjusnih laži o podržavanju terorista zahtijevam ispriku ili ću proslijediti prijavu upravništvu foruma! Drug jel istina? Nije druže.
_________________ Ta hercegovacka tragedija je bila prva vijest svih dnevnika u BIH (kod Senada prvih 15 minuta cak) a na HRTu 34 minuta. Ko tada nije razumio nikada nece.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:04 |
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:06 |
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Reconquista je napisao/la: dudu je napisao/la: nisu bule rađale tolike godine da sad samo odu.
krah politike demografskog oportunizma.
Citat: EGZODUS PALESTINACA Izrael: Više 600.000 ljudi otišlo je na jug Gaze https://www.dnevnik.ba/vijesti/izrael-v ... ze-2658039I onda kaže UN da se ne može. Gdje je volja tu je i put. pustinjski nomadi Hahahahah kolko su slavili,doslovno dva dana kasnije židovi kažu "BU! napast cemo vas" vec ih milion pobjeglo,prepolovili židovi gazu u dva dana hahahahhahah!!!
_________________ Jedino oružje im je pero, ali su nepismeni.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:09 |
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https://www.wsj.com/world/how-the-israe ... a-6fe4710aCitat: How the Israel-Hamas War Is Tilting the Global Power Balance in Favor of Russia, China
DUBAI—The war between Israel and Hamas isn’t just risking a regional conflagration. It is also affecting the global balance of power, stretching American and European resources while relieving pressure on Russia and providing new opportunities to China.
The long-term effect of the Middle East flare-up is hard to predict. It depends, first of all, on whether Israel is ultimately successful in its stated goal of eliminating Hamas as Gaza’s main military and political force. Another critical issue is whether Israel’s diplomatic relationships in the region and the global standing of its Western supporters can survive the rising civilian casualties in Gaza and the looming horrors of urban warfare in the densely populated enclave.
But, for now, the war launched by Hamas on Oct. 7 with a brutal attack on Israeli towns and villages that killed some 1,400 people, mostly civilians, is proving a boon for America’s main geopolitical rivals. China, Russia and Iran have long sought to undermine the U.S.-backed international system and are now taking advantage of America’s distraction.
“What we are seeing is part of a shifting and moving world order,” said former Finnish Prime Minister Alexander Stubb, who is currently running for Finland’s presidency. “When the U.S. leaves power vacuums, someone is going to fill those vacuums.”
To be sure, the U.S. is already back in the Middle East, showcasing its role as the indispensable partner for Israel and key Arab nations with shuttle diplomacy and military deployments—an engagement that enjoys bipartisan support and dissipates some of the isolationist sentiment that has been gaining ground in recent years.
Still, as Washington’s attention focuses on the Middle East, Russia is probably the clearest beneficiary of the spreading upheaval. Pointing at the mounting Palestinian deaths—around 2,750 by the latest count—Moscow revels in what it calls the hypocrisy of the Western governments, which have roundly condemned Russian massacres of civilians in Ukraine but offer only mild, if any, criticism of Israeli actions in Gaza.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose forces, according to Ukrainian authorities, killed tens of thousands of civilians as they besieged the Ukrainian city of Mariupol for months last year, compared the Israeli siege of Gaza to that of his hometown St. Petersburg, then called Leningrad, during World War II. This, in essence, equated Israelis with Nazis. Such language, a stark departure from Putin’s once warm relationship with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is part of Russia’s diplomatic effort to position the country as the leader of the global movement against the West’s “neocolonialism,” even as it pursues a colonial war of conquest in Ukraine.
“Any conflict that draws some attention from Ukraine very much plays in favor of Russia,” said Lithuania’s Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis. “The Russians may not have started it, but they have a huge interest in prolonging the conflict in Israel as long as possible. It would be a win for the Russians tactically, in Ukraine, and strategically, strengthening their narrative against the Western world.”
China, too, has embraced the Palestinian cause in a way it hadn’t done in decades. Its once cordial ties with Israel are in tatters. Despite Beijing’s repeated invocations of the need to combat terrorism as it repressed Uyghurs in the Xinjiang region, China has pointedly refrained from using the word “terrorism” as it described the Hamas attack, much to Israel’s dismay—even though there were four Chinese citizens killed by Hamas and three more taken hostage, according to Israeli authorities.
“The crux of the matter is that justice has not been done to the Palestinian people,” China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Thursday, in his first public remarks since the Hamas invasion triggered the war.
As Beijing prepares for a possible clash with the U.S. over the future of Taiwan, China benefits from Washington’s attention once again being diverted by trouble in the Middle East, China watchers say.
“What matters to China are the interests of China and the most important thing for Beijing is the relationship with the United States, and the way in which China could weaken the United States and the image of the United States,” said Antoine Bondaz, a China expert at the Foundation for Strategic Research in Paris. “They will try to portray the U.S. as the factor of instability and China as a factor of peace. China’s goal is to present itself to the developing nations as an alternative—and as a more attractive alternative.”
The war launched by Hamas also deals a blow to China’s main Asian rival, India, which has grown much closer to Israel in recent years. Just in September, India and the U.S. announced plans for a transit corridor connecting India, the Middle East and Europe that would run through the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Israel, and become a rival to China’s Belt and Road project. But the talks on the normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia—a key element of the plan—have been scuttled by the Gaza war and their future is now uncertain.
“India has invested a lot in the Middle East generally, and especially with Israel and key Arab countries such as the U.A.E. and Saudi Arabia,” said Ashok Malik, chair of the India practice at the Asia Group and a former policy adviser to the Indian Foreign Ministry. “The normalization of relations between progressive Arab countries that are seeking to use economic and technological opportunities to modernize and Israel, as part of a broader normalization of the Middle East, is certainly something that India encourages—for business opportunities but also as a broader political construct.”
For many nations in Europe, in addition to straining regional relationships and diverting attention from Ukraine, an escalation of the war could also cause an energy crisis, potentially crippling the Middle Eastern alternatives to Russian oil and gas.
Bloodshed in the Middle East also carries the risk of renewed violence by Islamist militant groups at home, as happened during the campaign against Islamic State in 2014-17. Huge pro-Palestinian rallies have already flooded the streets of major European capitals over the weekend, with some protesters chanting in support of Hamas’s objective, the elimination of Israel.
“Whenever something this intense happens in the Gaza Strip or Israel, it has consequences in Europe,” said Thomas Gomart, director of the French Institute of International Relations. “What we are seeing now is the overlapping and entanglement of different theaters. What will be the main theater for Europe in the coming years? Will it be the Middle East? Will it be Ukraine? Caucasus? Issues with Iran? The acceleration of crises is spectacular and for Europe, it means having to make very brutal adjustments.”
Russia certainly counts on the West’s attention fading away from Ukraine, where Russian forces launched a so-far unsuccessful attempt to seize the city of Avdiivka shortly after the Hamas attack. Should the war in the Middle East expand to involve Lebanon and then possibly Iran and the U.S. directly, the already shrinking resources of military aid slated for Ukraine could become even scarcer—a danger acknowledged by Kyiv.
“If the conflict will be limited in time, a matter of weeks, then in principle we have nothing to worry about,” the head of Ukraine’s HUR military intelligence, Lt. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov, told the Ukrainska Pravda newspaper. “But if the situation drags on, it’s fully understandable that there will be certain problems with the fact that not only Ukraine will need to be supplied with weapons and ammunition.”
So far, little of the military aid rushed by the U.S. to Israel is of the kind that is needed for Ukraine. Israel’s most urgent request was for interceptors for its Iron Dome antimissile system that Ukraine doesn’t operate, while Ukraine’s key necessity is for 155mm artillery ammunition. Overall, Israel heavily relies on its huge air force, while air power plays a limited role in the war in Ukraine. During the 50-day Israeli incursion of Gaza in 2014, the Israeli army fired only 19,000 explosive 155mm shells, an amount that Ukraine consumes in as little as one week.
“The Israel Defense Force is very much a Western-style military, with air-based firepower, which can be handled more easily,” said Franz-Stefan Gady, CEO of Gady Consulting, a military consulting firm based in Vienna. “Meanwhile, the Ukrainian military remains a Soviet-era-legacy force with the majority of firepower that is ground-based, which is a lot harder for the U.S. to sustain.”
The biggest risk to Ukraine in recent weeks has been the reluctance of some Republicans in the House to authorize additional U.S. aid. The crisis in the Middle East could actually remove that roadblock as the Biden administration seeks to bundle military aid to Israel with aid to Ukraine.
“It is more likely now that we’re going to get a big funding package that includes Israel, which means that if you want to vote against Ukraine, you’ve got to vote against Israel too, and no one is willing to do that,” said Ivo Daalder, chief executive of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and a former U.S. ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Overall, he added, the U.S. should be able to support Israel and Ukraine, while also retaining its commitments to Taiwan. “We can walk and chew gum at the same time,” he said. “We have the capacity and we are the global power that can do all three.”
If anything, the crisis in the Middle East is also a reminder of how important America remains for the region and the world. China hailed its entry into regional politics in March as it brokered an agreement on restoring diplomatic relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran. But now, as the risks of a regional war increase, China is keeping a low profile—while the U.S. has rushed two aircraft carrier groups and Secretary of State Antony Blinken is flying around the region, aiming to contain the conflict.
“China’s primary leverage in the region was access to its markets, access to its investments. It is its economic power,” said Gordon Flake, CEO of the USAsia Center at the University of Western Australia. “They don’t yet have hard power in that region, and so no one is turning to the Chinese for how to solve their problems.”
_________________ Ta hercegovacka tragedija je bila prva vijest svih dnevnika u BIH (kod Senada prvih 15 minuta cak) a na HRTu 34 minuta. Ko tada nije razumio nikada nece.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:15 |
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:19 |
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Uz Njemicu ovo mi je najodvratniji video, ispred roditelja i djece ubili su curicu. Ovo je za sve one koji podržavaju Palestinu, Hamas ili tvrde kako treba pregovarati s njima
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:25 |
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Pridružen/a: 03 svi 2009, 22:39 Postovi: 59635 Lokacija: DAZP HQ
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nema milosti, to se mora rasturiti kao Sodomu i Gomoru, do temelja, a i ispod zemlje, zalijevat ih betonom.
_________________ "Hrvata je danas u BiH manje od 400.000, ali je naš cilj da nas je milijun", kazao je Čović.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:29 |
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Pridružen/a: 02 kol 2012, 11:47 Postovi: 39030 Lokacija: Ulica Nemanje Bilbije 99
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Hamas zasuo Tel Aviv raketama u vrijeme posjete Blinkena i američkih senatora, koje su to budaletine.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:34 |
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dudu je napisao/la: nema milosti, to se mora rasturiti kao Sodomu i Gomoru, do temelja, a i ispod zemlje, zalijevat ih betonom. Vrijeme milosti je bilo 7. listopada, sada će dobiti milosti koliko su je dali.
_________________ Ukidanjem BiH štedimo 50 milijardi KM. Neka razum prevlada.
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Sarajevo, generalno sarajevska kotlina je rasadnik zla i mržnje. Frustrirana, napaćena i bahata sredina.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:36 |
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dudu je napisao/la: nema milosti, to se mora rasturiti kao Sodomu i Gomoru, do temelja, a i ispod zemlje, zalijevat ih betonom. Sta se ceka, valja krenuti na Gazu dok na sjeveru zemlje brda imaju oči.
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:37 |
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Pridružen/a: 17 ožu 2021, 16:33 Postovi: 9993
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Naša Kvačica je napisao/la: dudu je napisao/la: nema milosti, to se mora rasturiti kao Sodomu i Gomoru, do temelja, a i ispod zemlje, zalijevat ih betonom. Vrijeme milosti je bilo 7. listopada, sada će dobiti milosti koliko su je dali. Ti si predviđao juče kopnenu ofanzivu. Šta bi s tim?
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 19:40 |
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Karabaja je napisao/la: Naša Kvačica je napisao/la: Vrijeme milosti je bilo 7. listopada, sada će dobiti milosti koliko su je dali.
Ti si predviđao juče kopnenu ofanzivu. Šta bi s tim? A kako bih ja to mogao znati, ne sjedim u zapovjedništvu IDF-a.
_________________ Ukidanjem BiH štedimo 50 milijardi KM. Neka razum prevlada.
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daramo je napisao/la: K..M je napisao/la: Ovi su gori i ludji od Rusa....borbeni poredak tko za paradu... Meni ovakva nonšalantnost IDF nije jasna. Nagusto nabijeni, opušteno. Ako ovi krenu dronovima odraće ih. Zar je moguće da nikakvu pouku nisu izvukli iz ukrajinskog konflikta jbt ??!! Mi, Srbi treba da dajemo potporu obema stranama, da rat STO DUZE TRAJE, da se Zapad zabavi svojemu jadu. A mi da svercamo streljivo, oruzje, tko nekoc Titek... Tako E, ... mi ćemo podržati sve strane u sukobu, a ako im treba oružje ili municija možemo im ponuditi širok asortiman robe solidnog kvaliteta i po pristupačnim cenama
Šta će biti, naoružanje za Ukrajinu i Izrael. Neki dan je odobren paket pomoći u vrijednosti dvije milijarde dolara. A RH će izvisit za podarak i sadaku.
_________________ Propast najdugovecnije imperije (1123 god), Istocno Rimskog carstva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVa6GQVSaj0
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Naslov: Re: Izrael Postano: 16 lis 2023, 20:03 |
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Karabaja je napisao/la: Naša Kvačica je napisao/la: Vrijeme milosti je bilo 7. listopada, sada će dobiti milosti koliko su je dali.
Ti si predviđao juče kopnenu ofanzivu. Šta bi s tim? Ako misliš da neće doći do kopnene ofenzive i da će izraelci odustati nakon mobilizacije 400k vojnika onda imaš iq bebe. To hoće li napasti danas ili prekosutra je totalno nebitno. Ja tvrdim da ne postoji vojska koja je sposobna uraditi ovo što su izraelci uradili, mobilizirati toliko ljudi i pripremiti čitavu tehniku i logistiku za kopnenu invaziju za manje od 10 dana. Rusima je trebalo 2-3 mjeseca da pripreme dvostruko manje ljudstva i tehnike za napad na ukrajinu.
_________________ 5. avgust 1995. - Dan ujedinjenja Srbijanaca i Srba iz regiona.
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K..M je napisao/la: 22 ili 23 drzave posjeduju Arapi....Zapad ih je podjelio, isparcelirao ravnalom i zakrvio. Ukljucujuci i mikro tko Lihtenstajn, Katar, Bahrein, Kuvajt, UAE... Ubacio im razne dinastije, nahuskao na nacionalizam i suverene krune, diktature vojne, politicku. A lord Rocild i lord Balfur 1917 na koncu I ww su zeleli KLIN, TRN, da se smije Arapima. Da im Kuran ukanale, jer se NE mogu globalno siriti ka Kalifatu, ako ima netka drzava nevjernika. Pruga Berlin-Bagdad i nepotopivi nosac zrakoplova i vrtoleta je Izrael, tko Krim...opasno bitne tocke za dominaciju. Zidovi su STRADALNI NAROD, sa tkim se povjest i GLOBALNI gospodari poigravaju za njine prljave rabote. Unistili su ih u Holokaustu, posle prikupili na GOMILI i zele ih opet skupa bar pola populacijzrtvovati. Da oni stvarno vladaju svijetom, NE bi se 100 g mrcvarili, ubijali, spavali sa strojnicama. Neki mali deo je elita, tkoja NE vlada, ali ispod tih zakulisanih obitelji provodi prljavu agendu i zrtvuje taj napaceni puk. Perzija se bori za dominaciju sa krezavom i nazadnom SA oko dominacije i vođstva nad muslimanskim življem. Imaju svoj šija polumjesec od Lebanona, preko Sirije, Iraka do Perzije...i dalje Jemen...Katar su valjda šije ali ih suni emir hebe.
_________________ Propast najdugovecnije imperije (1123 god), Istocno Rimskog carstva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVa6GQVSaj0
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Pridružen/a: 13 stu 2021, 23:58 Postovi: 6615 Lokacija: Nizza, Naissus...
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Niko Komadina je napisao/la: K..M je napisao/la: Ovi su gori i ludji od Rusa....borbeni poredak tko za paradu... Meni ovakva nonšalantnost IDF nije jasna. Nagusto nabijeni, opušteno. Ako ovi krenu dronovima odraće ih. Zar je moguće da nikakvu pouku nisu izvukli iz ukrajinskog konflikta jbt ??!! GPS i WiFi signali su blokirani ispred položaja IDF. Dronom u takvim uvjetima se ne može upravljati. Druge prijetnje za oklop nema, jer HAMAS nema topništvo, minobacači ne mogu napraviti štetu izraelskom teškom oklopu. Eventualno mogu nekim protuoklopnim raketama, ali to znači trenutnu smrt pod ruševinama. Deru ih hizbice iz Lebanona.
_________________ Propast najdugovecnije imperije (1123 god), Istocno Rimskog carstva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVa6GQVSaj0
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