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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 23 srp 2022, 19:34 |
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Pridružen/a: 01 ožu 2022, 11:15 Postovi: 1261
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Rusa se boj kad miruju, znači da spremaju nešto veliko, Ukrajinci misle da su okusili rat, tek sad će shvatiti da rata zapravo još nisu ni vidjeli, ni oni ni zapadne ******** pičke, tek će da upoznaju rusko oružje i ruske vojnike.
_________________ Работайте, братья!
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 23 srp 2022, 19:38 |
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Pridružen/a: 01 ožu 2022, 22:12 Postovi: 463
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Bome ovi Rusi previše miruju
_________________ Drugi profil Th1950 .
Bugojno ne vidimo Tuzla u daljini ali Rafal pogađa Hrvatski sine ne brini !
Hrvatsku granatu božja ruka vodi , tamo gdje je pošaljemo ona i pogodi !
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 23 srp 2022, 19:51 |
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Pridružen/a: 01 ožu 2022, 11:15 Postovi: 1261
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Još nešto, pojam veličine u Rusiji je drugačiji nego u ostatku svijeta, ono što je za većinu veliko, za Rusiju je pičkin dim. Rusija je zemlja gdje ni sunce nikad ne zalazi, a zapadne pičke toliko su prepotentne da misle da su vidjeli ruski ratni potencijal...
_________________ Работайте, братья!
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 23 srp 2022, 20:10 |
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Pridružen/a: 04 srp 2022, 07:35 Postovi: 1039
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Bobovac je napisao/la: Robbie MO je napisao/la: Siversk se već pola mjeseca brani. Kako se uzme. Tu je bilo borbi ukupno nekoliko dana. Pravi napad će uslijediti kad dođe profesionalna vojska sa godišnjeg odmora. Profesionalna vojska je većinom već potracana, misliš da će izaći iz groba?
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 23 srp 2022, 20:43 |
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Pridružen/a: 24 ruj 2009, 11:09 Postovi: 25546 Lokacija: Heartbreak Hotel
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neman je napisao/la: Bobovac je napisao/la:
Kako se uzme. Tu je bilo borbi ukupno nekoliko dana. Pravi napad će uslijediti kad dođe profesionalna vojska sa godišnjeg odmora.
Profesionalna vojska je većinom već potracana, misliš da će izaći iz groba? Naljepše molim bez navijačkih bedastoća. I u navijanju treba imati mjeru.
_________________ "Uzalud vam sav tisak i sve radio postaje, našim srcima nikad nećete ovladati", nadbiskup Alojzije Stepinac, Zagreb, 1942.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 23 srp 2022, 23:52 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108339 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Predvidivo. Kad ratuju za Amerikance i Twitter popularnost. Citat: Today in Ukraine they began to declare that there is no encirclement of the RF Armed Forces near Potemkino and Vysokopolye. This was forced to broadcast, including Arestovich, who launched this duck. Since their flock spent the whole day eating this informational manure from a shovel and demanding evidence of "encirclement", the topic became too toxic and today they began to merge it so that it would not work out like with the "attack on Kherson".
In practice. As it was mentioned yesterday, the attempts to "encircle" the RF Armed Forces near Vysokopolie ended with the fact that 2 battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that rushed to organize the "Vysokopolie Cannes" came under concentrated artillery fire of the RF Armed Forces, suffered heavy losses in killed and wounded and rolled back to the original ones. In Ukraine, they preferred to inform the audience about the beginning of the "offensive", and not about its outcome. Today I got a bad hangover.
_________________ Spetsnaz, a force for good.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 24 srp 2022, 00:22 |
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Pridružen/a: 19 stu 2010, 11:50 Postovi: 9957 Lokacija: Banja Luka
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Bobovac je napisao/la: neman je napisao/la: Profesionalna vojska je većinom već potracana, misliš da će izaći iz groba? Naljepše molim bez navijačkih bedastoća. I u navijanju treba imati mjeru. Mjeru ? To je onomad na fudbalskom SP u Brazilu očekivalo trofej Elem, tema... Nisam previše ''inovativan'' kad kažem da je u toku ključni i najteži dio ruske intervencije u Ukrajini . Otprilike , kao kad ribar izvlači velikog soma , nemoguće ga je izvući bez zamaranja . Sve dok se ne okrene na leđa i zabjelasa mu se stomak. Poslije sve ide lakše.
_________________ Sunce izlazi na Istoku . Ništa nije moćnije od ideje čije je vrijeme stiglo .
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 24 srp 2022, 00:44 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108339 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Stvaranje "građanske" Ukrajine. Za 30 godina im nije uspjelo kao ni muslimanima. Ne ide na silu. Životna pouka i jedina univerzalna istina. Ako hoćeš nešto takvo moraš se riješiti svog najvećeg neprijatelja, svog nacionalizma. (U primjeru muslimana iz Bosne i drugog neprijatelja, vjerskog fanatizma.) Pročitajte pozorno sve, nauči se dosta toga. Citat: Russian cities of Ukraine are waiting for the arrival of the Russian army
July 21, 2022, 16:05
The Kiev authorities are publicly perplexed - why the population of frontline zones is massively evading evacuation to the Ukrainian rear? There are suspicions that the inhabitants of Ukraine “somehow loyal to the enemy”, and threats against them. And in fact, the local population admits that they are waiting for the arrival of Russian troops. And this contributes, oddly enough, the Ukrainian government itself.
Some of the region’s residents “loyal to the enemy,” said Pavel Kirilenko, head of the Ukrainian Donetsk regional civil service administration on Wednesday. According to him, the rate of evacuation of the population from the region is low. Every day, 300-350 people can be taken out. In total, about 340 thousand residents remain in the part of the Donetsk region controlled by Kiev, Kirilenko said.
“Perhaps among those who do not want to go, some somehow loyally belong to the enemy, but believe me, we also deal with this and are engaged in law enforcement agencies. And the motives of some of them are also known to us, ”the governor threatened on the air of the All-Ukrainian telethon and announced in this regard“ more stringent and persistent measures ”.
The mayor of the Donetsk city of Kramatorsk, Alexander Goncharenko, reported that a week ago he launched an evacuation bus to the city of Pokrovsk, but there were few who wanted to. “There is no influx of people who begin to travel en masse,” said the mayor.
One of the subscribers Telegram -community “I love Kramatorsk”, without giving its name, describes the mood that reigns these days at the Kramatorsk city-forming enterprise Energomasspetsstal (EMSS). “The plant, of course, is now crushed and stolen. There, in the design bureau, pensioners are sitting behind old pot-bellied monitors.
But the plant is waiting for the Russians to come to Kramatorsk and transfer EMSS to the aid of the Russian army. Russian tanks will be repaired there - and that is bread.
For tanks to be repaired there, EMSS needs workers from residents of Kramatorsk, ”the city dweller writes. Another employee of the plant in the same public “I love Kramatorsk” directly writes: “There is no longer any Ukraine, and Kramatorsk and EMSS were, are and will be, the Russians will not do anything wrong to us.”.
Although the Kiev press regularly describes the “envelope of the invaders”, calling the Russian army nothing more than “Orcs”, the lion's share of the population of the Ukrainian part of Donbass still wants to wait for ours, said MIA observer “Russia Today”, director of the Center for Eurasian Studies Vladimir Kornilov. “Donbass, of course, remains on the side of Russia. This fact is recognized even by many Ukrainian officers and Western journalists. People are ready to take risks for a secure future. Many are sitting in basements, realizing that their houses will soon be in the battle zone. But they understand something else: if tomorrow they leave for the rear, for example, in Zaporozhye, then soon peace and tranquility will reign in their house. They cannot return through the front line. And then again you will have to retreat further to the west, it is not known where, being in refugee status, without shelter and at home, ”the expert explained.
“By the way, even Western media resources, which constantly conduct Russophobic propaganda, note such sentiments. The other day, a British newspaper published a story by a resident of Kramatorsk. The woman prepares to leave, but then promises to return - as soon as Kramatorsk is under Russian control, ”the political analyst emphasized.
In addition to Kirilenko, another Kiev governor in the region, the head of the military administration of the Lugansk region, Sergey Gaidai, previously complained about the reluctance of the residents of Donbass to leave. At the end of June, he even proposed to the Verkhovna Rada to introduce a law on forced deportation of the population from the war zone.
Kiev is distributing fairies on the Web about evacuation to the Donetsk People’s Republic in order to identify the disloyal inhabitants of Donbass, the headquarters of the territorial defense of the DPR said on Wednesday. “Ukrainian channels and public relations tables on social networks disseminate misinformation about urgent evacuation along humanitarian corridors in the DPR. The occupation authorities of Kiev announced the start of the collection of applications from the population about the desire to travel to the DPR. Thus, Ukrainian special services continue to collect detailed information about the local population that remained disloyal to Kiev, ”the headquarters quoted the message RIA Novosti. Earlier, the assistant to the Minister of Internal Affairs of the LPR Vitaly Kiselev said that the national police of Ukraine are trying by force take to the territory western regions of civilians from the frontline zone. “More than 80% of citizens say they do not want to leave their homes. People, in reality, cannot tell the truth and say that they are waiting for us, ”the assistant to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR explained.
The recently famous Ukrainian blogger, radical nationalist Kirill Sazonov, performed an interview on one of Kiev TV channels dedicated to the battles in Lisichansk and Donetsk. Sazonov indignantly said that the inhabitants of these cities did not want to leave, because they are "vata". If people for 30 years of independence have not been inspired by love for Ukraine, it is useless to talk with them, the blogger complained.
The search for the “fifth column” was taken by the Ukrainian authorities at the other end of the front line. The head of the Nikolaev region, Vitaly Kim, on the eve warned that Nikolaev would be closed for several days for a raid on citizens supporting Russia. According to Kim, "candidate hour, development activities are planned.". The city “will be closed for several days”, “they will go home and work out bad people,” the publication “Country.ua” quotes the governor.
“I can say with confidence that Nikolaev was and remains a Russian city. A large number of people are waiting for the Russian army, ”said Larisa Shesler, chairman of the Union of Political Migrants and Political Prisoners of Ukraine, former deputy of the Nikolaev Regional Council Larisa Shesler, on this occasion to the newspaper VZGLYAD. - In Nikolaev arrested big the number of people whose whole fault is that they expressed their benevolent attitude towards Russia. ”.
“However, those who want to evacuate from Donbass or Nikolaev have a lot of problems,” she adds. - The Kiev authorities may be able to organize transport, but they do it extremely rarely. And most importantly, they do not provide housing and benefits for living in the western regions of Ukraine. If earlier refugees were placed in schools and other social facilities, now they are already being kicked out of there. Therefore, people who leave understand that they will remain homeless. ”.
According to human rights defenders, the Kiev government is not responsible for its citizens. “For several months of hostilities, people have already been able to see this, see it with their own eyes, hear from relatives and acquaintances. Today, only very wealthy people leave the frontline zone, or those who, for ideological reasons, warmly support the Kiev government, ”Shesler concluded.
Refugees in the deep Ukrainian rear do not expect anything good reminds on his VKontakte page, ex-deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Alexei Zhuravko, who lives in Kherson. He talks about the misadventures of his two friends in the territory controlled by the Armed Forces. The Khersonist Peter, who left for Nikolaev, is hiding from mobilization in rented apartments, and at the same time cannot find work. “There is nothing to feed children. I can’t find work. Because I'm of draft age. I don’t want to fight, since this war is not ours. Already received two summons from the military enlistment office, ”Zit Zhuravko quotes a friend. Now, according to the ex-deputy, his friend is afraid to get into the SBU during the raids promised by Governor Kim. Another friend Zhuravko, a Kiev citizen Konstantin sent his family to Western Ukraine, and he remained in the capital. However, the city is now in high crime rates, and Konstantin recently became a victim of a robbery. He took the car, money and was beaten.
By information EADaily news agency, more than 20 thousand refugees from the east are homeless in the Lviv region. The city hall in this regard is seeking additional funding from the government in Kiev - to organize new temporary accommodation centers in schools, kindergartens and other state institutions.
Earlier, Vladimir Kornilov noted that the evacuees from Donbass in Western Ukraine have numerous conflicts with local residents. The reason for the conflict is the fact that residents of the eastern regions do not know the Ukrainian language and speak Russian at home.
_________________ Spetsnaz, a force for good.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 24 srp 2022, 10:27 |
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_________________ Može se očekivati da će takva odluka rasplamsati nacionalističke, protuzapadne i militarističke tendencije u ruskom mišljenju..." https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/05/opinion/a-fateful-error.html
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 24 srp 2022, 23:46 |
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Pridružen/a: 20 sij 2012, 13:49 Postovi: 8358 Lokacija: Usa
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Front Svetlodarsk, regija DPR Donbass 25.06.2022 00:30 MSK - Višestruka izvješća da su elektranu Uglegorskaya TES, N iz Svetlodarska napali i zauzeli snage DPR-a i naoružana četa PMC Wagner, čisteći područje. AFU je započeo povlačenje s položaja u selu Semigorye.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 13:41 |
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 18:54 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108339 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Kijev morao priznati da su izgubili taj grad (3700). I na drugom mjestu jednu od najvećih elekttrana (ugalj mislim) za električnu energiju u Europi.
_________________ Spetsnaz, a force for good.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 18:55 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108339 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Prestanite sa tim "Wagner" glupostima. Oni ne pokazuju lica na snimkama i slikama, kao i Spetsnaz.
_________________ Spetsnaz, a force for good.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 19:11 |
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Pridružen/a: 09 tra 2017, 22:00 Postovi: 3107
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Ovaj jadni ruski napredak na istoku me podsjeca na srpsko osvajanje paulin dvora i laslova mjesec dana nakon pada Vukovara 1991. Totalno nebitni i tromi takticki pomaci koji samo govore o tome da su se rusi ispuhali.
_________________ 5. avgust 1995. - Dan ujedinjenja Srbijanaca i Srba iz regiona.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 19:20 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108339 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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Gdje ti se žuri. Kao da mrziš Ukrajince.
_________________ Spetsnaz, a force for good.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 19:23 |
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Pridružen/a: 09 tra 2017, 22:00 Postovi: 3107
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Da da polako ce rusi to sve osvojit kroz 50 godina ako treba, a ukrajinci ce stajat prekrizenih ruku. Kao da srbe slusam.
_________________ 5. avgust 1995. - Dan ujedinjenja Srbijanaca i Srba iz regiona.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 19:28 |
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Pridružen/a: 05 lis 2010, 12:48 Postovi: 108339 Lokacija: Županija Herceg-Bosna
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OK, javi nam kad Ukrajinci vrate izgubljeno.
_________________ Spetsnaz, a force for good.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 21:03 |
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Primarijus je napisao/la: Ovaj jadni ruski napredak na istoku me podsjeca na srpsko osvajanje paulin dvora i laslova mjesec dana nakon pada Vukovara 1991. Totalno nebitni i tromi takticki pomaci koji samo govore o tome da su se rusi ispuhali. čak i da je to točno (a nije), Ukrajinci svoju Oluju i Bljesk neće dočekati nikad. previše je razlika, ne da mi s eponavljat. Rellnije je da će rusi opet imati novu ofenzivu, pa opet, pa opet, i kroz 4-5 godina slomiti sve. p.s. od početka rta Ukrjinu je napustilo 5,75 mlijuna ljudi koji se nisu vratili
_________________ Čuvajte nacionalnu homogenost ko zjenicu oka svoga!
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 21:11 |
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Pridružen/a: 11 vel 2012, 13:30 Postovi: 12878
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Ukrajina igra na žici i malo toga zavisi od vlasti u Kijevu.
Ako sa jedne strane Zapad odluči da je potrebno ili isplativije preseći pomoć, Ukrajina pada automatski. Ako sa druge strane Moskva odluči da je potrebno ili isplativije upotrebiti pune kapacitete ruske vojne moći, Ukrajina pada automatski.
Znači kijevski režim se drži dok dobija neograničenu finansijsku i vojnu pomoć sa jedne strane i dok su Rusi angažovani u ovom veoma ograničenom obimu. A čak i tako je potrebno konstantno ubacivati sveže meso na front. Krajnje neprijatna situacija.
Posebno kad krenu jesen i zima.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 21:13 |
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Pridružen/a: 11 tra 2016, 17:17 Postovi: 7751 Lokacija: Сарај Чадор
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Baćuške su zaglavili i nema dalje. Ne mogu meda. Sva doktrina im se svodi na rokanje neselektivno artiljerijom.
Sva šuplja o operativnim pauzama i reorganizaciji je upravo to, šuplja. Istina je gore spomenuto. Izlapili su.
_________________ Skidanje okova je imperativ.
Takozvana "rs" je genocidna tvorevina.
The so-called "republic of srpska" is a genocidal ramshackle pseudo-state.
Ko je zrinyia na sigetu posjek'o..
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 21:23 |
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Pridružen/a: 02 stu 2018, 14:21 Postovi: 3764
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Jagnjeca brigada je napisao/la: Ukrajina igra na žici i malo toga zavisi od vlasti u Kijevu.
Ako sa jedne strane Zapad odluči da je potrebno ili isplativije preseći pomoć, Ukrajina pada automatski. Ako sa druge strane Moskva odluči da je potrebno ili isplativije upotrebiti pune kapacitete ruske vojne moći, Ukrajina pada automatski.
Znači kijevski režim se drži dok dobija neograničenu finansijsku i vojnu pomoć sa jedne strane i dok su Rusi angažovani u ovom veoma ograničenom obimu. A čak i tako je potrebno konstantno ubacivati sveže meso na front. Krajnje neprijatna situacija.
Posebno kad krenu jesen i zima. Ratove u pravilu dobivaju oni koji ne kalkuliraju, a Rusi sa svojom pišiću-kakiću strategijom ne mogu dobiti rat. Ako misle dobiti rat moraju još angažirati na stotine tisuća vojnika, jer će morati osvojiti CIJELU Ukrajinu ako misle dobiti rat jer Kijev NIKAD neće pristati na bilo kakav kompromis i priznati gubitak teritorija.
_________________ Slava Ukrajini!
Nema predaje!
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 21:27 |
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od Iranaca kupljeno ovo broj nepoznat, ali cuce se
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Amiđa je napisao/la: Baćuške su zaglavili i nema dalje. Ne mogu meda. Sva doktrina im se svodi na rokanje neselektivno artiljerijom.
Sva šuplja o operativnim pauzama i reorganizaciji je upravo to, šuplja. Istina je gore spomenuto. Izlapili su. i meni miriši na to, ne vidim tu neki faktor iznenađenja, samo gomilanje snaga eventualno.
_________________ "Hrvata je danas u BiH manje od 400.000, ali je naš cilj da nas je milijun", kazao je Čović.
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Naslov: Re: Rat u Ukrajini - vojni aspekt Postano: 25 srp 2022, 21:40 |
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Dutch01 je napisao/la: Ratove u pravilu dobivaju oni koji ne kalkuliraju, a Rusi sa svojom pišiću-kakiću strategijom ne mogu dobiti rat. Ako misle dobiti rat moraju još angažirati na stotine tisuća vojnika, jer će morati osvojiti CIJELU Ukrajinu ako misle dobiti rat jer Kijev NIKAD neće pristati na bilo kakav kompromis i priznati gubitak teritorija. Moguće da si u pravu. Ratove uglavnom dobijaju oni koji ne kalkulišu. Sa tim delom se slažem. No, mislim da Rusi ne mogu da si priušte da budu poraženi u ovom ratu i da će ga na ovaj ili onaj način terati do momenta koji makar minimalno zadovoljava njihove ciljeve. Oko drugog dela se ne slažem, Kijev može i ne mora pristati, to neće igrati neku presudnu ulogu.
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