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 Naslov: Croatia and modern-day Bosnia?!
PostPostano: 03 ruj 2013, 10:35 
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Im very interested in Croatian history and I have a few question for you that I can't find the answar to.
I did not hear or get familiar with the term Herceg-Bosna until recently.
The Herceg-Bosna, is that made up from only Croats, that live in modern-day Bosnia?
What is your goal? Do you want to break free from Bosnia, and conect do the Dalmatian part of Croatia?
Or do you look at yourself as a different ethnicity than Croat?
Do you want your own seperate country from Croatia and Bosnia?

The way I see it, Croatia have historical claim on MOST of modern day Bosnia, because since the begining, it was only populated by slavs, (either Serbian or Croatian) and lived there peacfully for hundreads of years! Wasn't most of modern-day bosnian territory under Croatian rule, and the rest was under Serbian?
It lived a big majority og Slavs there all the way until the 16th centuary when the Ottoman Empire invaded Balkan and started killing and/or raping Croatian and Serbian women so that modern-day Bosnia became populated by many "Bosnians" (Croats/Serbs mixed with black muslims)
Is this wrong? This is what I understood from the information I read about history. I just want to check with you.


Do you have a map/maps about the territory you want do be a part of Croatia?
I hop you can help me with these questions, I just became a member and will start reading threads and information on this site!

:herceg_bosna :HercegBosanac


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 Naslov: Re: Croatia and modern-day Bosnia?!
PostPostano: 03 ruj 2013, 11:47 
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Pridružen/a: 03 svi 2009, 09:25
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Herceg-Bosna or Herzeg-Bosnia is an archaic name for Bosnia and Herzegovina, since adopted by the Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

It generally refers to the Croatian Community of Herzeg-Bosnia and the Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia, wartime structures, incorporated into the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina (previously called the Bosniak-Croat Federation).

The Croat goal is equality in B&H with the other 2 constituent peoples - whether that ends up being institutional or territorial, we'll see.

No one seriously believes that borders in the Balkans will change in the near future.

Only a small minority of people living in Bosnia and Herzegovina are actually descendants of those that lived here before the Ottoman invasion.

I won't get into history as everyone has their nationalist version (some crazier and more daring than others).

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 Naslov: Re: Croatia and modern-day Bosnia?!
PostPostano: 03 ruj 2013, 21:01 
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Pridružen/a: 28 kol 2013, 23:27
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Im very interested in Croatian history and I have a few question for you that I can't find the answar to.
I did not hear or get familiar with the term Herceg-Bosna until recently.
The Herceg-Bosna, is that made up from only Croats, that live in modern-day Bosnia?
What is your goal? Do you want to break free from Bosnia, and conect do the Dalmatian part of Croatia?
Or do you look at yourself as a different ethnicity than Croat?
Do you want your own seperate country from Croatia and Bosnia?

The way I see it, Croatia have historical claim on MOST of modern day Bosnia, because since the begining, it was only populated by slavs, (either Serbian or Croatian) and lived there peacfully for hundreads of years! Wasn't most of modern-day bosnian territory under Croatian rule, and the rest was under Serbian?
It lived a big majority og Slavs there all the way until the 16th centuary when the Ottoman Empire invaded Balkan and started killing and/or raping Croatian and Serbian women so that modern-day Bosnia became populated by many "Bosnians" (Croats/Serbs mixed with black muslims)
Is this wrong? This is what I understood from the information I read about history. I just want to check with you.


Do you have a map/maps about the territory you want do be a part of Croatia?
I hop you can help me with these questions, I just became a member and will start reading threads and information on this site!

:herceg_bosna :HercegBosanac




Who do you refer to as "black muslims"? Muslims of African descent? They aren't that numerous in Bosnia.


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 Naslov: Re: Croatia and modern-day Bosnia?!
PostPostano: 03 ruj 2013, 21:36 
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Pridružen/a: 03 ruj 2013, 10:24
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HrvatMarkota je napisao/la:
Im very interested in Croatian history and I have a few question for you that I can't find the answar to.
I did not hear or get familiar with the term Herceg-Bosna until recently.
The Herceg-Bosna, is that made up from only Croats, that live in modern-day Bosnia?
What is your goal? Do you want to break free from Bosnia, and conect do the Dalmatian part of Croatia?
Or do you look at yourself as a different ethnicity than Croat?
Do you want your own seperate country from Croatia and Bosnia?

The way I see it, Croatia have historical claim on MOST of modern day Bosnia, because since the begining, it was only populated by slavs, (either Serbian or Croatian) and lived there peacfully for hundreads of years! Wasn't most of modern-day bosnian territory under Croatian rule, and the rest was under Serbian?
It lived a big majority og Slavs there all the way until the 16th centuary when the Ottoman Empire invaded Balkan and started killing and/or raping Croatian and Serbian women so that modern-day Bosnia became populated by many "Bosnians" (Croats/Serbs mixed with black muslims)
Is this wrong? This is what I understood from the information I read about history. I just want to check with you.


Do you have a map/maps about the territory you want do be a part of Croatia?
I hop you can help me with these questions, I just became a member and will start reading threads and information on this site!

:herceg_bosna :HercegBosanac




Who do you refer to as "black muslims"? Muslims of African descent? They aren't that numerous in Bosnia.



I mean that Serbians and Croats where raped and therefore mixed with Turkish people (who I call black muslims)


And also, Croatia can claim bigger part than Herceg-Bosna, because big parts of modern-day Bosnia were under Croatian rule in the middle ages and medievel times.
There are much more proof of catholic existense in Bosnia, then there is of Orthodox, so most likely it lived Croats there, not many serbians


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 Naslov: Re: Croatia and modern-day Bosnia?!
PostPostano: 10 ruj 2013, 10:51 
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Pridružen/a: 03 ruj 2013, 10:24
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Any more insight?
I am interessted in knowing more of what your main goal is

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 Naslov: Re: Croatia and modern-day Bosnia?!
PostPostano: 10 ruj 2013, 21:27 
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Pridružen/a: 18 kol 2009, 17:38
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I agree with what Ministry of Sound said regarding more rights of Croats in Bosnia and Herzegovina. How that shapes up, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

One are we have talked about is the formation of a third or Croatian entity within the borders of Bosnia and Herzegovina. There are a number of discussions on that topic here on the forum, but we have one in English that might be easier for you to follow: english/the-croatian-entity-t4470.html


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