Može mi netko objasniti kako to da su Srbi uzeli enklavu Žepa nekoliko dana poslije Srebrenice pa nisu ubili muškarce ?

Ima li to veze sa pizdarijama koje su radili Naser Orić i njegovi oko Srebrenice ?
Dok su ovi u Žepi bili normalni Bošnjaci.

Nema to veze sa bilo čijim medijima, to su facts. I potrebno je dati odgovor na to.

- Srebrenica pada, muškarci pobijeni
- Žepa pada nekoliko dana poslije, muškarci pušteni za Tuzlu.
- Obje bile UN zaštićene enklave sa muslimanima.

Ovo traži odgovore.

Cifra nije bitna. Sad se baviš kalkulacijama kao Srbi za Bošnjake. Nebitno koliko ih je pobijeno. Bitnije je na koji način su pobijeni i kakav efekt i želju za osvetom to ostavi na ljudima.

Metak u potiljak nije isto kao kad obitelj nađe tijelo bez očiju, ušiju i odrezane glave. Samo primjer.

According to Human Rights Watch, the ultra-nationalist Serbian Radical Party "launched an aggressive campaign to prove that Muslims had committed crimes against thousands of Serbs in the area" which "was intended to diminish the significance of the July 1995 crime."[9] A press briefing by the ICTY Office of the Prosecutor (OTP) dated 6 July 2005 noted that the number of Serb deaths in the region alleged by the Serbian authorities had increased from 1,400 to 3,500, a figure the OTP stated "[does] not reflect the reality."[10]

The briefing cited previous accounts:

The Republika Srpska's Commission for War Crimes gave the number of Serb victims in the municipalities of Bratunac, Srebrenica and Skelani as 995; 520 in Bratunac and 475 in Srebrenica.

The Chronicle of Our Graves by Milivoje Ivanisevic, president of the Belgrade Center for Investigating Crimes Committed against the Serbs, estimates the number of people killed at around 1,200.

For the Honorable Cross and Golden Freedom, a book published by the RS Ministry of Interior, referred to 641 Serb victims in the Bratunac-Srebrenica-Skelani region.

The accuracy of these numbers is challenged: the OTP noted that although Ivanisevic's book estimated that around 1200 Serbs were killed, personal details were only available for 624 victims.[10] The validity of labeling some of the casualties as "victims" is also contested:[10] studies have found a significant majority of military casualties compared to civilian casualties.[11] This is in line with the nature of the conflict—Serb casualties died in raids by Bosniak forces on outlying villages used as military outposts for attacks on Srebrenica[12] (many of which had been ethnically cleansed of their Bosniak majority population in 1992).[13]

For example the village of Kravica was attacked by Bosniak forces on Orthodox Christmas Day, 7 January 1993. Some Serb sources such as Ivanisevic allege that the village's 353 inhabitants were "virtually completely destroyed".[10] In fact, the VRS' own internal records state that 46 Serbs died in the Kravica attack: 35 soldiers and 11 civilians.[14] while the ICTY Prosecutor's Office's investigation of casualties on 7 and 8 January in Kravica and the surrounding villages found that 43 people were killed, of whom 13 were obviously civilians.[15] Nevertheless the event continues to be cited by Serb sources as the key example of heinous crimes committed by Bosniak forces around Srebrenica.[9] As for the destruction and casualties in the villages of Kravica, Siljkovići, Bjelovac, Fakovići and Sikirić, the judgment states that the prosecution failed to present convincing evidence that the Bosnian forces were responsible for them, because the Serb forces used artillery in the fighting in those villages. In the case of the village of Bjelovac, Serbs even used the warplanes.[8]

The most up-to-date analysis of Serb casualties in the region comes from the Sarajevo-based Research and Documentation Center, a non-partisan institution with a multiethnic staff, whose data have been collected, processed, checked, compared and evaluated by international team of experts.[16][11][17] The RDC's extensive review of casualty data found that Serb casualties in the Bratunac municipality amounted to 119 civilians and 424 soldiers. It also established that although the 383 Serb victims buried in the Bratunac military cemetery are presented as casualties of ARBiH units from Srebrenica, 139 (more than one third of the total) had fought and died elsewhere in Bosnia and Herzegovina.[11]

Cuj provokatori. To su bili legalni i legitimni branitelji opcine koja je 1991. godine imala 75-postotnu bosnjacku vecinu.

Cuj provokatori. To su bili legalni i legitimni branitelji opcine koja je 1991. godine imala 75-postotnu bosnjacku vecinu.

Ne, bili su vrlo ilegalni. Jer po UN rezoluciji su trebali biti razoružani.

Može mi netko objasniti kako to da su Srbi uzeli enklavu Žepa nekoliko dana poslije Srebrenice pa nisu ubili muškarce ?

Ima li to veze sa pizdarijama koje su radili Naser Orić i njegovi oko Srebrenice ?
Dok su ovi u Žepi bili normalni Bošnjaci.

Vjerovatno ima sa razmišljanjem da nisu smjeli sebi priuštiti to. Zamisli da su na par mjesta imali isti scenarij kao u Srebrenici, šta bi to donijelo njima.

Ne drži logiku. Jer dok su uzeli Žepu još uvijek su ubijali muškarce u Srebrenici. Potrajalo je to dugo.

Nebitno. Tim bi im bilo lakše pobiti to muškaraca u Žepi, manje ih. Ali nisu.

Ne drži logiku. Jer dok su uzeli Žepu još uvijek su ubijali muškarce u Srebrenici. Potrajalo je to dugo.

Oric and the Muslim forces - numbering between 4,000 and 6,000 men in three "brigades" - of which 30 to 50 percent were armed - ignored the Serb build-up and began their own reign of terror against Serb military and civilian occupants outside the towns of Bratunac, Skelani and Milici. The Muslims systemically raided Serb villages, killing their defenders and making off with their weapons and the villagers food. A Muslim batallion commander later stated:

"We were not ready for war. We had to attack to get arms and ammunition. We attacked south because the Serbs were weak there; they did not think we would dare to attack towards Serbia. Another important factor was food. We had to obtain food. We had many refugees from Zvornik, Bratunac, Rogatica and Han Pijesak...And anyway we simply wanted to liberate as much as possible of the Srebrenica municipality."

This raiding continued through June, July and August, as the Muslims looted and razed Serb villages and expanded their areas of control. Chuck Sudetic observed that Oric's combat troops were now being followed by a band of desperate civilians:

"Oric could now count on a force that struck the fear of God into the Serb peasants...a horde of Muslim refugees, men and women, young and old, who were driven by hunger and, in many cases, a thirst for revenge. Thousands strong, these people would lurk behind the first wave of attacking soldiers and run amok when the defenses around Serb villages collapsed. Some...used pistols to do the killing; others used knives, bats and hatchets. But most...had nothing but their bare hands and the empty rucksacks and suitcases they strapped on their backs. They came to be known as torbari, the bag people. And they were beyond Oric's control."

The Serbs were now tasting a particularly nasty version of their own medicine.

On 26 September Oric's men scored one of their biggest victories when they hit the village of Podravanje and the nearby hamlets, some 15 to 20 kilometres southeast of Milici, near the Srebrenica bauxite mines. At least 27 VRS soldiers were killed - early Serb reports claimed as many as 50 had died - and the territory gained allowed the Srebrenica fighters to link up with Avdo Palic's brigade in Zepa. The Muslims treated the Serbs - soldiers and civilians alike - with no quarter. Sudetic writes:

"The Serb fighters left behind men and women who had been wounded and killed...Then the torbari rushed in. Muslim men shot the wounded. They fired their guns into the bodies of the Serb dead, plunged knives into their stomachs and chests. They smashed their heads with axes and clubs, and they burned the bodies inside the buildings. Oric's men grabbed half a dozen prisoners; one, a fighter from Serbia who had relatives in Podravanje, was beaten to death, and the others emerged bruised and battered when they were exchanged a month later."

The Muslim attacks continued into October, as several villages 10 to 15 kilometres north of Skelani, right on the Drina River border with Serbia, were burned. In mid-December, more villages, about 10 kilometres southeast of Bratunac, were attacked and more than 50 Serbs killed. The VRS 1st Bratunac Light Infantry Brigade and the Skelani Batallion were powerless to stop Oric.

Oric was now ready for his next objective: to link up with the Cerska-Kamenica enclave to the northwest and overrun the entire Bratunac-Skelani area, pushing right to the Serbian border. This offensive, which kicked off successfully on 24 December, was to be his last campaign, however. Instead of final victory it would bring down the wrath of General Ratko Mladic, the VRS, and the Yugoslav Army.

A dobro. Moje je mišljenje da vas je Naser Orić dobro zajebao za Srebrenicu. Ostaje za povijesničare da utvrde je li ga Alija poslao da isprovocira osvetu.

Ako ne postoji ni 1% šanse za vojnu pobjedu, onda i ne provociraš. Jednostavno i jasno.

Ekvivalent onoga što je Naser Orić sa svojima tamo radio je isto kao da danas Hrvati koji su ostali u Sarajevu za treći entitet noću ubijaju Bošnjake u mračnim ulicama.