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Kada će Kina napasti Tajvan
2022-2023 9%  9%  [ 6 ]
2024-2026 11%  11%  [ 7 ]
2027-2030 12%  12%  [ 8 ]
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 Naslov: Re: Kinesko-tajvanski rat (Kineska invazija na Tajvan)
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Braca Kinezi produzili ove vezbe okolo Tajvana na "neodredjeno". Tajvanski ministar spoljnih poslova govori kako je siguran da se Kina sprema za invaziju. Unisti ih baba.


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Ali nek se ne brinu Tajvanci, Hamerikanci kazu kako su sigurni da Kina nema planove napasti u narednih 2 godine. =))


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Poprilicno je objektivan video, iako ima gresaka, Kina je vec usla u "tajvanske teritorijalne vode" sa brodovima, a pomorska blokada se vec desila i zaustavila. To je samo opomena i vezba za ubuduce.


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These unprecedented exercises serve at least four main objectives. First, they are intended to impose political costs on Taipei and undermine morale and support for Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen among Taiwan’s public. Part of this involves making clear that Taiwan will bear the brunt of Chinese punishment for closer relations with the United States. Beijing hopes that this will drive a wedge between Taipei and Washington.

Second, these exercises are part of larger Chinese deterrence and signaling efforts toward the United States, Taiwan, U.S. regional allies, and the broader international community to demonstrate how capable and determined China is to exert control over Taiwan and enforce its One China Principle. The exercises involve direct costs for Japan, and to some extent the Philippines, because of PLA operations (and firing of missiles) within both countries’ claimed waters. PLA activities are also meant to deter countries from supporting Taiwan by showcasing how much China is willing to escalate. More broadly, the PLA exercise led to rerouting of commercial air and maritime traffic around Taiwan to avoid the exercise zones, demonstrating China’s ability to “control” activities near and around Taiwan.

Third, these exercises allow the PLA to rehearse how to conduct a variety of military operations that could form part of a larger-scale military operation - such as seizing one of Taiwan’s offshore islands or PLA blockade or invasion of the main Taiwan island - or a standalone operation by itself. This includes not only activities directed at Taiwan, but operations to prevent potential third country intervention in a China-Taiwan conflict.

Fourth, and longer term, Beijing aims to use the exercises to establish a new status quo in the Taiwan Strait. China is specifically seeking to erase the notion of the median line that divides the strait and aims to constrain PLA operations west of the line. China also seeks to establish a new normal in which the PLA no longer respects Taiwan’s claims to a separate airspace and territorial waters. These exercises are likely only the beginning of PLA operations close to and above Taiwan.


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 Naslov: Re: Kinesko-tajvanski rat (Kineska invazija na Tajvan)
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Evo koliko su bili blizu ostrva, Tajvanci lazu da im nisu usli u "teritorijalne vode". Lazu ko Zelenski. :smijeh

https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=174051 ... der&for=pc


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https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=174073 ... der&for=pc

https://m.thepaper.cn/baijiahao_19354765


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Sve je objasnjeno o vezbama i sa dokazima, kako su uslu u "tajvanske teritorijalne" vode, i jos mnogo toga, samo prevedite stranicu kad otvorite.


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Zaista prelepo, kineski vojnik a u pozadini se vide Tajvanska brda, :wub


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Inace Tajvanci govore kako im je 12 kilometara "teritorijalne vode", a ovo je slikano 11.78km. :D


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Ne da su to "tajvanske teritorijalne vode", nego je ceo Tajvanski Moreuz od pre par dana kineske-komunisticke teritorijalne vode. Jer onaj koji konstantno izvodi vojne vezbe, sada na neodredjeno, njegovo je.


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The distance of 11.78 kilometers means that our warships entered the "12 nautical miles" range of Taiwan Island, which the Taiwan authorities are very concerned about. The Taiwan authorities have always described this distance as the width of the so-called "territorial waters" of Taiwan. On the 3rd, Taiwanese media TVBS reported that the PLA's exercise areas demarcated off Keelung and Kaohsiung were less than 10 nautical miles from Taiwan Island, "that is to say, it may step into Taiwan's 'territorial waters'." In this regard, Taiwan's defense department said that "it will strengthen its alertness, and although it will not seek war, it will not avoid it."

"The successful holding of the exercise is to tell the 'Taiwan independence' forces and external interfering forces led by the United States that Taiwan Island is an inalienable part of China, and there is no so-called 'territorial sea' and 'airspace' by the Taiwan authorities. We can go to these places if we want. , and it will be normalized in the future." Military expert Song Zhongping said in an interview on the 6th that the Taiwan Army has made it clear that it "doesn't seek war", because if it seeks war, it is a dead end. "We entered 12 nautical miles, and they were indifferent. This shows that they don't dare to fight, because once the fire is exchanged, they will only make themselves more unlucky."

Song Zhongping pointed out that the Taiwan military will definitely feel apprehensive. If a military conflict breaks out with the People's Liberation Army, this exercise may be directly transformed into a military action, and the process of resolving the Taiwan issue will be greatly advanced. Therefore, the Taiwan authorities, including the Taiwan military, dare not provoke, all they can do is the so-called "watching".



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 Naslov: Re: Kinesko-tajvanski rat (Kineska invazija na Tajvan)
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Pretpostavljam 12 milja a ne kilometara.

Kinezi tako se mogu primicati sve bliže i bliže.

Praktički, Tajvan ih mora napasti.

A ako ne napadne, onda to sve bliže i bliže može završiti iskrcavanjem na plažu i šetanjem po plaži. :zubati

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Da, 12 milja, prevod nije dobar, ali to je udaljenost ne znam ko od Batajnice do Beograda. Evo ovde je objasnjeno zasto Tajvanci nisu odgovorili. :zubati


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The distance of 11.78 kilometers means that our warships entered the "12 nautical miles" range of Taiwan Island, which the Taiwan authorities are very concerned about. The Taiwan authorities have always described this distance as the width of the so-called "territorial waters" of Taiwan. On the 3rd, Taiwanese media TVBS reported that the PLA's exercise areas demarcated off Keelung and Kaohsiung were less than 10 nautical miles from Taiwan Island, "that is to say, it may step into Taiwan's 'territorial waters'." In this regard, Taiwan's defense department said that "it will strengthen its alertness, and although it will not seek war, it will not avoid it."

"The successful holding of the exercise is to tell the 'Taiwan independence' forces and external interfering forces led by the United States that Taiwan Island is an inalienable part of China, and there is no so-called 'territorial sea' and 'airspace' by the Taiwan authorities. We can go to these places if we want. , and it will be normalized in the future." Military expert Song Zhongping said in an interview on the 6th that the Taiwan Army has made it clear that it "doesn't seek war", because if it seeks war, it is a dead end. "We entered 12 nautical miles, and they were indifferent. This shows that they don't dare to fight, because once the fire is exchanged, they will only make themselves more unlucky."

Song Zhongping pointed out that the Taiwan military will definitely feel apprehensive. If a military conflict breaks out with the People's Liberation Army, this exercise may be directly transformed into a military action, and the process of resolving the Taiwan issue will be greatly advanced. Therefore, the Taiwan authorities, including the Taiwan military, dare not provoke, all they can do is the so-called "watching".



https://m.thepaper.cn/baijiahao_19354765


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Evo jos slika da su usli u tih 12 milja, koje Tajvan kao svojata, vidi se taj beli svetionik, ovo kao ja Dunavom kada prolazim pored BG (karikiram), tolka udaljenost. :zubati



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On August 5, more than 10 destroyers and escorts conducted actual combat drills in the waters around Taiwan Island.

This is a picture of officers and soldiers of a naval ship in the Eastern Theater Command observing and looking out in the waters around Taiwan Island. On this map, the coastline of Taiwan Island and the mountains on the island are clearly visible.

Authoritative military experts told Tan Zhu that the People's Navy ships are generally not so close to the coastline of Taiwan Island, and this time is a breakthrough.

The presence of the People's Navy here sends a signal:

There is no so-called "Taiwan's territorial waters", Taiwan is part of China, and the Chinese navy sails in its own territorial waters.


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Evo slikali Kinezi sa cime su Tajvanci izasli pred njih, neke Americke donirane krntije stare 30 godina. :smijeh


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The delineation of these six areas shows that there is no so-called "central line of the strait" in the Taiwan Strait.

Previously, flying over the so-called "central line of the strait" has become a normal practice of the PLA. This round of joint military operations across the so-called "central line of the strait" will completely shatter the illusions of some people.

In the future, PLA warships will regularly conduct training in the east of the so-called "central line of the strait".

Looking at the area on the northwest side, it is located in the southeast of Pingtan Island. Pingtan is the closest place to Taiwan Province on the mainland, that is to say, this exercise area is located in the narrowest part of the Taiwan Strait.

Conducting military exercises here is equivalent to controlling the Taiwan Strait.

China has repeatedly stressed that the Taiwan Strait is not an international waters, and China enjoys sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction over the Taiwan Strait.

Note the two areas in the southwest and north. As you can see from the picture, they are very close to Taiwan Island.

The southwest area is only about 20 kilometers away from Taiwan Island.

What is the concept of this distance? For example, the maximum flight speed of the J-20 is Mach 2.0, which is 41 kilometers per minute. In other words, the scope of the PLA's military exercise and training was less than 30 seconds away from the island of Taiwan.

To achieve a blow is a blink of an eye.

In addition, this area is also a necessary place for Taiwan Island's shipping to the United States, Europe and Asia.

The northern area is only about 80 kilometers away from Taipei.




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Inace prosli put kad su Kinezi radili 10 puta manju vezbu od ove, 1996, Hameri im poslali 2 razaraca da prodju tim moreuzom, Kinezi se uplasili ucutali, a danas Hameri odlazu svoje vezbe negde tu kod Japana da ne bi "provocirali" Kineze dodatno. Kako se vremena menjaju. Inace Kinezi sada do daljneg rade ovakve vezbe i u Bohai i Zutom Moru kod Japana.


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Sad je stvar proste matematike. Jesu li skuplje kineske vojne vježbe ili gubitak novca od gospodarstva Tajvanu.

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Ovaj krenuo da place kao Bosnje ili Hukrajinci, nisam ocekivao da ce se ovako bogat narod ponasati tako.

Aj sto placu nego od juce poceli i da lazu da Kina nije uopste usla u 12 milja njihovih voda, iako postoje slike i dokazi.

Isti Hukrajinci i Bosnje, izgleda da takvo ponasenje nema veze sa materijalnim status nego sa sa necim drugim.


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Zamisli tog “naroda” koji dijeli djeci američka imena.

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