http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/04/us-syria-crisis-fighting-idUSBREA0308720140104

Pa je li u državnom interesu samo ratovati i uništavati sekularne režime u okruženju (Arafat, Assad, a po tvome i jordanski kralj) koji ti mogu donijeti mir i stabilnost, ili pokušati stvoriti trajno rješenje bez rata?

Mislite da je moguće trajno rješenje?

Ja sam bliži misli Ben Nitayevog tate da su se tu našla dva jarca pred provalijom i tvrdoglavo niti jedan ne popušta. Jedan će morati završiti u provaliji. Sumnjam da je ikakav dogovor tu moguć.

Kao i perspektiva trajnog mira. Jordanski kralj je možda za mir i savezništvo, ali 80% Jordanaca gleda na Izrael kao neprijateljsku zemlju. Stvar sa Egiptom gdje je vojska održavala mir kupljena dolarima dok je velika većina Egipćana protiv Židova. Došlo MB odmah su rekli da će razmotriti mirovni ugovor, no eto demokratskim metodama je srušena većinska vlast.

Slažem se što se tiče Irana, gdje je Bibi bacio sve karte na Romneya i lobirao protiv Obame i to mu se sad vraća. Plus što ratna stranka u SAD-u i jastrebovi ima puno manju mogućnost gurnuti zemlju u novi rat. Oko Sirije su isto tako neozbiljni. Ali čini mi se da u perspektivi biranja između nečega što je moguće i ovisi o njima (Zapadne Obale) i nečega što je vrlo neizvjesno na dulji rok (naklonost Jordana) biraju prvu opciju.

S time da ne treba smetnuti s uma da su Židovi veliki mitomani što se tiče Eretz Yisraela (valjda tu srpsko podrijetlo po Deretiću igra neku ulogu) dobar dio i to oni najžešći smatraju da je to zemlja dana od Boga i da mora biti židovska. Pa i karte na unutarnjem planu, pogotovo političkom su složene. Teško da se i može složiti koalicija koja nije nacionalistička dobrim dijelom ili čak u većini. I šira društvena kretanja, desna revolucija koja je od Osla i Rabina dobrim dijelom preuzela zemlju, činjenica da umjereni i sekularni čine sve manji i manji postotak stanovništva, a da bipolarna podjela društva jača (a kad se izuzmu Arapi, Haredi/nacionalistički blok među Židovima prevladava).

Teško je tu biti pametan.

Hoće li se Nixonov palac na kraju pokazati vizionarskim...

I ti?

Ja nisam mislio uopće o njemu, znao sam da je u komi ali sam se iznenadio prije nekog vremena kad sam vidio snimku njega u krevetu.

Baš onako, vidiš čovjek potpuno propao, ne znam kako su to uopće snimili, čudno.

I to prije smrti.

Kao evo već 8 godina je u komi, kuriozitet.

Palestinians: The Invented People

“The history of the Palestinian people goes back as far as”… This is where Arab “historians” disagree. Some say the “Palestinian people” have a proud 4000-year history; others say 10,000 years, 30,000 years, and even –don’t laugh- 200,000 years, which makes the Neanderthals pretty young people compared to the “mysterious Palestinians”. But although Arab historians do not agree on the “insignificant” details like the age of the “Palestinian people”, they do agree that this people is incredibly ancient-far more ancient than Jews, Romans or Greeks.

In the glorious history of the “Palestinian people”, there is only one “small” problem; nobody in history ever found them.

In 721 BCE, Assyria conquered the Kingdom of Israel. This is a historical fact nobody denies. Of course, the “Palestinian people” heroically fought against the aggressors and caused them heavy losses? Well, not exactly. Not a single Assyrian Chronicle, not even a single clay tablet, mentions this noble people. Could it be that hundreds of thousands of “Palestinians” were heroically fighting the Assyrian invaders – and these invaders did not even notice it? At the same time, those same Assyrian Chronicles are full of reports about the battles with the Israelis. So, Assyrians very well found Israelis, but did not notice any “Palestinians”?

No "Palestinians" in the Babylonian Chronicles either. Photo Source: http://www.bible-history.com/
No “Palestinians” in the Babylonian Chronicles either. Photo Source: http://www.bible-history.com/

Well, Assyrians did not notice any “Palestinian people”. Most probably, because the King Sargon II was a Zionist. And what about Babylonians? The same mystery awaits us when we start reading the Babylonian Chronicles about the conquest of the Kingdom of Judah between 597 and 582 BCE. Jews are there at every second page. And “Palestinians”? There is not a word about them. Babylonians did not find them, either.

But of course Persians found “Palestinians” and left to us the detailed description of this wonderful people, of its rich culture, interesting habits, language…? Alas. They did not. The Persian Chronicles are telling us about Jews, about how Cyrus granted them the permission to return to Jerusalem, about how Persian satraps ruled in Judah and Israel… But about the “Palestinians” – not a word.

What makes the “quest to find Palestinians” even more amusing is that Alexander the Great passed all along the coast of Palestine from Tyre to Gaza in 332 – but did not find a single “Palestinian”: only Jews.

Where the heck did the “Palestinians” hide?

Well, ok, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, even Alexander the Great: it was so long ago! But what about the scrupulous and methodical Romans? The same story.

Romans explain in great detail how they were besieging Jerusalem, scrupulously informing us about how Jews were desperately defending it. They describe the Jewish revolts and how they quelled them and provide information about how Jews were fighting against them in Masada, about how Romans divided Judah and renamed it Palestine, about how they renamed Jerusalem in Aelia Capitolina…They tell us about a lot of things – but they do not say a single word about some “Palestinians”.

Moreover, although they renamed the land in “Palestine”, they went on calling its inhabitants as they were called for thousands of years: Jews. So, “Palestine” became the official name of the land, but its inhabitants remained Jews.

Just a moment, and where were the “Palestinian people” when Arabs came?

It’s a million dollar question. Modern Arabs say they are “Palestinians”. And what did the Arabs of the 7th century, those who conquered Palestine, say about this?

Do you know any document written in the period of the Arab rule in Palestine that would say a word about some “Palestinians”? I do not. And nobody does, because such a document does not exist.

The situation becomes really amusing! Arabs today are foaming about how their forefathers lived in Palestine since the Time Immemorial, and their forefathers did not have any idea about their glorious and ancient past there.

Well, after all, the Arab rule in Palestine did not last long. Just 300 years after the Arab conquest, Turks –first Mamluks and then Ottomans- threw them out. Under various names – Seljuks, Mamluks, Ottomans- the Turks ruled in Palestine for 600 years. Quite enough time to find such a numerous and glorious ethnic group as the “Palestinian people”. Did the Turks find them? Alas! The Turkish official statistics accurately puts the number of Jews, Arabs, Circassians and Bosnians in Palestine, providing detailed information about the number of Muslims, Christians and Jews – yet they never mention any “Palestinian people”.

Even the Romans who renamed the land "Palestine" found no "Palestinians."
Even the Romans who renamed the land “Palestine” found no “Palestinians.”

Ok. Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Persians and Arabs did not happen to notice any “Palestinian people”. Turks, in those 600 years they ruled in Palestine, did not find them either. And where was this incredibly ancient and unbelievingly heroic people hiding after 1917? The numerous League of Nations Commissions (later UN Commissions) did not find them; all the League of Nations documents of that period are only about Jews and Arabs, but there is not a word about any “Palestinians” as a separate people. Maybe the politicians of the Western countries talked about “Palestinians” then? No, they did not. Delegates from 11 nations went to the area and found what had long been apparent: two conflicting groups, Arabs and Jews, whose national aspirations could not be reconciled. “Palestinians”? Who are they?

But the politicians of the Arab counties, of course… Alas. The politicians of the Arab countries were very clear on this subject.

“We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.” (First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations, February 1919)

The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said, “Palestine was part of the Province of Syria,” and that, “politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity.”

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: “There is no such country as Palestine! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.”

“Palestine and Transjordan are one.” King Abdullah, Arab League meeting in Cairo,12 April 1948

So the Arabs in the 1940s did not notice any “Palestinians”. Moreover, they did not “notice” any “Palestine” either!

Ok. In the 40s, the Arab politicians did not find any “Palestinian people”. It’s no surprise; nobody could find them.

But maybe they “found” this mysterious “Palestinian people” later? They did not.

Syrian President Hafez Assad addressing the Palestinian leader, the Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), President of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) and “Father of the Palestinian People” Yasser Arafat, explained to him:

“You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people.”

Of course, the Palestinian leader, “Father of the Palestinian People” and so on, rejected these insinuations with indignation and… Actually, no, he did not.

"Our nation is the Arabic nation that stretches from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea and beyond it..." -Yasser Arafat. Photo Source: http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/
“Our nation is the Arabic nation that stretches from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea and beyond it…” -Yasser Arafat. Photo Source: http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/

Moreover, Arafat himself made a definitive and unequivocal statement along the same lines as late as 1993, when he declared that, “The question of borders doesn’t interest us… From the Arab standpoint, we mustn’t talk about borders. Palestine is nothing but a drop in an enormous ocean. Our nation is the Arabic nation that stretches from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea and beyond it…The P.L.O. is fighting Israel in the name of Pan-Arabism. What you call “Jordan” is nothing more than Palestine.”

Not long ago, Azmi Bishara (the ex-Knesset member exiled from Israel for passing sensitive information to Hezbollah during the Second Lebanon War) who is anything except Israel’s friend, said the same: there is no Palestinian people. You can see and hear his words for yourselves, here is the link.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.” – King Hussein of Jordan, in 1981

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly was quoted as saying on February 2, 1970.

Abdul Hamid Sharif, Prime Minister of Jordan declared in 1980, “The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.”

But the Arabs who lived in Palestine since, as they assure us, the Time Immemorial, of course did not let Syrian and Jordanian dictators deprive them of their proud Palestinian past? You will be surprised, but they let them. And they had very serious reasons for this.

Do you know that until 1950, the name of the Jerusalem Post was THE PALESTINE POST?
That the journal of the Zionist Organization of America was NEW PALESTINE?
That the Bank Leumi’s original name was the ANGLO-PALESTINE BANK?
That the Israel Electric Company’s original name was the PALESTINE ELECTRIC COMPANY?
That there was the PALESTINE FOUNDATION FUND and the PALESTINE PHILHARMONIC?
And all these were JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS, organized and run by JEWS.
In America, the Anthem of the Zionist youngsters sang “PALESTINE, MY PALESTINE”, “PALESTINE SCOUT SONG” and “PALESTINE SPRING SONG”.

Until the late 60s, to call an Arab a “Palestinian” would mean to insult him because until the late 60s, the word “Palestinian” was commonly and unanimously associated in all the world with Jews, and all the world knew: Palestine is just another name for Israel and Judah, like for example Kemet was just another ancient name for Egypt. Arabs who lived in Palestine identified themselves as Arabs and were insulted when someone called them “Palestinians”: we are not Jews, we are Arabs, they used to respond.

Let’s Set Things Straight

There is a country in the Far East. The people who live there, (and they have lived in this country for many centuries), poetically called it “The Land Of The Rising Sun”. Then the Western travelers and geographers came to this country and gave it another name. Why? Maybe they were not poets, or maybe they came there on the sunset, or maybe they could not pronounce the original name in the original language… Did the people who lived there change because Western travelers and then politicians and journalists started to call their country by another name? No. They were those same people and they went on calling their country “The Land Of The Rising Sun”.

And the West calls it Japan.

There is a country in the Middle East. The people who lived there for many centuries called it “Eretz Israel”- The Land of Israel. Then the people from the West came- and gave to it another name. Did the people who lived there change? No. They were those same people and they went on calling their country “The Land of Israel”.

And the West calls it Palestine.

By: Y.K. Cherson

Sharon R.I.P.
Jedan od najvećih boraca protiv islamizma.

Ima dosta sličnosti na relaciji Bošnjaci - Palestinci. Inače nevezano za to vrijedi pročitati.

"Nazočnost velikog dijela Afrikanaca je prijetnja židovskom društvenom tkivu Izraela."

Premijer Benjamin Netanyahu


Bogu hvala na izraelskim Židovima.

To Netanyahu očito misli. No, zaribao se, jer Assad očito pobjeđuje, a zaribali su se i Ameri u Iraku jer je Iran danas tamo glavni.

Izraelski rabini: Keri je objavio rat Bogu



Tel Aviv - Grupa izraelskih rabina uključujući osnivača ultra desne partije Naša zemlja Izrael, napisali su otvoreno pismo američkom državnom tajniku Johnu Keriju , optuživši ga da je objavio rat Bogu , zbog trenutnih pokušaja posredovanja između izraelskih i palestinskih pregovarača .

Rabini su upozorili da Keri mora prestati s takvim aktivnostima kako bi izbjegao božju kaznu.Pismo je poslao Komitet za spas zemlje i naroda Izraela , koji je osnovao rabin Šolom Dov Volpi , osnivač spomenute partije .

Odbor se protivi političkom sporazumu s Palestincima koji uključuje teritorijalne ustupke .

" Vaši neprekidni napori izvršiti eksproprijaciju sastavnih dijelova naše Svete zemlje i predate ih Abbasovoj terorističkoj bandi graniče s objavom rata protv našeg Stvoritelja i vladaoci svijeta ! Jer Bog je poklonio čitavu Zemlju Izrael našim precima , Abrahamu , Izaku i Jakovu kako bi je oni prenijeli , kao vječno nasljeđe svojim potomcima , židovskom narodu do kraja vremena " , ističe se u pismu .

Rabini tvrde da Keri namjerava dovesti u opasnost izraelske Židove približavajući ih potencijalnoj raketnoj izgarati Zapadne obale , ako bude predana Palestincima .

" Ako nastavite taj destruktivni put , osigurat trajnu sramotu u židovskoj povijesti jer donosite nesreću židovskom narodu " , naveli su rabini , uz apel da odmah prestanu svi napori da se postignu " katastrofalnih sporazumi - kako bi se izbjegla teška nebeska kazna za sve umiješane , " zaprijetili su oni , kako prenose izraelski mediji .

Kerija su nedavno kritizirali i neki izraelski ministri između ostalog i za to što je upozorio na posljedice propasti mirovnih pregovora , a prije svega na rastuću delegitimizaciju i bojkot Izraela .

Glavni izraelski pregovarač u mirovnom procesu s Palestincima , ministrica pravde Izraela , Tzipi Livni , osudila je međutim danas kolege ministre zbog kritika na račun mirovnih napora američkog državnog tajnika .

Ona je za izraelski radio izjavila da se neki članovi vladajuće koalicije protive svakoj vrsti sporazuma , ocijenivši da su nedavni verbalni napadi na Kerija " šokantni " .

Ta njena izjava je odraz rastuće podjele u koaliciji desnog centra u kojoj ima pristalica mirovnog sporazuma , ali ima i onih koji teže da spriječe sporazum , zasnovan na okviru koji tek treba da predloži Keri .

Ministar gospodarstva Naftali Bennett , lider partije Jevrejski dom i pristalica židovskih naseljenika , zaprijetio je ovog tjedna da će izaći iz koalicije ako Kerijeva prijedlozi ne budu prihvatljivi .

I drugi ministri kritizirali su Kerijev pristup , podsjeća Asošiejted pres .

Tanjug

Israel’s Fertility Policy Bears Fruit


In contrast, Israel is not the kind of country to follow up a failed immigration experiment with more of the same.

“Israel’s government and society have done an impressive job showing that a determined polity can alter fertility rates in its own favor.”

Between 1984 and 1991, Israel achieved a public-relations coup by importing tens of thousands of Ethiopians who claimed to be Jews. Over the last decade, however, Israel has been taking direct action to limit its black citizens’ fertility.

Originally, Israel had banned immigration by the various sub-Saharan African tribes that claim some kind of hazy Jewish heritage, arguing that they aren’t real Jews. (Recent DNA studies suggest that Ethiopian Jews are only tenuously related to other Jews. These communities probably had a limited number of Jewish ancestors, travelers who married into the much larger local populations.)

In the fevered post-1967 ideological climate, however, Zionism was denounced around the world as racism, as the latest manifestation of white colonialism. The Jewish state hit upon the PR masterstroke of embracing its Ethiopian aspirants.

This didn’t mollify the Arabs, but the symbolism pleased a more important audience: American Jews concerned about Israel appearing racist. Unsurprisingly, this living proof that you could be Israeli and black proved immensely popular with American Jews, who showered Israel’s small community of Ethiopians with $600 million in donations.

Also unsurprisingly, the Ethiopians have proved increasingly less popular with their Israeli neighbors, who have come to view them and their children as backward and crime-prone. Whether that is due to white Israelis’ racism or to the blacks’ shortcomings is a matter of dispute.

What is clear is that Israelis have lost their naïveté about African immigrants.

Israel’s government has allowed most of the remaining Ethiopian Jews to immigrate, but it has not leapt at any of the new opportunities facilitated by DNA testing to declare additional East African tribes eligible. For example, since Robert Mugabe began destroying Zimbabwe’s economy, some of the Lemba people of that unfortunate land have been agitating for the right to move to Israel based on their vaguely Jewish customs and DNA. But Israel has not been forthcoming.

The booming Israeli economy naturally attracts black illegal immigrants. The Israeli government long relied on Egypt’s Mubarak regime to keep blacks from approaching its border, but the Arab Spring sprung a leak in that system.

So Israel has been hustling to finish its border fences to keep out black undocumented workers (or, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calls them, “illegal infiltrators”). Contrary to American conventional wisdom, fences seem to work just fine in Israel. The Interior Ministry recently announced that African intruders dropped from 2,295 in January of 2012 to only 54 in October.

Most interestingly, since 2008 there has been evidence of a widespread resolve within Israeli society to drive down the fertility of its Ethiopian minority through forcefully persuading poorly educated black women into accepting injections of the Depo-Provera contraceptive.

Depo-Provera has long figured prominently among the bugaboos of leftist and black conspiracy theorists. They see it as part of the White Man’s Plot to reduce black fertility.

They may be right.

First tested on black welfare mothers in Georgia in 1967, Depo-Provera injections are publicly said to work for three months, although I’ve been told that they are effective for longer. (Note: Do not take medical advice from me.) The three-month label is supposed to be a cover story to get the more scatterbrained patients back in for another shot before the old one wears off.

Depo-Provera has long been most widely used in Third World countries but wasn’t approved for American use until the peak of the crack crisis in 1992. As hoped and/or feared, it has been more often prescribed to African Americans. It appears to have helped drive down their birthrate from the peak in 1991.

In Israel, Ethiopian women have said on camera that Israeli immigration officials told them that they wouldn’t be allowed into the country without taking Depo-Provera shots. They claim to have been subsequently browbeaten into staying on the contraceptive. One study found that Ethiopian women account for 57 percent of all Israel’s Depo-Provera prescriptions.

In December, an Israeli news show recorded an Israeli nurse telling an Ethiopian immigrant that the injections are given

primarily to Ethiopian women because they forget, they don’t understand, and it’s hard to explain to them, so it’s best that they receive a shot once every three months…basically they don’t understand anything. Ma nee. To ne može bit.

Whether the Israeli approach to reducing black fertility is written or unwritten, it seems to be working. The Ethiopian-Israeli fertility rate is said to have dropped by nearly 50 percent in the last decade.

In contrast to Israelis, who obsess over demographics, Americans are never allowed to think about how proposed policies such as amnesty and guest workers will impact fertility, even though the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment grants instant citizenship to any child born in the US.

Overall, Israel’s government and society have done an impressive job showing that a determined polity can alter fertility rates in its own favor. It was long said that the Jewish state was doomed by the much higher total fertility of Israeli Muslims, who as recently as 2000 were having babies at a rate of 4.57 per lifetime compared to only 2.67 for Israeli Jews. How could anyone possibly close that gap?

Yet by 2011, the Muslim TFR had fallen to 3.51, while the Jewish TFR grew to 2.98.

Israel deserves careful study by Americans. It demonstrates what an intelligent, self-governing people can accomplish.

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Jordan proteruje ambasadora Izraela
Izvor: Beta

Aman -- Jordanski parlament jednoglasno je odlučio da protera izraelskog ambasadora.


Takva odluka doneta je zbog rasprave u izraelskom parlamentu o preuzimanju suverniteta nad svetim mestom u Jerusalimu kojim upravlja Jordan.

Glasanjem aklamacijom je odlučeno i da se opozove jordanski ambasasdor iz Izraela, ali ova odluka nije obavezujuća za vladu Jordana koja nastoji da održi diplomatske veze s Izraelom.

Poslanik u Knesetu vladajućeg Likuda Moše Fejglin pokrenuo je raspravu o tome da Izrael preuzme kontrolu nad muslimanskim svetim mestom Hramovoj gori, kojom, prema mirnovnom sporazumu iz 1994, upravlja Jordan. Debata je okončana bez glasanja.

Zvaničnik iz jordanske vlade je rekao da se ne očekuje odluka o zahtevu parlamenta pre ishoda debate u Knesetu.

Jevreji i Palestinci se spore oko suvereniteta nad Hramovom gorom, kako je zovu Jevreji, ili Plemenitom svetilištu (Haram el Šarif), kako je zovu Arapi, jer je obe zajednice smatraju svojim svetim mestom.

Prema jevrejskoj tradiciji, Bog je s tog mesta pokupio prah kako bi stvorio prvog čoveka Adama. Na tom mestu su sagrađena prva dva jerusalimska hrama. Jevreji veruju da će biti sagrađen i treći, poslednji hram na tom mestu.

Muslimani smatraju to mesto trećim najsvetijim mestom islama i mestom Muhamedovog putovanja u Jerusalim i njegovog uzdizanja u nebo. Oni to mesto povezuju i s jevrejskim biblijskim prorocima koji se poštuju i u islamu. Na tom mestu se nalazi džamija Al-Aksa s Kupolom na steni. To je najstarija očuvanja islamska građevina na svetu.

"Hitler was an unparalleled military genius. Nazism promoted Germany from a low to a fantastic physical and ideological status. The ragged, trashy youth body turned into a neat and orderly part of society and Germany received an exemplary regime, a proper justice system and public order. Hitler savored good music. He would paint. This was no bunch of thugs. They merely used thugs and homosexuals."

Moshe Feiglin