Ne može se selektivno birati ono što nekome paše. Zbog toga i ima toliko denominacija u svijetu.

Ne može se selektivno birati ono što nekome paše. Zbog toga i ima toliko denominacija u svijetu.

Bilo kakva vječna kazna je po definiciji nepravedna, a kamoli kad se radi o mučenju, bilo fizičkom, bilo psihičkom. Pogotovo ako ljude kažnjavaš jer te ne vole dovoljno ili ne vjeruju da postojiš ili nisu mogli niti znati da postojiš sve da se bog stvarno ukazivao u starom i novom zavjetu, kažnjavaju se čak ljudi prije toga, koji su živjeli u starom egiptu, staroj grčkoj, eej pazi retardiranog zločinačkog debilizma. Hitler i Staljin su za kršćane i njihovog boga mila majka. Purger, uspio si mi sa svojim upisima toliko zgaditi kršćanstvo da mi to nebi ni najveći ateist uspio.

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odvratan kult....sa kaznama tisucama godina, jer nisi uzeo krizmu, pricest, ili iso nedeljom na misu, sa ocehe nasek.
I, posle se cude sto prodaju crkve na zapadu za diskoteke, magacine, ducane.

Pa, tko to pusi vise takvu bajku, (max 1/5)....u Srbiji 5%....

Nije bitno tko šta osjeća, bitno je ono što je objektivno istina.
Ja tvrdim da je udaljenost od npr Zagreba do Varaždina 500 km, a ti tvrdiš da je 50 km, kako ćemo provjeriti?

Zabranjivali su i pribor za jelo.

Da ih uopće nije bilo imali bi internet početkom 18. stoljeća.

Da nije tih vraceva, zreca, vjerskih lidera, svjet bi bio idealno mjesto za zivot....oni su podelili ovce i zakrvili ih medjusobno.

Da ih lakse kontroliraju, manipuliraju i IZMUZAVAJU....

Srpski popovi su haracili narod sa devetkom 1/9...porez 11%, veci od vladarskog 1/10 + kuluk,
(Osmanlije su taj zadrzali+kuluk).

Tko nije imao za popove, slali su svoje "ovrsitelje" i otimali od sirotinje, tko danas....nista se nije promenilo.

To je jedna parazitska elita, oligarkija, koja je VAMPIRSKI nastrojena, sisati tudju krv, iskoristavati TUDJI ZNOJ i RAD.

Nije bitno tko šta osjeća, bitno je ono što je objektivno istina.
Ja tvrdim da je udaljenost od npr Zagreba do Varaždina 500 km, a ti tvrdiš da je 50 km, kako ćemo provjeriti?

Najveći proboj novih otkrića ostvaren dok se još koliko toliko držalo do vjere i tradicije, a sad više ne vide ni razliku muškarca i žene, najluđi su baš tamo gdje su najnapredniji i najobrazovaniji, oslobođeni okova tradicije i religije.

Notorna glupost.

Kad toliko držiš do navika i uvjerenja nepismenih predaka, pod hitno baci računalo kroz prozor. I nabavi si veću šubaru.

Kako glupost, što je veća razvijenost i više obrazovanih ljudi, veća je šansa da će u državi ili gradu biti raširene bolesne ideje i vjerovanja, štetnija od bilo kojih religijskih. Kao primjer vrhunca su američka sveučilišta.

Ja nisam ništa rekao protiv znanosti, već protiv ideje da je ona nepogrešiva u svakom pogledu, nasuprot iracionalnoj religiji, koju treba odbaciti.

Tu kao primjer dobro posluži zbrka oko spola i što struka savjetuje na Zapadu. Teško za pronaći išta bolesnije i štetnije u kršćanskoj povijesti Zapada.

Whether the acts of the sensitive powers remain in the separated soul?

On the contrary, That which is common to soul and body cannot remain in the separated soul. Now all the operations of the sensitive powers are common to the soul and body: and this is evident from the fact that no sensitive power exercises an act except through a bodily organ. Therefore the separated soul will be deprived of the acts of the sensitive powers. Further, the Philosopher says (De Anima i, 4), that "when the body is corrupted, the soul neither remembers nor loves," and the same applies to all the acts of the sensitive powers. Therefore the separated soul does not exercise the act of any sensitive power.

Whether the separated soul can suffer from a bodily fire?

I answer that... But the corporeal fire is enabled as the instrument of the vengeance of Divine justice thus to detain a spirit; and thus it has a penal effect on it, by hindering it from fulfilling its own will, that is by hindering it from acting where it will and as it will.... and Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xxi, 10) that "just as, although the soul is spiritual and the body corporeal, man is so fashioned that the soul is united to the body as giving it life, and on account of this union conceives a great love for its body, so it is chained to the fire, as receiving punishment therefrom, and from this union conceives a loathing."

Whether in hell the damned are tormented by the sole punishment of fire?

Reply to Objection 2: It is because fire is most painful, through its abundance of active force, that the name of fire is given to any torment if it be intense.

Whether the worm of the damned is corporeal?

I answer that... Consequently the worm ascribed to the damned must be understood to be not of a corporeal but of a spiritual nature: and this is the remorse of conscience, which is called a worm because it originates from the corruption of sin, and torments the soul, as a corporeal worm born of corruption torments by gnawing.

Whether the weeping of the damned will be corporeal?

On the contrary... Therefore the weeping of the damned will not be corporeal.

Whether any sin incurs a debt of eternal punishment?

Reply to Objection 1: Punishment is proportionate to sin in point of severity, both in Divine and in human judgments. In no judgment, however, as Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xxi, 11) is it requisite for punishment to equal fault in point of duration. For the fact that adultery or murder is committed in a moment does not call for a momentary punishment: in fact they are punished sometimes by imprisonment or banishment for life---sometimes even by death; wherein account is not taken of the time occupied in killing, but rather of the expediency of removing the murderer from the fellowship of the living, so that this punishment, in its own way, represents the eternity of punishment inflicted by God. Now according to Gregory (Dial. iv, 44) it is just that he who has sinned against God in his own eternity should be punished in God's eternity. A man is said to have sinned in his own eternity, not only as regards continual sinning throughout his whole life, but also because, from the very fact that he fixes his end in sin, he has the will to sin, everlastingly. Wherefore Gregory says (Dial. iv, 44) that the "wicked would wish to live without end, that they might abide in their sins for ever."

Whether sin incurs a debt of punishment infinite in quantity?

Reply to Objection 3: Duration of punishment corresponds to duration of fault, not indeed as regards the act, but on the part of the stain, for as long as this remains, the debt of punishment remains. But punishment corresponds to fault in the point of severity. And a fault which is irreparable, is such that, of itself, it lasts for ever; wherefore it incurs an everlasting punishment.

Whether by Divine justice an eternal punishment is inflicted on sinners? [*Cf. FS, Q[87], AA[3],4]

I answer that… But the duration of punishment regards the disposition of the sinner: for sometimes a person who commits an offense in a city is rendered by his very offense worthy of being cut off entirely from the fellowship of the citizens, either by perpetual exile or even by death: whereas sometimes he is not rendered worthy of being cut off entirely from the fellowship of the citizens. wherefore in order that he may become a fitting member of the State, his punishment is prolonged or curtailed, according as is expedient for his amendment, so that he may live in the city in a becoming and peaceful manner. So too, according to Divine justice, sin renders a person worthy to be altogether cut off from the fellowship of God's city, and this is the effect of every sin committed against charity, which is the bond uniting this same city together. Consequently, for mortal sin which is contrary to charity a person is expelled for ever from the fellowship of the saints and condemned to everlasting punishment, because as Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xxi, 11), "as men are cut off from this perishable city by the penalty of the first death, so are they excluded from that imperishable city by the punishment of the second death." That the punishment inflicted by the earthly state is not deemed everlasting is accidental, either because man endures not for ever, or because the state itself comes to an end. Wherefore if man lived for ever, the punishment of exile or slavery, which is pronounced by human law, would remain in him for ever. On the other hand, as regards those who sin in such a way as not to deserve to be entirely cut off from the fellowship of the saints, such as those who sin venially, their punishment will be so much the shorter or longer according as they are more or less fit to be cleansed, through sin clinging to them more or less: this is observed in the punishments of this world and of purgatory according to Divine justice. We find also other reasons given by the saints why some are justly condemned to everlasting punishment for a temporal sin. One is because they sinned against an eternal good by despising eternal life. This is mentioned by Augustine (De Civ. Dei. xii, 12): "He is become worthy of eternal evil, who destroyed in himself a good which could be eternal." …

Pa čovječe, shvataš li ti kakvu glupost zastupaš? Da nije bilo obrazovanih ljudi evropski narodi nikad ne bi dosegli prosvetiteljski period, temelj svake moderne nacije jesu obrazovani ljudi. Ti s tim imaš problem?! Mislim, zajebavaš nas tu ili što?

I što si koji qurac zapeo za zbrku oko spola koju ima 0,001% polupacije na svijetu. Ima li perifernije opasnosti po tvoje samopouzdanje od toga što neki nesretnik iz Wisconsina želi da mu se odstrani piško miško.

Znanost bi mogla uskoro tražiti da se u školama uči o trećem spolu, a djecu odgaja spolno neutralno dok sama ne odluče.

Pod pojmom "znanost" u stvari misliš "bolesni ljevičari koji se kriju iza lijepih pojmova znanost, antifašizam, ravnopravnost itd., koje iskorištavaju da bi promovirali svoju bolesnu ideologiju"?

Ali to nije znanost. To su samo bolesni ljevičari koje je stid biti to što jesu.

Da, slažem se. Navodim to kao primjer nečeg što bi skoro moglo biti mainstream mišljenje onog što nazivaju znanost na Zapadu, ako već nije.

Pa nije problem obrazovanost, nego tko je preuzeo obrazovne institucije.

Taj ima moć ispiranja mozga onima koji će danas-sutra odlučiti stav "znanosti" o svemu.

I nisam ništa ja zapeo za zbrku oko spola, već navodim onima koji bi strogo uz racionalnu "znanost" protiv religije, da im draga znanost na Zapadu curicama koje misle da su dečki daje hormonske terapije da se ne razviju u ono što po prirodi jesu.

I to vam je ta znanost, ako je se već hvatate u cjelini.

Ti repliciraš na nešto što ja uopće nisam rekao.

hercegovačkoj vukojebini

1. "Pa nije problem obrazovanost"
2. "što je veća razvijenost i više obrazovanih ljudi"

Odluči se što ti smeta, ili se izrazi jasnije.


I opet on, curama na zapadu daju hormone. Pa što?! Kako te to ometa da živiš u svojoj hercegovačkoj vukojebini?

U Kini nasilno raseljavaju ljude da im zatru kulturu, jezik i podrijetlo, to ti je ok? Svijet je pun gluposti i nepravdi, ali tvoje živciranje oko toga neće riješiti ni jednu od tih gluposti.

Bolje nađi nešto što te fascinira i zanima, posveti se tome.

1. "Pa nije problem obrazovanost"
2. "što je veća razvijenost i više obrazovanih ljudi"

Odluči se što ti smeta, ili se izrazi jasnije.


I opet on, curama na zapadu daju hormone. Pa što?! Kako te to ometa da živiš u svojoj hercegovačkoj vukojebini?

U Kini nasilno raseljavaju ljude da im zatru kulturu, jezik i podrijetlo, to ti je ok? Svijet je pun gluposti i nepravdi, ali tvoje živciranje oko toga neće riješiti ni jednu od tih gluposti.

Bolje nađi nešto što te fascinira i zanima, posveti se tome.