- Nisu oni uletjeli u prazan prostor izmedju DNR i LNR, vec su izgubili oblasti oko tog dzepa poslednjih 15-tak dana. To je bilo i jos je stratesko mjesto, jer su Lugansk i Donjeck prije novih nemira bili povezani samo jednim putnim pravcem, a ako im uspije da preuzmu ovaj dio onda ce ta veza biti: tri drumske i dvije zeljeznicke.

- Polozaji juzno od Donjecka, prema Marijupulju su dobro ucvrsceni sa obje strane i tesko ih je probiti. Donjeck je vazan i mora se vrsiti pritisak na njega, jer je bas on osovina otpora prorusa.

Izvor: http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/planeta.299.html:532117-Donjeck-Oboreni-ukrajinski-helikopter-i-avion

Svaka cast tim rusinima
Niti jednog poginulog ni ranjenog do sada..

Izvor: http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/531723/Najmanje-5358-ljudi-poginulo-dosad-u-ukrajinskim-sukobima

Cuj po srninim infosima dojam je bio da ginu samo vojnici
odani Ukrajinskoj domovini..

Nije to odgovor.

Gubici SSSR-a u DSR-u su bili ogromni pa su ratovali dalje.

Tvrditi da zemlja od 40 milijuna ljudi može zbog gubitaka od par tisuća ili 10-15 000 vojnika (a ne znamo koliko) izgubiti kapacitete za ratovanje je neozbiljno.

Evo cijelog teksta koji sam napisao:
Gubici su ogromni. Mi kao da se ne sjecamo sta smo sve izgubili ovde. Nije samo u pitanju ljudski zivot, vec i gubitak za cijelu generaciju iza.
Ovde kacimo kojekakve mape, a nismo svjesni da je to prostor koji u prethodnom nam ratu bio prevelik (ex yu).

Vi izvlacite samo dio teksta cime se gubi smisao napisanog i dobija se potpuno druga konotacija. Nije poenta u ljudskim gubicima samo, vec i u nazadovanju kompletne nacije. Naravno da se Ukrajina nece predati. Velika je to i mocna zemlja.

Izvor: http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/planeta.299.html:532176-Stotine-demonstranata-pokusalo-da-udje-kod-Porosenka

Ta će on, vidi mu glove.



Inače, gospodin Semjon je u vrijeme onih zauzimanja administrativnih objekata po Donbasu bio na novoruskoj strani, učestvovao je na onim okupljanjima i valjda se htio uvući među vodeće pa je iz nekog razloga šutnut, pa je poslije toga prešao na stranu hunte.

Kako će tek za mjesec dana, kada malo otopli - to će frcati na sve strane.

Jedna stvar me čudi - da Slavjansk, koji je u početku bio centar pobune proruskih snaga, je sada duboko u kijevskom teritoriju?

Ja bi čak rekao da Prorusi slabo koriste petu kolonu. Naime, u većini naselja u istočnoj i jugoističnoj Ukrajini, u dijelovima koji su još uvijek pod službenim Kijevom, barem 60% do 70% ljudi je za pobunjenike.

Gospodin Gogi (Goran?) bi mogao biti Srbek, ima srpsku prišivku na rukavu.

Ukrajinska vojska je uletila u taj prostor jos proslo ljeto u ambicioznoj akciji da presjeku veze izmedju LNR i DNR i preuzmu kontrolu granice sa Rusijom.
Karta iz tog perioda:

Tu im je najveci uspjeh uzimanje Slavjangrada i ulijetanje klinom do Djebaljcjeva. Juzni dio akcije je dozivjeo masakr u Saur Mogili i Ilovajsku,istjerani su iz pogranicnog pojasa i nisu uspjeli presjeci veze LNR i DNR. Tako je ostao samo klin u Djebaljcjevu koji ce se rijesiti uskoro.

Tko drži granicu prema Rusiji. To mi skroz nejasno.

To je zemljovid od ljetos

Jedan interesantan post sa militaryphotos.net.

Ako se ne vidi:

http://www.mycity-military.com/Vesti-i- ... l#p1657695

O Bože...

Ovi su skroz prsli. Koja je ovo paranoya.
Gospodin Vladimir i Alfe na donjeckom aerodromu

Zanimljiv tekst.

Debaljcevski kotao i slom ukrajinske oružane sile

http://www.altermainstreaminfo.com.hr/v ... ne-sile-32

Pet granicnih prelaza drze samo Rusi zvanicno. Sa strane LNR i DNR su klasicni punktovi, bez institucionalnih nadleznosti. Ukrajina nema kontrolu nad tim prelazima.
Sve ovo vazi za sadasnjost.

Tako je gospodo Britanci: Ukrajina, Zimbabve, Džibuti...sve je to bivša Jugoslavija.

Zar je vrijeme za molitvu

Kyiv Post offers a wartime glossary that would help to avoid this confusion.

Cyborg literally means half-man and half-machine, but in 2014 the word has become commonly attributed to brave Ukrainian defenders of Donetsk airport. The word was used in this meaning for the first time in October of 2014 by one of Russian-backed insurgents in Donetsk, who witnessed invincibility of the Ukrainian soldiers and called them cyborgs for that. Myslovo, an online dictionary of neologisms and modern Ukrainian slang, named cyborg the word of the year.

Ukrop (also, Ukr) literally means “dill” in Russian, but for those opposed to Ukrainian government, army, or even nation, it became (initially a derogatory) word for Ukrainians. In the war-torn Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts it indicates Ukrainian soldiers and volunteer fighters. This neologism was invented by separatists back in summer and just like with cyborg it soon became popular with the Ukrainians. Later it inspired the artists and designers to produce stripes and T-shirts with a picture of dill and word ukrop that became commonly worn by Ukrainian volunteer fighters and patriotic civilians.
rus. ukrop [укроп]= hrv. kopar (lat. Anethum graveolens)

Separ is a shorten version of the word “separatist” and it is now commonly used to define the residents of Donbas, who want separation from Ukraine and often support joining Russia. This term is often used by Ukrainian soldiers to define their enemies. But both pro-Russian combatants and civilians don’t like to be called this way.

Colorad that goes from the Colorado beetle is also commonly used for pro-Russian residents of Ukraine. The reason of this is the black-and-yellow colors of St. George ribbon, the beloved attribute of pro-Russian rallies and distinctive feature of pro-Russian militants. For comparison with the ugly beetle this word is perceived as offensive by pro-Russians.
http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8

Vatnik, unlike the two previous terms, has appeared back in November of 2011 thanks to Russian blogger Anton Chadsky, who used it in a group in Vkontakte (Russian alternative to Facebook.) Vatnik, originally a name of a warm cotton-padded Russian jacket that is still used sometimes in rural areas, has a broad meaning of all people with imperial Russian ideology. Early in 2014 vatnik received a more common use in Ukraine. Chadsky had to flee Russia for Ukraine seeking refuge over persecution.
Later in 2014, a similar term for overly patriotic Ukrainians was invented. Vyshyvatnik (a mixture of vatnik and vyshyvanka – Ukraine’s traditional embroidered shirt) is an antipode of vatnik and defines a person who implicitly trusts Ukrainian propaganda and blindly hates everything related to Russia.

Yarosh business card is a popular term that was born in late April of 2014 after the Russian media shared a story saying that business cards of Dmytro Yarosh, leader of Right Sector Ukrainian nationalist party, were found at the site of a bloody shootout at the checkpoint in Sloviansk. The irony was that the paper business cards were reportedly found inside a totally burned car. Since then, the term has been mockingly used to define something deadly and indestructible.

ZhydoBanderivets literally means “Jewish-Banderit” and signifies a Ukrainian nationalist of Jewish nationality. This term became popular in Ukraine in early spring of 2014 and was a shocking phenomenon for Russian propaganda that tends to show the Ukrainian nationalist groups as anti-Semitic and even Nazi forces. One of the most famous Ukrainians who have been referred to as ZhydoBanderivets is oligarch and Dnipropetrovsk governor Igor Kolomoisky, of Jewish origin.

Kyiv junta is a very popular term in the areas that are now controlled by separatists and stands for modern Ukraine’s government. The residents of Donbas often claim they don’t recognize the authority of current government in Kyiv, the feeling which they often combine with the belief that these authorities are obliged to defend them, pay out their pensions and salaries and reconstruct their houses destroyed by war.

Dyvanna Sotnia or “Couch Hundred” is a mockery term that means people whose social activity is limited by active use of social networks, where they tend to aggressively express their opinions, giving advice on how the crisis in the east can be solved. It originates from the name of traditional Ukrainian military unit “a hundred.”

Krymnash means “Crimea is ours” in Russian and reflects the excitement of the pro-Kremlin Russian residents about annexation of Crimea. It is often used in an ironic sense to highlight the vanity of this attainment for common Russians. Crimea invasion produced two more neologisms. The little green men refers to the Russian soldiers who didn't wear insignia when invading the peninsula. Meanwhile, Russian propaganda prepared its own term for the little green man - polite people. The Russians even produced a Soviet-style anthem of the annexation with this term in it.

Golden loaf is a term that appeared in late February of 2014 when the EuroMaidan protesters broke into the mansion of ousted president Viktor Yanukovych and found, among other treasures, a paperweight in form of loaf of bread made of about two kilograms of pure gold. This finding became a symbol of Yanukovych's pathological thirst for luxury. Now the little models of the loaf can be found in Ukrainian souvenir shops. The term is used in reference to luxury matched with bad taste.

Gayrope is a mixture of words “gay” and “Europe” and it is widely used by adherents of pro-Russian ideology to show the decay of moral and family values in modern western world. Mykola Azarov, who occupied the post of a prime minister during all the years of Yanukovych’s presidency, has once warned the supporters of his party at a rally that the European integration would mean legalization of same-sex marriages.

PTN PNH is the most popular abbreviation with the Ukrainian army and many civilian patriots. It can be seen at many of the Ukrainian armored vehicles and weapons in possession of Ukrainian military, as well as on T-shirts and car number plates. It’s approximate meaning is (Russian President Vladimir) “Putin, go to hell”, but the original has a more offensive message.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv-post-plus/ukrainian-wartime-glossary-ukrop-vatnik-and-more-376978.html