Pisao sam sinoć, kupac određuje u koju će luku slati robu, a ne proizvođač. Osim toga S.Koreja je konstantno u ratnoj pripravnosti, sutra ludoj braći sa sjevera može doći da zapucaju, a to znači i kraj logističke potpore za njihove avione u HRZ-u. Ako očekujete da će se u RH odraditi neki offset program, u zabludi ste, nemamo mi sposobne političare i gospodarstvenike koji se mogu uhvatiti u koštac sa tim izazovima.

Pisao sam sinoć, kupac određuje u koju će luku proizvođač slati robu. Osim toga S.Koreja je konstantno u ratnoj pripravnosti, sutra ludoj braći sa sjevera može doći da zapucaju, a to znači i kraj logističke potpore za njihove avione u HRZ-u. Ako očekujete da će se u RH odraditi neki offset program, u zabludi ste, nemamo mi sposobne političare i gospodarstvenike koji se mogu uhvatiti u koštac sa tim izazovima.

Ovo nije tocno.

Nema nigdje pucanja dok Veliki Brat ne odobri.To su priče za malu djecu.

Avion je ok,bolje od svega što HRZ ima sad.Usporedba sa F16

To je itekako točno, da nije onda bi grčke luke radile punom parom kao najistočnije u EU, tj najbliže Indiji, Kini, Južnoj aziji.

Taj koreanac je kao i gripen lego kockica, sastavljena od američkih, izraelskih i korejskih dijelova.

Ne kažu džabe kod nas "puno baba, kilava djeca".

The development of the aircraft was funded by Lockheed Martin 13%, 17% by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), and 70% by the government of South Korea.
Original T-50 equipped with the AN/PG-67 (V) 4 radar from Lockheed Martin.
T-50 Golden Eagle design is largely derived from the Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, and they have much in common: use of a single motor, speed, size, cost and range of weapons.
The T-50 Golden Eagle uses a General Electric F404-102 turbofan engine produced under license by Samsung Techwin, upgraded with a Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) system jointly developed by General Electric and Korea Aerospace Industries. The engine consists of three-staged fans, seven axial stage arrangement, and an afterburner. The aircraft has a maximum speed of Mach 1.4-1.5. The engine delivers a maximum of 78.7 kN (17,700 lbf) of thrust with afterburner. The General Electric F414 engine has been proposed as the new engine for the T-50 family, but also Rolls Royce EJ200 for better compatibility with the European air forces. Both engines deliver more thrust compared to the F404.

The T-50's central processing unit and the operating system developed by MDS technology. [40] The T-50's avionics system is the first and only real-time operating system developed by an Asian company, and receives the DO-178B certification. Samsung Thales and LIG Nex1 are the main avionics and electronic warfare equipment developer for T-50 and its variants. Other South Korean companies such DoDAAM Systems and Aero Master are responsible for the secondary of the aircraft avionics, including store management computers, avionics test equipment, flight data recorders, portable maintenance aids, data analysis software, post-flight data processing system, and aircraft structure and engine management software.

Hanwha provides the mechanical components for the operating system, and WIA provides the base. The T-50 is equipped with a Honeywell H-764G embedded global positioning / inertial navigation system and HG9550 radar altimeter. The aircraft is the first coach of the digital fly-by-wire control interface (triple redundant) function. The cockpit panels, switches and joysticks are produced by the South Korean FirsTec and Sungjin Techwin.

TA-50 mounts a General Dynamics A-50 20 mm gun internally behind the cockpit. The gun is a three-barreled version of the M61 Vulcan, with 205 rounds of link less ammunition. AIM-9 Sidewinders can be connected to each wingtip rails, and additional weapons can be mounted under wing hard points. Compatible air-ground weapons are the AGM-65 Maverick missiles, Hydra 70 rocket launchers and LOGIR, CBU-58 and Mk-20 cluster bombs, and Mk-82, -83, -84, and general purpose bombs.

FA-50 can be externally provided with Rafael's Sky Shield LITE NING ECM pods and targeting pods to further improve the fighter electronic warfare and targeting capabilities. Other improved weapon systems over TA-50 are multifunctional SPICE guidance kits, Textron Sensor Fuzed Weapon with CBU-97/105 WCMD tail kits, JDAM-ER and JDAM for more extensive air-ground operations, and AIM-120 missiles for BVR air to air operations. FA-50 has provisions for but not yet integrated, Python and Derby missiles, also manufactured by Rafael.

General characteristics
Crew: 2
Length: 12.98 m (42 ft 7 in)
Wingspan: 9.17 m (30 ft 1 in)
Height: 4.78 m (15 ft 8.25 in)
Empty weight: 6,450 kg (14,200 pounds)
Max takeoff weight: 13,500 kg (29,700 pounds)
Powerplant: 1 × General Electric F404 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 53.07 kN (11,925 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 78.7 kN (17,700 lbf)

Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 1.4 ~ 1.5
Range: 1.851 km (1.150 mi)
Ceiling: 16,760 m (55,000 ft)
Thrust / weight: 0.96Max g limit: -3 g / 8 g

Weaponry
Guns: 1 × 20 mm (0.787 in)
General Dynamics A-50 three-barreled rotary cannon
Hard Points: Total: 7
Rockets: Hydra 70, LOGIR
Rockets:Air-to-air: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-120 AMRAAM.
Air-ground: AGM-65 Maverick
Bombs: Mk 82, Mk 83 and Mk 84 general purpose bombs with SPICE, JDAM or JDAM-ER guidance kits; CBU-97/105 sensor fuzed weapons, laser guided bombs

Kupcu je bitna ciiena i brzina. I to je to, ovo ne govorim napamet vec iz prve ruke jer znam ljude koji uvoze kontejnere robe iz Kine. Znaci ako je Rijeka cijenovno prihvatljiva kupac nece imat nista protiv dapace. Makar kupac bio u Svedskoj. Rijeka je EU luka na 2-3 sata voznje od kompletne Srednje i Zapadne Europe.

To je itekako točno, da nije onda bi grčke luke radile punom parom kao najistočnije u EU, tj najbliže Indiji, Kini, Južnoj aziji.

Najlogičniji odabir je očuvan i moderniziran f-16, takav avion je cijenom te sposobnostima (nosivost, dolet, itd) i političkom moći (US) ispred ostalih ponuđača. Na ,kraju njegove eksploatacije većinu zadaća bliske borbene potpore pokrivati će jeftino pametno streljivo (učimo od izraela).

Ali J. Koreja i Amerikanci su države koje su faktički stalno u ratu i avioni će im možda trebati i za borbu. Nama su dobri i ovi da isprate ponekog zalutalog avanturista koji se nije javio kontroli leta.

Ja bih radije nov Hyundai,nego polovnog gofa

Ali J. Koreja i Amerikanci su države koje su faktički stalno u ratu i avioni će im možda trebati i za borbu. Nama su dobri i ovi da isprate ponekog zalutalog avanturista koji se nije javio kontroli leta.

Našim pilotima je bitno da lete na "modernoj" tehnologiji,da usvajaju nova informatička znanja i napredne taktičke sustave,avionika manje više.Ako se nekad bude imalo love,lako je uzeti jače mašine,iako nama realno i ne trebaju,osim da crnčimo za NATO interese po nekim lijevim ratištima.

tako se i od budućeg hrz očekuje da budu dio koalicije koja će rušiti režime i države...