Jebali ti hercegovci majku.

"hercegovačkoj vukojebini" - to ti nije baš napredno, obrazovano i inkluzivno za reći.

"hercegovačkoj vukojebini" - to ti nije baš napredno, obrazovano i inkluzivno za reći.

1. "Pa nije problem obrazovanost"
2. "što je veća razvijenost i više obrazovanih ljudi"

Odluči se što ti smeta, ili se izrazi jasnije.

I opet on, curama na zapadu daju hormone. Pa što?! Kako te to ometa da živiš u svojoj hercegovačkoj vukojebini?

U Kini nasilno raseljavaju ljude da im zatru kulturu, jezik i podrijetlo, to ti je ok? Svijet je pun gluposti i nepravdi, ali tvoje živciranje oko toga neće riješiti ni jednu od tih gluposti.

Bolje nađi nešto što te fascinira i zanima, posveti se tome.

PREDSTAVIO IH REPER
Skandal zbog sotonskih tenisica koje sadrže ljudsku krv: Nike se ograđuje, a evo tko likuje!

U prodaji je i dalje ova limitirana serija tenisica od točno 666 komada, a otkriveno je i čija je krv u svim tim tenisicama...
Nakon što je prije par dana kontroverzni glazbenik Lil Nas X zgranuo svijet objavom kako baš danas, na samom početku Velikog tjedna, izlazi njegova pomno dizajnirana linija - đavoljih tenisica - naziva Satan Shoes nije trebalo dugo čekati da ova bizarna vijest postane skandal.

Naime, Lil Nas X čak je i dolio je ulje na vatru s ironičnom isprikom na YouTubeu. U videu koji je namjerno nazvao "Lil Nas X se ispričava zbog Satan Shoes", 21-godišnji glazbenik zapravo je obmanom pratitelja još jače promovirao tenisice koje na sebi imaju znak pentagrama, a u đonovima sadrže - ljudsku krv.

Počinje riječima: "OK, ljudi, vidim da svi pričate o sotonskim tenisicama, pa bih želio istupiti i reći...", a onda se kadar mijenja u njegov erotični ples đavlu u krilu iz njegovog spota za novi singl "Montero (Call Me By Your Name)", koji je također šokirao javnost upravo sotonističkom temom.

U svakom slučaju, njegova limitirana serija tenisica od točno 666 komada nastala je u suradnji s tvrtkom MSCHF, a osim pentagrama, na đonu koji sadrži ljudsku krv je i označen redak iz Biblije, 10:18, iz evanđelja po Luki koje aludira upravo na sotonu.

(...) U daljnjem odgovoru dodao je: "Svoje sam tinejdžerske godine proveo mrzeći sebe zbog sranja koje ste propovijedali da će mi se dogoditi jer sam gay. Zato se nadam da ste bijesni, ostanite bijesni, osjetite istu ljutnju koju nas učite da je osjećamo prema sebi".

Gdje su nestali Dunno, Ateist i Primarijus da nastavimo s temom?

Buenose kažu da ćeš u Hercegovini prije sresti crnca nego ateista.

Najveći proboj novih otkrića ostvaren dok se još koliko toliko držalo do vjere i tradicije, a sad više ne vide ni razliku muškarca i žene, najluđi su baš tamo gdje su najnapredniji i najobrazovaniji, oslobođeni okova tradicije i religije.

Whether the acts of the sensitive powers remain in the separated soul?

On the contrary, That which is common to soul and body cannot remain in the separated soul. Now all the operations of the sensitive powers are common to the soul and body: and this is evident from the fact that no sensitive power exercises an act except through a bodily organ. Therefore the separated soul will be deprived of the acts of the sensitive powers. Further, the Philosopher says (De Anima i, 4), that "when the body is corrupted, the soul neither remembers nor loves," and the same applies to all the acts of the sensitive powers. Therefore the separated soul does not exercise the act of any sensitive power.

Whether the separated soul can suffer from a bodily fire?

I answer that... But the corporeal fire is enabled as the instrument of the vengeance of Divine justice thus to detain a spirit; and thus it has a penal effect on it, by hindering it from fulfilling its own will, that is by hindering it from acting where it will and as it will.... and Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xxi, 10) that "just as, although the soul is spiritual and the body corporeal, man is so fashioned that the soul is united to the body as giving it life, and on account of this union conceives a great love for its body, so it is chained to the fire, as receiving punishment therefrom, and from this union conceives a loathing."

Whether in hell the damned are tormented by the sole punishment of fire?

Reply to Objection 2: It is because fire is most painful, through its abundance of active force, that the name of fire is given to any torment if it be intense.

Whether the worm of the damned is corporeal?

I answer that... Consequently the worm ascribed to the damned must be understood to be not of a corporeal but of a spiritual nature: and this is the remorse of conscience, which is called a worm because it originates from the corruption of sin, and torments the soul, as a corporeal worm born of corruption torments by gnawing.

Whether the weeping of the damned will be corporeal?

On the contrary... Therefore the weeping of the damned will not be corporeal.

Whether any sin incurs a debt of eternal punishment?

Reply to Objection 1: Punishment is proportionate to sin in point of severity, both in Divine and in human judgments. In no judgment, however, as Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xxi, 11) is it requisite for punishment to equal fault in point of duration. For the fact that adultery or murder is committed in a moment does not call for a momentary punishment: in fact they are punished sometimes by imprisonment or banishment for life---sometimes even by death; wherein account is not taken of the time occupied in killing, but rather of the expediency of removing the murderer from the fellowship of the living, so that this punishment, in its own way, represents the eternity of punishment inflicted by God. Now according to Gregory (Dial. iv, 44) it is just that he who has sinned against God in his own eternity should be punished in God's eternity. A man is said to have sinned in his own eternity, not only as regards continual sinning throughout his whole life, but also because, from the very fact that he fixes his end in sin, he has the will to sin, everlastingly. Wherefore Gregory says (Dial. iv, 44) that the "wicked would wish to live without end, that they might abide in their sins for ever."

Whether sin incurs a debt of punishment infinite in quantity?

Reply to Objection 3: Duration of punishment corresponds to duration of fault, not indeed as regards the act, but on the part of the stain, for as long as this remains, the debt of punishment remains. But punishment corresponds to fault in the point of severity. And a fault which is irreparable, is such that, of itself, it lasts for ever; wherefore it incurs an everlasting punishment.

Whether by Divine justice an eternal punishment is inflicted on sinners? [*Cf. FS, Q[87], AA[3],4]

I answer that… But the duration of punishment regards the disposition of the sinner: for sometimes a person who commits an offense in a city is rendered by his very offense worthy of being cut off entirely from the fellowship of the citizens, either by perpetual exile or even by death: whereas sometimes he is not rendered worthy of being cut off entirely from the fellowship of the citizens. wherefore in order that he may become a fitting member of the State, his punishment is prolonged or curtailed, according as is expedient for his amendment, so that he may live in the city in a becoming and peaceful manner. So too, according to Divine justice, sin renders a person worthy to be altogether cut off from the fellowship of God's city, and this is the effect of every sin committed against charity, which is the bond uniting this same city together. Consequently, for mortal sin which is contrary to charity a person is expelled for ever from the fellowship of the saints and condemned to everlasting punishment, because as Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xxi, 11), "as men are cut off from this perishable city by the penalty of the first death, so are they excluded from that imperishable city by the punishment of the second death." That the punishment inflicted by the earthly state is not deemed everlasting is accidental, either because man endures not for ever, or because the state itself comes to an end. Wherefore if man lived for ever, the punishment of exile or slavery, which is pronounced by human law, would remain in him for ever. On the other hand, as regards those who sin in such a way as not to deserve to be entirely cut off from the fellowship of the saints, such as those who sin venially, their punishment will be so much the shorter or longer according as they are more or less fit to be cleansed, through sin clinging to them more or less: this is observed in the punishments of this world and of purgatory according to Divine justice. We find also other reasons given by the saints why some are justly condemned to everlasting punishment for a temporal sin. One is because they sinned against an eternal good by despising eternal life. This is mentioned by Augustine (De Civ. Dei. xii, 12): "He is become worthy of eternal evil, who destroyed in himself a good which could be eternal." …

Nije bitno jesu li znanstvenici vjernici ili ne, nego je bitno tko je zaslužan za otkrića i kojom metodom se do njih došlo, znanstvenim metodama ili dogmama, a ideologija je druga stvar. Ti pričaš o ideologiji. Prava znanost ne poznaje ideologiju i ne bavi se ideološkim pitanjima.

Da još malo analiziramo onu tezu "Katolička Crkva tvrdi to i to". Da vidimo šta kaže Sveti Toma Akvinski.

Tu je meni glavni problem na osnovu čega on to tvrdi. Otkud mu ta saznanja i može li se provjeriti istinitost tih tvrdnji?

Ako ne može, onda stvarno ne vidim smisao ulaženja u takve dubine...

Za sve rečeno se slažem. Ali vjerujem ipak u naobrazbu, znanost i oslobođeno čovječanstvo.

Pre ove male sekte, Kristove, koju su Rimljani zloporabili za duhovno porobljavanje i podčinjavanje naroda, bilo je mizernih vjerskih ratova. Ljudi su više živjeli u skladu sa prirodom.

Pre ove male sekte, Kristove, koju su Rimljani zloporabili za duhovno porobljavanje i podčinjavanje naroda, bilo je mizernih vjerskih ratova. Ljudi su više živjeli u skladu sa prirodom.

Da, poznato je da su Rimljani proširili carstvo lijepim riječima.

Pričali smo o ukazanjima, izlječenjima, euharistijskim čudima, jezicima, stigmama, vizijama, mnogim čudesnim iskustvima itd.

Zašto zanemaruješ @Markanovo mišljenje o svim tim euharistijskim čudima, stigmama, Marijinim ukazanjima i sl.?

Kako to da njegov Isus nema nikakve veze s tim, a tebi je to krunski dokaz za tvojeg? Kako odrediti tko je u pravu?

Zašto zanemaruješ @Markanovo mišljenje o svim tim euharistijskim čudima, stigmama, Marijinim ukazanjima i sl.?

Kako to da njegov Isus nema nikakve veze s tim, a tebi je to krunski dokaz za tvojeg? Kako odrediti tko je u pravu?

Koja moja mišljenja? Kako Isus nema veze sa čudima, kad ih je On činio?
Ukazanja sv Marije su tzv privatna, pročitaj mišljenje Crkve.

Ne znam, nekako sam dosad dobio dojam da ti nisi impresioniran tim katoličkim čudesima i kultovima novijeg datuma. Možda sam se prevario.

Što se tiče "privatnosti" ukazanja, to je samo formalnost. Masi vjernika su ta ukazanja ključni razlog zašto vjeruju i vjera u kršćanstvo bi im bila prilično poljuljana kada bi im dokazao da privatno ukazanje zbog kojeg su povjerovali nije istinito.

Da, poznato je da su Rimljani proširili carstvo lijepim riječima.

Najveće čudo je promjena karaktera, tako piše u Bibliji.

Ne znam koliko su ljudi svjesni, glavni rat se vodi na duhovnom planu, i to piše u Bibliji.
Bog nije mađioničar da zabavlja ljude čudima, pogledaj samo čuda kojima su svjedočile stotine tisuće ljudi, npr Izraelci tijekom izlaska iz egipatskog ropstva, pa su opet brzo okrenuli ploču, Isus dizao ljude iz mrtvih, a farizeji jedva dočekaju da ga ubiju...
Plus, manipulacije i prevare druge strane, kako postoji Plan spasenja, tako postoji i plan uništenja.
Ljudi, teološki nepotkovani, lak su plijen sa takvim manipulacijama. Slušaju tzv autoritete, kao uostalom i u većini životnih aspekata. I onda se hrli u svetišta, duhovne obnove, karizmatici itd. Sve ok ako to znači promjenu sebe i osobnih loših navika. Ali biblijski koncept je drugačiji.
Zar je toliki problem proučiti kako je Isus živio, dajući nam jednostavan primjer?