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In 1881, the pronunciation of Arkansas with the final "s" being silent was made official by an act of the state legislature after a dispute arose between Arkansas's two U.S. senators as one favored the pronunciation as /ˈɑːrkənsɔː/ AR-kən-saw while the other favored /ɑːrˈkænzəs/ ar-KAN-zəs.[c]

In 2007, the state legislature passed a non-binding resolution declaring that the possessive form of the state's name is Arkansas's, which has been followed increasingly by the state government.[15]


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In 1881, the pronunciation of Arkansas with the final "s" being silent was made official by an act of the state legislature after a dispute arose between Arkansas's two U.S. senators as one favored the pronunciation as /ˈɑːrkənsɔː/ AR-kən-saw while the other favored /ɑːrˈkænzəs/ ar-KAN-zəs.[c]

In 2007, the state legislature passed a non-binding resolution declaring that the possessive form of the state's name is Arkansas's, which has been followed increasingly by the state government.[15]


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So the possessive form is pronounced "Arkensoz". Though at first I thought "Why the fuck did he post that, he said nothing new about the subject", you actually corrected me about the pronunciation of Arkansas, it's not "Arkanso", it's "Arkenso". Though it's really between those two, it is slightly more E than A, very slitghtly, but nevertheless, if I were on a quiz, I would go with E, but I wouldn't be that much wrong to go with A either.


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Elvis Presley ( teskoca samo za Jugoslavene :zubati ) Elvis Prezli
Tomb Raider Tum Rejd'r
Brewery Brueri
Draught (toceno [pivo]) Draut
Focus Fouk's
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Quinoa WTF is that!?
Amateur Am'ć'r (US English) Amat'r (British English)
Column Kol'm
Caucasus (Kavkaz) kok's's
Archimedes (Arhimed) Ark'midiz
Athens (Atena) Ath'nz (no other way to write mehko T)
Lloyd (ime) Lojd
Hegemony Hedžem'ni
Knell Nil
Timbre Timb'r

Though this is kind of fun, but do you really don't know these pronunciations, or are you just fucking with us?


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I just created an educational and fun quiz, why are you triggered? :zubati

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Draught goes more like draft.


Quinoa is a new "superfood", a nutritional scam for rich people in the West.

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I just created an educational and fun quiz, why are you triggered? :zubati

Why do you think i'm triggered? I said it was fun, just wanted to know if you didn't know or this is a quiz. Since it is, I'l let others answer it, your questions are way too easy. Oh, and by the way, what in Titos' name is Quinoa?


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 Naslov: Re: Improve your English
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Draught goes more like draft.


Quinoa is a new "superfood", a nutritional scam for rich people in the West.

No, drought is draut (suša), and draft is, well, draft (po Vuku), and it means promaja. I think I should be the one giving the questions at this point, your English is not up to par. But I won't, because that wouldn't be fun, and i'm way to lazy for that.


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Draught goes more like draft.


Quinoa is a new "superfood", a nutritional scam for rich people in the West.

No, draught is draut (suša), and draft is, well, draft (po Vuku), and it means promaja. I think I should be the one giving the questions at this point, yor English is not up to par. But I won't, because that wouldn't be fun, and i'm way to lazy for that.


Draught is British spelling of draft [beer].
Drought is suša.

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My mistake, I read drOught (suša), drAught is indeed draft, but in this case it means nacrt.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draught_beer

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Titos'


I know you know it, but.... Tito's

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Titos'


I know you know it, but.... Tito's

Titos' (possessive form), not to be confused with don't and similar shortened forms.

Tito's means Tito is.


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 Naslov: Re: Improve your English
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draught_beer

UK English- draught (promaja), draft (nacrt)
US English- draft (promaja and nacrt, depends on the context)

Had to check, thank you for the more challenging question.


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I know you know it, but.... Tito's

Titos' (possessive form), not to be confused with don't and similar shortened forms.

Tito's means Tito is.

I pondered about this, so I checked it, and you were actually right. Apostrophe in the possessive form goes last only when the word ends with "S", and only when it's in a plural form. So yeah, Tito's is both possessive form and shortened version of "Tito is", and I was being a smartass.


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Most people in the English speaking world wouldn’t bother placing the apostrophe after a word to donate ownership. For the most part it’s inferred in the sentence.


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Most people in the English speaking world wouldn’t bother placing the apostrophe after a word to donate ownership. For the most part it’s inferred in the sentence.

So you just add an S, and it's understandable from the context weither it means ownership or plural. I agree, you should even proclaim that grammatically correct, because it is completely clear from the context of the sentence what one meant by adding that S on the end of the word.


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Draught (toceno [pivo]) Draut


I didn't know for that. Its pronunciation is really Draut, not draft?

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Draught (toceno [pivo]) Draut


I didn't know for that. Its pronunciation is really Draut, not draft?

No. I misread it as drought, which is indeed pronounced as draut (suša). Draught, on the other hand, is pronounced draft, in British English (means promaja), and draft (spelled like that) is also pronounced draft, but in this case, it means nacrt, also in British English. In colonial English, in US and Canada, both words are spelled as draft, and weither it means promaja or nacrt, depends on the context.

By the way, instead of "I didn't know for that", you should have written "I didn't know that".


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Zanimljiva je istost suglasnika rijeci trn u hrvatskom i engleskom:

trn - thorn

Tu rijec ocito nismo uzeli iz engleskog, a ne vjerujem niti da je latinski poveznica (mi sigurno to nismo uzeli iz latinskog), vjerojatno je u pitanju prastara indoeuropska veza jer se i na Sanskrtu grm/trnjak kaze trnaka.

Ima jos dosta takvih rijeci koje su u skoro svim europskim jezicima iste i nije rijec o "latinskim" , "grckim" rijecima niti novijim posudjenicama... nos, voda, mijeko, sunce, put, brat, kuhati, neki brojevi itd.

Ali broj slicnih rijeci je puno veci nego sto izgleda, skoro pola rijeci se mogu povezati. Recimo rijec prdi (fart) lingvisti takodjer kazu da se isto kaze na slavenskom i engleskom... s tim da je engleski jezik dozivio promjene glasova p -->f , d-->t , k->h , ... i da je protoindoeuropska rijec vjerojetno perd. Na slican nacin je kuca - casa - house posvuda ista.

Jos jedna zanimljiva indoeuropska paralela:
Hinduisti su vjerovali u mocni entitet koji se u najstarijim Vedama zove: dyaus - pitar
Najstariji grcki naziv za Zeusa: Zeu - pater
Rimski naziv za vrhovno bozanstvo: Ju - piter

Na protoindoeuropskom bi prijevod znacio "nebeski otac" (sky father). Indijski lingvisti (indijski nacionalisti?) tvrde da je teorija o protoindoeuropskom jeziku koji je nastao negdje oko juzne Rusije ili Anadolije konstrukt europskih lingvista i da je eurocentricna, tvrde da PIE jezik uopce nije postojao kao neki posebni stari jezik i da je PIE=Sanskrt, odnosno da su svi ti jezici nastali iz Sanskrta. Zapravo, postoji mala sansa da su u pravu, ali najvjerojatnije nisu.

Uglavnom, relevantna poanta za ovu temu je da postoji konekcija izmedju puno vise engleskih i hrvatskih rijeci nego sto izgleda.

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What would bi the best phrase in English for:
Zaostajati (država zaostaje u razvoju za nekom drugom).

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What would bi the best phrase in English for:
Zaostajati (država zaostaje u razvoju za nekom drugom).


Možda lagging behind?


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What would bi the best phrase in English for:
Zaostajati (država zaostaje u razvoju za nekom drugom).


fall behind


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Meni zvuci (ne znaci da sam upravu) :

Fall behind = zaostati (svrseni oblik)
Lagging behind = zaostajati (nesvršeni)

Je li itko još “čuje” , ili barem umišlja, ikakvu suptilnu razliku ?

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